Rick Ross x Chrisette Michele “Mafia Music Pt. 2″ (Ross is a problem)

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Say what you want about Rick Ross, but dude is putting out some of the best work and videos in hip hop right now, period. I can't even hate on dude, no matter how fake he is. His work is top quality. He's crafting this image that is just untouchable right now.
 
lmao at the end, this dude lives out his child hood dream of being a mafia boss in his music... like the kid in school who always plays a specific main role in his own fantasy world

I bet he gets down like that with his crew as well:

"antonio..." "ehh my name is mike" "antonio listen, you've disappointed me, are you not trusting in our friendship?" "ehh I'm just the engineer here.."
 
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lmao at the end, this dude lives out his child hood dream of being a mafia boss in his music... like the kid in school who always plays a specific main role in his own fantasy world

I bet he gets down like that with his crew as well:

"antonio..." "ehh my name is mike" "antonio listen, you've disappointed me, are you not trusting in our friendship?" "ehh I'm just the engineer here.."

I dig this song ... but I had to lol when i read that
 
I would be pissed as hell if i was C Murder and u got me in the same line up as a bunch of old dead known gangsters minus Larry Hoover and i got an appeal pending
 
Rick Ross is not a problem.


Am I the only one whose noticed a certain Biggie vibe in his delivery? It's very faint, but its there.
 
I would be pissed as hell if i was C Murder and u got me in the same line up as a bunch of old dead known gangsters minus Larry Hoover and i got an appeal pending


LOL I was thinkin the same thing. He's not even in their bracket to be honest. But when it comes to the music, Ross is the truth. The Olympicks killed it as usual too. Their like the J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League JV Squad, lol.


Rick Ross is not a problem.


Am I the only one whose noticed a certain Biggie vibe in his delivery? It's very faint, but its there.

He's heavily influenced by Biggie.
 
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Chrisete Michelle is sexy as hell.

With that out the way...this is a producer forum. People up here tend to look deeper into things. I've never commented on Ross's music, it's actually good. But the audience it once targeted no longer beleive in him, all he has left is fans of hot beats and a halfway decent rapper over the top of them. Same thing 2 Pistols had.

Good to see him trying so hard, but as long as he continues to attempt to make himself look like some type of kingpin, he will continue digging his grave. No one's buying it, and his PR should be fired. If "All the way Turned Up" or "How Low Can You Go" were his songs, even "5 Star Chick" he'd still have a chance. I hope he get's it together.
 
i'm just wondering how long can he keep this up financially?
 
^^^Somebody sees things clearly, lol.

Just cause you puttin out stuff don't mean you generating profit. That song with him and Fab may do something though.
 
Lol Ross' whole image is contradictory..

Mafia bosses wouldn't make videos and publicise their activities - EVER.

But if you take him less seriously and think of the songs like a musical, black, modern, less tasteful version of a Scorcese film they're cool.

I dig the beats he picks. His actual music is always on point.

Also, Maybach must be loving the exposure that Ross generates for them lol - interesting illustration of the difference between being rich and being wealthy.
 
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Musically, i like Ross but i dont take the things he says to heart these rappers nowadays are actually actors.

I really don't like Rick Ross or 50 as people but their music is entertaining. Most of what they say is completely a lie, I don't even think i need to say this to most guys on here as yall should know.

But for real his scarface mafia act must be hurting his pocket.
 
Lol Ross' whole image is contradictory..

Mafia bosses wouldn't make videos and publicise their activities - EVER.

But if you take him less seriously and think of the songs like a musical, black, modern, less tasteful version of a Scorcese film they're cool.

I dig the beats he picks. His actual music is always on point.

Also, Maybach must be loving the exposure that Ross generates for them lol - interesting illustration of the difference between being rich and being wealthy.

Who listens to a Ross song and goes and buys a car that Ross has to lease, make payments on with extended warranties, and rent for vids? lol. They get no "exposure" from him except to kids who most likely will never even see one on a showroom floor.

You still just "rich" with a Maybach unless you bought it cash flat out.
 
Who listens to a Ross song and goes and buys a car that Ross has to lease, make payments on with extended warranties, and rent for vids? lol. They get no "exposure" from him except to kids who most likely will never even see one on a showroom floor.

You still just "rich" with a Maybach unless you bought it cash flat out.

What I mean is that Ross is the one buying the cars and bragging about having them - the guy who's the majority shareholder of Maybach (or guys) are the ones who are making the REAL money selling it to all these rappers cause they signed a backdoor deal (no homo) with Jay-Z to namedrop it in a few verses.

The flow on effect is still visible in all these songs and videos - for black musicians a Maybach is the new "it" thing and the people at Maybach are milking it as much as they can. The more it gets mentioned in a track, the more these other rappers (especially new and naive ones with no money sense) buy the idea that they need one to say they "made it" lol.

Rappers = Just like kids who got a big wad of cash for Christmas, cept this time they gotta pay that **** back.

People behind Maybach = Wealthy fellas who knew exactly how to tap into the naive and consumerist minds of rappers and other musicians.

I swear that one day rap music will just become a new form of advertising.
 
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What I mean is that Ross is the one buying the cars and bragging about having them - the guy who's the majority shareholder of Maybach (or guys) are the ones who are making the REAL money selling it to all these rappers cause they signed a backdoor deal (no homo) with Jay-Z to namedrop it in a few verses.

The flow on effect is still visible in all these songs and videos - for black musicians a Maybach is the new "it" thing and the people at Maybach are milking it as much as they can. The more it gets mentioned in a track, the more these other rappers (especially new and naive ones with no money sense) buy the idea that they need one to say they "made it" lol.

Rappers = Just like kids who got a big wad of cash for Christmas, cept this time they gotta pay that **** back.

People behind Maybach = Wealthy fellas who knew exactly how to tap into the naive and consumerist minds of rappers and other musicians.

That will make sense the day any rapperother than the Wayne's, Baby's, Diddys, Jays, ect. actually pays one off before his checks run out and his is repo'd.

I'm amazed by what people think they see behind all the bullsh*t they show you as reality. Can't afford real MGM Jackets and Jewelry(I'll leave the Louie Glasses to debate), but he's the spokesperson for Maybach?

C'mon, son.

I always sound anti-Ross in these debates, just amazing the things he convinces you are reality even when you can see so much around him is fabricated.

Soulja Boy has sold more records than Ross if my math ain't off, at least damn near the same, plus he got single/ringtone money. I'm sure his accountant would slap the sh*t out of him for buying a Maybach. He's smart enough to stick with american made Lambos, let's put some perspective to this.
 
That will make sense the day any rapperother than the Wayne's, Baby's, Diddys, Jays, ect. actually pays one off before his checks run out and his is repo'd.

I'm amazed by what people think they see behind all the bullsh*t they show you as reality. Can't afford real MGM Jackets and Jewelry(I'll leave the Louie Glasses to debate), but he's the spokesperson for Maybach?

C'mon, son.

I always sound anti-Ross in these debates, just amazing the things he convinces you are reality even when you can see so much around him is fabricated.

Soulja Boy has sold more records than Ross if my math ain't off, at least damn near the same, plus he got single/ringtone money. I'm sure his accountant would slap the sh*t out of him for buying a Maybach. He's smart enough to stick with american made Lambos, let's put some perspective to this.

Of course I know he don't pay that **** in cash - you think I'm a retard? Lol

Either way though, Maybach is still seeing money from it - I don't know how the supply chain works for ordering one but if it goes through a dealer they have to buy the Maybach first from the company and if its going through Maybach directly, well, they're seeing the lease income directly too.

My overarching point is that these rappers are just getting played by the big boys of the corporate world. Talking about getting money when you namedrop a million different brands in one song, thereby putting money in someone else's pocket that you ain't gonna see anything out of.

Here's something that's kinda backwards though - people thinking that leasing is a bad thing. I dunno bout the tax laws in the States but I majored in accounting here and everyone knows that leases are an expense that you can use to reduce your overall tax bill. Buying a car outright is capital expenditure so you can't take any of that **** off your taxable income to reduce the tax you gotta pay.

So long as the amount extra your paying for leasing as opposed to buying < the amount you'll save in taxes, its actually smarter (from both a tax and cash flow perspective) to lease a car than to buy it, especially considering the fact that its depreciable.

I guess the idea is that some people are so filthy rich they don't worry bout that ****, but a good businessman should always be trying to get their $ up in as many ways as possible in my opinion.

Note: There is a difference between FINANCING A PURCHASE and LEASING a vehicle.
 
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Loved the song, don't believe a word of it, but loved the imagery.
The video was great too except for when the crane shows up in the windshield of the car rolling in.
 
Of course I know he don't pay that **** in cash - you think I'm a retard? Lol

Either way though, Maybach is still seeing money from it - I don't know how the supply chain works for ordering one but if it goes through a dealer they have to buy the Maybach first from the company and if its going through Maybach directly, well, they're seeing the lease income directly too.

My overarching point is that these rappers are just getting played by the big boys of the corporate world. Talking about getting money when you namedrop a million different brands in one song, thereby putting money in someone else's pocket that you ain't gonna see anything out of.

Here's something that's kinda backwards though - people thinking that leasing is a bad thing. I dunno bout the tax laws in the States but I majored in accounting here and everyone knows that leases are an expense that you can use to reduce your overall tax bill. Buying a car outright is capital expenditure so you can't take any of that **** off your taxable income to reduce the tax you gotta pay.

So long as the amount extra your paying for leasing as opposed to buying < the amount you'll save in taxes, its actually smarter (from both a tax and cash flow perspective) to lease a car than to buy it, especially considering the fact that its depreciable.

I guess the idea is that some people are so filthy rich they don't worry bout that ****, but a good businessman should always be trying to get their $ up in as many ways as possible in my opinion.

Note: There is a difference between FINANCING A PURCHASE and LEASING a vehicle.
Y'all dudes up here know everything without knowing anything. There's plenty of "Filty Rich Americans" yet, you relate that to a rapper who makes what a surgeon makes annually for 5 good years and then falls off? Maybach ain't making money off no damn rappers. Especially one who doesn't actually "own" one but shouts them out until the day he can't make the payment.

NBA Players, yeah, but not as much as they make off rich kids in Europe who order 3 at a time. Rich guys here who go thru mid life crisis and show up with one paid for cash that the wife insists they take back.

Just because hood dudes only know them from Jay and Ross mentioning and showing them off, don't mean they even thinking about those dudes business.

And if you couldn't identify with my seperation of leases, rentals, and purchases with monthly payments, you must've halfway skimmed my last posts. You own NONE OF THE ABOVE. 2 come with the option of possibly owning one day. A company like Maybach isn't "getting it's money" from any of the three. That like saying Dre and Timbaland get's their money from guys leasing their beats. Why when they can sell one for a fortune would they care about montly payments that add up to what owner's pay in insurance and maintenance.

Only riff raff are sad enough to make payments, lease, or rent cars that are made to be bought on a whim by the true wealthy. As for "these rappers" you keep mentioning. If you haven't cleared more than a few mill, you're not gonna get any bank to cover a half million dollar payment plan on a car when "musician" is your job title. No one signs, goes gets a Maybach and get's trapped by the label. They do that off 740 Beemers and 600 CLKs. No one who can't afford to pay cash in the entertainment world owns these type cars unless they're in someone else's name...and then...can they say they "own" them?

Maybach get's real money. The 6-10 Rappers who may actually own one are small potatoes to the company. They aren't impressed by rap money. Neither is Ferarri, Lotus, Aston Martin, Bugatti, even Bentley.

We just live in a world where some can only relate to these things when they see a rapper in one(on a vid shoot, cause most of your favorite rappers can't afford/have the credit to actually take one home).

But I get what you were trying to say. It's just flat out wrong. Standing in front of something every vid you do and shouting it out while the monthly payment eats at your pocket is not gonna influence or inspire the next guy to do the same when the audience your reach can't afford to fix the transmisson on their civic.

It's just showing them sh*t they know nothing about and never will. Don't forget how much closer he is financially to us than he is to the guys he pretends to be as rich as. I know dudes with h2s and SL500s who's family is taken care of, those Maybachs must be why his kids getting raised by call girls and women with no vehicle whatsoever? "Getting money"...right. When I came back to VA, I gave a car away, got here and copped another one, this dude can't give his kid's moms a means of to and from? He could give her the 57 and keep the 62, right? :cheers:

 
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