Reggaeton Vs Dance Hall Whats Better

[ednegga]

I think this thread needs to be flush out, honestly. First off, if you want to promote your music to other people, you don't do that by comparising and trying to knock somebody's music. That's how you get people hating on your music and showing no interest in it the more. You don't win people by Confronting them this way. That " in your face " approach doesn't work anymore, espacially now that there are so many options for people to make their choices. If the music is good and speaks for itself, people will like it. Approaching it the way you guys are doing is actually going to turn people away from it.

I love Dance Hall and Reggae to my heart and even though I don't understand Reggaeton, it doesn't mean I don't like it too. The first time I heard Noreaga's " Oye me Canto " was my first experience. I thought it was something different for a change. For a relatively new genre, it needs some time to grow and expand and you should know that. You can't compare it to an established genre like Dancehall and Reggae. Hip hop even borrowed some elements from Reggae. The DJ wilding out on the Mic, in Reggae, that Person is not called a DJ but the Soundman. Hip hop DJs were mostly concerned with Mixing, Cutting and Scratching. Also if you know a lot about Hip hop and the Pioneers, one of the founding fathers goes by the name of DJ Kool Herc. Found out about him and his backgrounds. You will understand my point better if you do.

I don't wanna be the guy to knock somebody's music just because I don't understand what they are saying. If you understood the words, then you will be able to judge how good or bad it is. Reggae Music has been around for years B. If you just heard it and don't understand, don't boycott it or try to knock it. Reggaeton is an up and coming genre and will need sometime to grow and expand. Until then we will have to wait and see. You can't compare it to Dancehall because it just won't work, Period. I like some Reggaeton music for various reasons but the way and manner you guys are going on about it here is a waste of time. That will not make me like it more than I already do, may be less if not entirely. That will turn a lot of potential funs of Reggaeton against it because of you. For starters, you guys are posting these Reggaeton messages in the Wrong Forums, a forum dedicated to Dancehall / Reggae. If I'm mistaken, look at the title of the forum you are in. I posted my thread about Reggae riddims and some idiot comes in taking about Reggaeton. Put yourself in my shoes, you created a thread about Reggaeton and somebody comes in talking about Dancehall. That is a big turn off. As Selector Waxx mentioned, you guys are going about this the wrong way and turning people off about your music. You are doing more harm than good this way. Good music is something that nobody can deny. When you hear it, it grows on you and makes you wanna dance. Sometimes, you don't even have to understand it. People only hate it when you try to jam it down their throat. I could go on and on but I want to end it here. That is my advice, take it or leave it. Don't try to promote yourself by knocking somebody. It will backfire on you. What goes around comes around. Remember that. When you think you are cheating somebody, you are cheating yourself. I've seen too many of it, can't fool me. You fool yourself.

 

[selector waxx]

sorry bro but you must be stupid. Hispanic is not a race. Why the **** on my SAT'S WHEN IT SAYS PICK YOUR RACE IT SAYS WHITE BLACK HISPANIC ORENTAL OTHER. WTF IS HISPANIC DOING THERE IF THATS NOT A RACE. WHY ON DRIVERS LICENCES SAY H WHY AM I CLASSIFIED HISPANIC IF I AM NOT HISPANIC I GREW UP AND WAS TOLD I WAS HISPANIC DID THEY LIE?

what i say is that you are mixing up 2 different things, a race is an etnic/biological thing. Hispanics are a name for a culture where most ppl are from mixed etnic background wich may differ enormous. Hispanics are ppl from a hispanic culture.

So they don't lie, they just mix up things that doens't belong toghetter. it's the same like saying i'm from the european race, or my ex is from a roma (=gypsy) race (wer're both white indogermans actually)

 

[Dj Maranello]

I think this thread needs to be flush out, honestly. First off, if you want to promote your music to other people, you don't do that by comparising and trying to knock somebody's music. That's how you get people hating on your music and showing no interest in it the more. You don't win people by Confronting them this way. That " in your face " approach doesn't work anymore, espacially now that there are so many options for people to make their choices. If the music is good and speaks for itself, people will like it. Approaching it the way you guys are doing is actually going to turn people away from it.

I love Dance Hall and Reggae to my heart and even though I don't understand Reggaeton, it doesn't mean I don't like it too. The first time I heard Noreaga's " Oye me Canto " was my first experience. I thought it was something different for a change. For a relatively new genre, it needs some time to grow and expand and you should know that. You can't compare it to an established genre like Dancehall and Reggae. Hip hop even borrowed some elements from Reggae. The DJ wilding out on the Mic, in Reggae, that Person is not called a DJ but the Soundman. Hip hop DJs were mostly concerned with Mixing, Cutting and Scratching. Also if you know a lot about Hip hop and the Pioneers, one of the founding fathers goes by the name of DJ Kool Herc. Found out about him and his backgrounds. You will understand my point better if you do.

I don't wanna be the guy to knock somebody's music just because I don't understand what they are saying. If you understood the words, then you will be able to judge how good or bad it is. Reggae Music has been around for years B. If you just heard it and don't understand, don't boycott it or try to knock it. Reggaeton is an up and coming genre and will need sometime to grow and expand. Until then we will have to wait and see. You can't compare it to Dancehall because it just won't work, Period. I like some Reggaeton music for various reasons but the way and manner you guys are going on about it here is a waste of time. That will not make me like it more than I already do, may be less if not entirely. That will turn a lot of potential funs of Reggaeton against it because of you. For starters, you guys are posting these Reggaeton messages in the Wrong Forums, a forum dedicated to Dancehall / Reggae. If I'm mistaken, look at the title of the forum you are in. I posted my thread about Reggae riddims and some idiot comes in taking about Reggaeton. Put yourself in my shoes, you created a thread about Reggaeton and somebody comes in talking about Dancehall. That is a big turn off. As Selector Waxx mentioned, you guys are going about this the wrong way and turning people off about your music. You are doing more harm than good this way. Good music is something that nobody can deny. When you hear it, it grows on you and makes you wanna dance. Sometimes, you don't even have to understand it. People only hate it when you try to jam it down their throat. I could go on and on but I want to end it here. That is my advice, take it or leave it. Don't try to promote yourself by knocking somebody. It will backfire on you. What goes around comes around. Remember that. When you think you are cheating somebody, you are cheating yourself. I've seen too many of it, can't fool me. You fool yourself.

real talk

what i say is that you are mixing up 2 different things, a race is an etnic/biological thing. Hispanics are a name for a culture where most ppl are from mixed etnic background wich may differ enormous. Hispanics are ppl from a hispanic culture.

So they don't lie, they just mix up things that doens't belong toghetter. it's the same like saying i'm from the european race, or my ex is from a roma (=gypsy) race (wer're both white indogermans actually)

this is real talk too, if u do research u will find out, that hispanic is just a classification for people of a culture, because the us government realized, that not all the people of the hispanic culture look the same, many look white or black for example, so they came up with a name to classify them all, so u don't even hafta be latino to classify as hispanic, if ur into the culture, u will be classified as hispanic. but i also now that not everyone likes to be called latino, so many use hispanic, so maybe hispanic is the best classification, but like that, sum blacks don't like to be called african american, cuz its a us government classification

 

[DjRicoKiNg]

what i say is that you are mixing up 2 different things, a race is an etnic/biological thing. Hispanics are a name for a culture where most ppl are from mixed etnic background wich may differ enormous. Hispanics are ppl from a hispanic culture.

So they don't lie, they just mix up things that doens't belong toghetter. it's the same like saying i'm from the european race, or my ex is from a roma (=gypsy) race (wer're both white indogermans actually)

okie dokie mala mia

 

[djnelrock]

Is this some kind of a joke. Without Dancehall there would be no Reggaeton. Why the hell is it called Reggaeton when there are no elements of reggae in it. Reggae and Dancehall are two different genres, jack Dancehall beats and make it your own and boom you have a new genre. What a joke. The Skatalites blended elements of Ska and latin music ages ago when these reggaeton boys were not born yet. Should that be called Reggaeton too? lets see I wil jack jack hip hip I will blend it with dancehall and death metal. I will call it Rapton. I will also not give credit to the conutry and the people that created hip hop, sure you can see where I am going with this. Do your self a favor and pick up "Riddim Driven: Sleng Teng Extravaganza" I am sure this question wont even cross your minds again. Please I beg you also, do not jack the sleng teng riddim it is better is its pure uncontaminated form. I do not want to hear some reggaeton version of it.

I HATE REGGAETON!!!

Input from the madd rapper...^^^^^

 

[ednegga]

I was in a store today shopping for Christmas and I couldn't help but notice that all the Reggaeton songs they were playing had beats similar to several Dancehall songs. Particularly, Murder she wrote by Chaka Demus and Pliers and The Water Bam Bam song, the old riddim which came out in the early 90's, probably 1991. I have the whole Riddim on Vinyl and I will look for it. I don't think it's legal else I would have recorded it and posted it here for everyone to hear. Only thing was the Reggaeton beat had a slower tempo. Am I the only one noticing this? Not that I love Dancehall to my heart because I do like Reggaeton too but I think Credit should be awarded where due. Obviously, it is true that Reggaeton borrowed several elements from Dancehall Reggae. There is nothing wrong with it but they should give the right credit otherwise, they are plagarising and musically, it is wrong. It's like sampling somebody's song without giving it credit and clearing the sample. To me, taking somebody's musical ideal and not giving it the credit it deserve does not make you creative and credible but rather a copy cat and you won't last long. I'm speaking from several years of experience as a Veteran DJ and Music Producer. I'm not knocking anybody's music, just my thoughts, take it how it suits you best.

 

[DOMINCANBOI]

sorry bro but you must be stupid. Hispanic is not a race. Why the **** on my SAT'S WHEN IT SAYS PICK YOUR RACE IT SAYS WHITE BLACK HISPANIC ORENTAL OTHER. WTF IS HISPANIC DOING THERE IF THATS NOT A RACE. WHY ON DRIVERS LICENCES SAY H WHY AM I CLASSIFIED HISPANIC IF I AM NOT HISPANIC I GREW UP AND WAS TOLD I WAS HISPANIC DID THEY LIE?

BECAUSE ITS THE APPLICATIONS ARE STUPID PEEP GAME, roberto clemente is black, the people who created afro-cuban music are black just like black people of american descnet are what?=black

but if hispanic is a race then so be it, oh yeah there are amerindians in central america left still with no trace of spanish but yet again your a race? i guess!

I was in a store today shopping for Christmas and I couldn't help but notice that all the Reggaeton songs they were playing had beats similar to several Dancehall songs. Particularly, Murder she wrote by Chaka Demus and Pliers and The Water Bam Bam song, the old riddim which came out in the early 90's, probably 1991. I have the whole Riddim on Vinyl and I will look for it. I don't think it's legal else I would have recorded it and posted it here for everyone to hear. Only thing was the Reggaeton beat had a slower tempo. Am I the only one noticing this? .

i have heard this as well but to them its just a reggaeton beat! listen to track->

3. Mami Que Tu Quieres - Aldo (reggaeton anthems)
http://www.amazon.com/Reggaeton-Clu...f=sr_1_12/103-9236710-6016609?ie=UTF8&s=music

ok for one i see no flag i see a square with an x in it, so having a name like DOMINICAN BOI might make me think that your hispanic (you know form the dominican republic) and if u listen to most of vico c music you will not hear dembow in most of his songs and he is one of the pioneers of reggaeton.but i guess i cant try to make a point since you appear to be all knowing and o yea IM SORRY TO ALL "HISPANICS" OUT THERE BUT THE ALL MIGHTY DOMINICANBOI HAS DELCARED THAT WE ARE NOT AN ACTUAL RACE. and this is my last post in any topic like this im sick of dealing with clowns like you that are living in the past

vico c is a pioneer of spanish rap not spanish reggae cause thats how underground music started off of str8 jamaican dancehall riddims. about you not seeing the flag maybe its your computer settings its the flag of dominica and by me having the name boi, bwoy behind it should raise a red flag.

about living in the past what about it? race, ethnicity,nationality, culture will always be apart of life and is the future of it hence why every corner of the world has ethnic and racial groups though different from U.S.A names but seperation exist especially in latin america amogst the self identified negroes(africans) and those who are not!

 

[DjRicoKiNg]

to dominico

yo dominico. settle down take it like it is Reggaeton Better. Jaja

 

[Rebelutionary]

Input from the madd rapper...^^^^^

How long did it take you to think of that response it show your true intelligence.

 

[DjRicoKiNg]

How long did it take you to think of that response it show your true intelligence.

Took a while actually. Well i love my genre and ya'll love ya'll genre. What can we do get blue in the face or colab with a dance hall producer and make a killa beat. Anyone down with Colabing hit me up. Grax

 

[DOMINCANBOI]

real talk
sum blacks don't like to be called african american, cuz its a us government classification

before i move on! the term african american was made by american blacks, some reject it for these reasons here

-they are stupid, senseless, and a small portion feel shamed!
-it makes them less american because of the hyphen
-they did not immigrate from africa<_- this makes sense but they are still african not counting the people with one white parent or one black!

pros- i have much knowledge about african american culture and history and a few west indians are brothers with african american culture cause of the triangle of influences each had on each others cultures from slavery(Bajan africans brought to south carolina) to NOW!

yo dominico. settle down take it like it is Reggaeton Better. Jaja

its all good man, **** im str8 listening to some JUNKO!

 

[DjRicoKiNg]

who is junko i am straight listen to WISIN Y YENDELL HECTOR EL FATHER and many more bro.

 

[DOMINCANBOI]

who is junko i am straight listen to WISIN Y YENDELL HECTOR EL FATHER and many more bro.

JUNKO IS CARIBBEAN MUSIC,IT can ne often be heard in the english caribbean particularily bahmmas and dominica besides soca

 

[p_louis]

This discussion is straight ridiculous. Cats out here wearing they musical genres as if it has something to do with they think they "race" is. Salsa is a musical form that came out of latins(overwhelmingly of african descent) in places like NYC listening to jazz, rock and soul. Jelly Roll Morton, a creole of african descent in New Orleans who was one of the cats who created some of the piano riffs for early jazz explained how he got some of his ideas from danza, a spanish speaking caribbean musical form of the time. Dominican merengue is an offshoot of its Haitian namesake. Puerto Rican Plena, a traditional music on the island, is said to have come from migrants from the English Speaking Carribbean, and it do sound like a close cousin to soca. The early Hip Hop cats were taking beats not just from Soul and Funk, but from (whiteified) rock and roll. Ya'll just can talk about this or that genre from this or that peoples being better, or even be on some that beat is stolen ****. Leave all that alone...There is something that links all of this though, and that is that people of african descent throughout the americas, regardless of the language they speak, got they hands in all of it. That, at the end of the day, means that regardless of whether or not we speak the same language, we often, but not always, end up feeling each others music. And yes even copying or sampling it as well.

 

[selector waxx]

This discussion is straight ridiculous. Cats out here wearing they musical genres as if it has something to do with they think they "race" is. Salsa is a musical form that came out of latins(overwhelmingly of african descent) in places like NYC listening to jazz, rock and soul. Jelly Roll Morton, a creole of african descent in New Orleans who was one of the cats who created some of the piano riffs for early jazz explained how he got some of his ideas from danza, a spanish speaking caribbean musical form of the time. Dominican merengue is an offshoot of its Haitian namesake. Puerto Rican Plena, a traditional music on the island, is said to have come from migrants from the English Speaking Carribbean, and it do sound like a close cousin to soca. The early Hip Hop cats were taking beats not just from Soul and Funk, but from (whiteified) rock and roll. Ya'll just can talk about this or that genre from this or that peoples being better, or even be on some that beat is stolen ****. Leave all that alone...There is something that links all of this though, and that is that people of african descent throughout the americas, regardless of the language they speak, got they hands in all of it. That, at the end of the day, means that regardless of whether or not we speak the same language, we often, but not always, end up feeling each others music. And yes even copying or sampling it as well.

wise words, and next to that (for those who speak french): des gouts et des couleurs, on ne discutend pas...)





































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