Recording Schools Audio Engineering Programs

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I'm considering attending Full Sail in 2011. I went to the site and I just fell in love with it. I also looked at LA School of Recording Arts.

Now, Full Sail IS EXPENSIVE but it SEEMS like its really THOROUGH in all aspects of ENGINEERING (which i like) like I could learn how to set up a church for like mics and stuff or do engineering for someones performance lol to help them lip sync on some parts. Movie/video gaming etc...
BUT THEN AGAIN I kinda liked LA SRA cuz I seen DarkChild spoke there...Its in a GREAT location...its cheaper...and I think they may have better equipment...its shorter (the program) but i thought it was only about studio stuff.
THEN someone told me about this Conservatory for Recording Arts or some $#!%. I seen that it was in Arizona and I was like UHT! NO! lol....

HELP ME OUT PLEASE:
Has anyone been or know someone that's been to one of these schools?
Which ones better?
Are my assumptions about them precise or justifiable?
Which one should I attend if I wanna do this....and what one should i attend if i wanna do that?
Are there any other schools?
Any info that you might know or any thoughts to consider before I choose will help...I'm really leaning toward full sail tho.

Thanks!
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I am considering attending either la recording school or conservatory of recording arts and sciences(in Tempe) in the fall. I have visited IPR(in Minneapolis) MI(in L.A.), la recording school, and i'm going to check out CRAS in june. i was extremely impressed with la recording school! IPR was great as well, but i'm not big on the location(im on the west coast and im not huge on the midwest.) I've talked to a number of people that went to full sail and most people said that they were disappointed in their education. they said that the price wasn't worth it and that the school largely relied on their reputation rather than on focusing on education. Based on the schools i've visited so far, i would strongly recommend la recording school, but ipr seems really good too if the location works for you.

edit: what's wrong with arizona, just curious? i've heard that a lot of good audio engineers are in/come out of arizona
 
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I was supposed to go to IADT, but I don't have much credit my parents have BAD credit, and we couldn't get approved for any loans, so I couldn't go.

So I hope your parents (or other family) are either well off or at least have decent credit. Private schools are exspensivèbut you probably know that.

IADT is another school you should look at though, I liked their program best, after reading fullsail's I was kind of overwhelmed. I mean its the same amount of materiaal, but fullsail's program is accelerated, you would have to take, day, night, weekend, and online courses. They told me that I would have to rely entirely off of student loans, because I wouldn't be able to work. And that's what the college said.
 
WonLuv said:
I've talked to a number of people that went to full sail and most people said that they were disappointed in their education. they said that the price wasn't worth it and that the school largely relied on their reputation rather than on focusing on education.
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I dont know...nothings wrong with AZ I just dont know about living there. But I guess if I think its boring I'll be able to focus more. But THANKS this was really helpful considering that you've visited these places. I just want to know what all the acronyms were for lol...I dont really know the schools right of hand IBR? was it? ?? Uhmm..yah i hear that people ARE disappionted with full sail....ion know why...whatever tho. Thanks. (i had something else to say but caint member what you typed...brb
 
The reason I think people are disappointed with Full Sail was because they thought it would be super easy to learn this stuff (It's not, it is a lot of math and science along with having a natural ear for it) and it would get them in the door automatically (it doesn't, you still need to network and meet with people and can't just be a studio rat all the time).

It's the reason I went the internship route instead. I learned a lot doing that and I can still go to the studio anytime I want to learn how to do something or use the equipment if needed.

Also, I didn't spend $40K in high interest loans.
 
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WonLuv said:
edit: what's wrong with arizona, just curious? i've heard that a lot of good audio engineers are in/come out of arizona
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oh yah
Yah what is IPR and MI
what did you like about LA?

ThaNinjaMonkey88 said:
The reason I think people are disappointed with Full Sail was because they thought it would be super easy to learn this stuff (It's not, it is a lot of math and science along with having a natural ear for it) and it would get them in the door automatically (it doesn't, you still need to network and meet with people and can't just be a studio rat all the time).
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So do you think that I would be content with a Full Sail edu. IF I learn it right. I mean if i actually understand. Is it worth it if you catch on?.

MuSickJunKeyz said:
have you heard of SAE?
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SAE i think someone told me to go there once upon a time...im bouta look it up. what is it?
 
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sae and berklee are imo the top tier schools for audio...i did all the research back when i thought i was going to go
 
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sae and berklee are imo the top tier schools for audio...i did all the research back when i thought i was going to go
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IPR, SAE, and Berklee are the good ones..but its also what you make...The Recording Workshop in Ohio is good and it's only a couple of weeks and very hands on. It cost way less than the others. SAE accepets financial aid. But its also what you make it...and how you learn because I learn better doing it myself rather than someone else teaching me instead of letting my practice it......SAE gives you the equipment but the cost of it is included in the tuition
 
xtrordinare said:
sae and berklee are imo the top tier schools for audio...i did all the research back when i thought i was going to go
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ok thanks Im going to take that into account. I just got off the sae site and (yah ive seen them before) if i go there imma have to decide what location to go to (feeling ATL lol) my questions are there....do you learn about music business and all that too? (i guess i can get back on and look at the courses-dont answer that ill do that) uhh....is their equip. like top of the line and pro quality... and im botua go check out berklee cali right? heard of em.
 
Prominence said:
ok thanks Im going to take that into account. I just got off the sae site and (yah ive seen them before) if i go there imma have to decide what location to go to (feeling ATL lol) my questions are there....do you learn about music business and all that too? (i guess i can get back on and look at the courses-dont answer that ill do that) uhh....is their equip. like top of the line and pro quality... and im botua go check out berklee cali right? heard of em.
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Berklee is a 4 year program most of them come out getting good as jobs their the Harvard, Princent and Yale of he schools. And Berklee has housing so that is a major plus and I think they have food too not really sure.
 
drexel university in philly has a good music industry audio prgram. that's where im tryin to go
 
i've read alot of bad reviews from people that were disapointed that attended full sail..make sure you do a lot of research before you make any decisions..personally i dont think its worth 40 g's thats kind of ridiculous if you ask me...i've heard nothing but good things about Los Angeles Recording School and there job placement program also...and for 20 g's less then full sail it seems like a good deal. if los angeles wasn't so expensive to live in i would attend there myself..
 
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But its also what you make it...and how you learn because I learn better doing it myself rather than someone else teaching me instead of letting my practice it......SAE gives you the equipment but the cost of it is included in the tuition
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thanks im looking at IPR right but lol now im leaning more to SAE-ATL now hahah. cuz i really love ATL and its 7 mins away from morehouse! GREAT. plus its cheaper and i looked at the courses and i like! :cheers:


so did you mean that SAE did you mean that they dont give you much hands on?
imma check out that ohio joint too...
 
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Full Sail - $45,000 - 12 months

LA Recording School - $23,000 - 9 months
 
Alright man, I was a senior in highschool, just graduated :]. But yeah I was looking at these schools for the same program...

NYU - I heard their music program was good their and as a added plus, NYU being NYU lol. I got denied though so it was out of the picture

Full Sail - I read up on it and their site and fell in love as well but make sure you do your research! I read very negative reviews about it. Mostly the fact they aren't really selective nor strict on grades, and their schedual system is wack! You can end going to class at like 12 AM.

Drexel - They have a really good music industry program as well. I checked out the school and they have around 4 pretty nice studios. It is the hardest arts program to get into, luckly I got in with a scholarship. But....

Berklee- I heard this was the best of the best, not just the program but the school itself. It popped out some pretty nice producers like J.R Rotem, Quincy Jones, and guy who produces stuff for nelly (Forgot his name lol), and many others. I toured the school as well and they have MANY studios that are hooked up. I was amazed at the school. Really seemed as expected. It is a VERY selective school, I was reading that around 7500 auditioned and around 1000ish was accepted. Luckly I was accepted with a scholarship as well.



So it lead up to this Berklee vs. Drexel. It was tough, I just did my research on my financial status, and what I felt was good for me. Decided on Berklee and that is where I'm going to be in the Fall. I think it is going to be great because not only are you studying audio engineering but you have soooo many other artists to work with that are going to the school.
 
dude dont double post in more than one forum

here's my response from the other topic in getting started:

haha. why are you bagging on the conservatory? look into the program.

do not get distracted by flashy websites.

well heres why i chose the conservatory:

1. Gear.

The Conservatory has 2 SSL G+Series Consoles, 2 Neve VR Consoles, and 2 Neotek Elites. They Focus on a primarily analog criteria for the first half of the program.

the consoles are older, vintage consoles compared to what Full Sail has. but if you know the original consoles, you know em all. same concept with analog recording. learning how to be a competent engineer using analog equiment makes digital audio workstations so much easier.

2. Career Assistance.

Unlike any other audio engineering school that i've researched, the conservatory has a full internship department staff that places you on internships that are REQUIRED TO GRADUATE. It's not like other schools where you finish the program, get a few numbers and a letter of reccomendation, and they send you on your way with a pat on the back.

the conservatory requires you to be placed into a studio immediately after completion of the in studio program. not only do they require it, but they get an internship for you.

3. Hands on time and class sizes.

The Conservatory operates on a 24/7 schedule. they never close. The only time where the conservatory closes is for 2 weeks over christmas break. other than that, no other holidays, no spring breaks, no summers. if this is a problem, then find something else to do.

Being open 24/7 alows you to book studio time. anytime. there are 2 class sessions in the morning and afternoon but form 7pm to 9 amy you are allowed to book sessions and use the studios. by yourself. the hands on time is worth the price of admission itself.

the class sizes are only 12. most end up with 10.

At the end of the day, it doesnt really matter where you go i guess. it depends on YOU and what YOU are capable of.

if you are focused, an awesome learner, dedicated, and technilogically inclined it doesnt matter where you go.

if you are retarded, slow, unmotivated, and want to be a producer and make beetz then it doesnt matter whether you pay 14,000 or 60,000 either way your wasting your money.
 
has anyone on this site gone to fullsail? my bro has his sites on that school so im curious as to ppls experiences
 
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