Rane Empath vs. TTM-56: a comparison

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So the other day I drop by my friend's house and he has a DJ setup that someone is letting him borrow for a week. I wasn't expecting much (i mean, who lends out their setup?!) but I was like a kid in a candy store when I saw he had two Technics and a Rane TTM-56 mixer.

here's a quick reference for those who aren't familiar with these two mixers, both of which are made by Rane and are among their top-of-line models. The TTM-56 is their flagship scratch mixer, equipped with 2 channels and special magnetic faders. The Empath is a 3-channel mixer that is aimed both at scratching and mixing, and uses Penny & Giles faders.

Rane TTM-56
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Rane Empath
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I have a Rane Empath, and I picked it because I have traditionally been a mix DJ more than a scratch DJ, although I scratch enough to make a battle-style mixer my weapon of choice. Recently I've been working hard on my scribble and crab scratches, and the Empath has been perfect. So, I was excited to see how the TTM-56 could possibly improve on that perfection.

First of all, even though there's been a lot of discussion about the Empath's Penny & Giles faders versus the TTM-56's Rane-engineered magnetic fader, I couldn't feel any difference at all. The upfaders and the crossfader handled exactly the same as my Empath, and the cut-in time seemed similar. The weight and smoothness were the same as well.

So where was the improvement? I would say in the flexibility of the 56's upfaders - I set them in reverse with a sharp curve, so that cutting downward brought in the music, instead of the usual way, which is opposite. WOW! I was pulling off crabs immediately! Yes, what they say IS true - if you have some scratch skills already, the TTM-56 will improve you.

Another benefit over the Empath was the phono/line switches. They are big and paddle-shaped, and perfect for transforms. The Empath uses one of these types of switches, but only on the headphone cue select, so it's useless for scratching. The switches on the Empath are much smaller and very stiff - not ideal at all for transforming. My buddy Boombox actually gave himself a nasty blister on his thumb, using those switches to transform.

The EQ's and Flex-FX systems were exactly the same, but another improvement the 56 had over the Empath was that you could cut in between the cue and the master output in your headphones, with just the touch of a button (conveniently located above the cue crossfader.) It was a nice option, although the Empath's system is even simpler - cutting the headphone crossfader left & right toggles between the two. So i guess that isn't really much of an improvement, but it was a nice touch.

I know the 56 has some really funky crossfader settings, but most of the time I just kept it on a super-sharp curve since I didn't understand the differences in the "modes" and the A & B knob adjustments. The Empath has a much simpler crossfader curve adjust that consists of just one knob. The setting I did use on the TTM-56 was excellent, and everything I wanted out of a crossfader. But as I said before, the cut-in time and overall feel was exactly the same as the Empath.

Overall, I found that the TTM-56 was better suited for serious turntablism, thanks to its simplified layout and unique fader modes/adjustments. Like a red-headed stepchild, I couldn't help but beat on it unmercifully, with a big smile on my face. This thing was a badass, no matter what direction you chose to move the faders!

I understand now why turntablists see the Empath as being a bit "crowded" in its layout. I never minded it, but after using the TTM-56, I realized that the simplified layout allows you to get more creative with not only how you scratch, but how you approach mixing in a full-body sense.

Conclusion:

I won't be trading in my Empath for a TTM-56, but if I had a second choice in a mixer, that would be it. The key differences between the two is the simplicity of layout and the multiple fader modes of the 56, versus the extra channel and gig-friendly features of the Empath.

I own the Empath because I spin a lot of different genres, and I use 3 turntables. I think that thanks to the Empath's high quality faders, a turntablist who is familiar with the Empath could pull off just as stunning routines with it as the TTM-56. On the other hand, in terms of "walk right up and scratchability," the TTM-56 takes the cake as the most fun mixer I've ever played with.

peace,
sim*n
 
Hey, thanks a lot for that review. Great info there. I've been looking every where for someone to do a side by side comparison of the two.

Only problem now is that, you've made my decision that much harder! haha.

I want the 56 cuz i've been primarily doing the scratch thing. But the 3rd channel and other options of the Empath really appeal to the side of me that is looking towards having flexibility in the future.
 
wasnt so hard to make a decision.... i ended up buying both the empath and ttm56!!!...

oh yeah...i have a rane ttm54i as well.....but selling it...

yes...i like rane mixers...

-djshy
 
haha, that would make the decision so much easier on me if that was an option. Hmm...if mid-year bonuses come like managment promised, then maybe both mixers will be in the near future for me.

But then i would just be buying gear for the sake of having it. cuz there is no way that I'd be able to use both enough to justify having 2 expensive mixers. Hopefully one day, i'll be able to do this DJing thing on a more professional level (instead of just a serious hobby) so i could warrant having 2 mixers. heh
 
i've owned as many as 4 different mixers at the same time before, as well as 3 pairs of Techs. frankly, it's really more gear than any one person needs. granted, I was renting that stuff out, but I found that swapping out my "mixing" mixer for my "scratching" mixer was more trouble than it was worth. I don't like having to tinker with my setup every time I want to practice, and that's why I looked long and hard for a mixer that embodied both elements. I bought the Empath for that reason!

If I had a TTM-56, I would definately use it, but it would be to the exclusion of the Empath... or vice-versa. considering what each of those mixers costs, I think that would be a waste of good equipment & money.

right now I keep one pair of techs and a UMX-5 as my backup / rental system. if someone "gave" me a TTM-56, or offered one for sale under $300, I would certainly get one - but otherwise I'm more than happy with my Empath and would not consider replacing it with ANY other mixer. :cool:

peace,
sim*n
 
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catnap said:
but otherwise I'm more than happy with my Empath and would not consider replacing it with ANY other mixer. :cool:

peace,
sim*n

What - not even a signature edition? ;)
 
mehhh, i'm not worried about the faders on the Empath crapping out. if they do, i'll send it back to Rane... and of course tell you guys about it! LOL ;)

yes the TTM-56 has the lifetime warranty magnetic faders, but that also means they can only be replaced by Rane. That's not a big issue now, and I hope Rane stays in business, but one day it could also be a liability.

overall i'd have to say it's not an issue for me, and i've destroyed quite a few faders in my time. i have a lot of faith in the Penny & Giles faders on the Empath, and like i said, if they do die, i'll let y'all know.

peace,
sim*n
 
catnap said:
mehhh, i'm not worried about the faders on the Empath crapping out. if they do, i'll send it back to Rane... and of course tell you guys about it! LOL ;)

yes the TTM-56 has the lifetime warranty magnetic faders, but that also means they can only be replaced by Rane. That's not a big issue now, and I hope Rane stays in business, but one day it could also be a liability.

overall i'd have to say it's not an issue for me, and i've destroyed quite a few faders in my time. i have a lot of faith in the Penny & Giles faders on the Empath, and like i said, if they do die, i'll let y'all know.

peace,
sim*n

lifetime????????? The product must be 3 year warranty right?..
 
the P&G on the empath are rated at about 2 million cycles before they start to go.

they do sell p&g replacement faders for about 45 bucks for the empath- i know cause some foolio snapped the metal stem on my middle channel.
 
idioteQnology said:

they do sell p&g replacement faders for about 45 bucks for the empath- i know cause some foolio snapped the metal stem on my middle channel.

i think i would have to beat someone violently in the face if they did that to my Empath. :mad:
 
idioteQnology said:
the P&G on the empath are rated at about 2 million cycles before they start to go.

they do sell p&g replacement faders for about 45 bucks for the empath- i know cause some foolio snapped the metal stem on my middle channel.

how the hell do you do that? :confused:

a round of beatings would be in order i'd say!!
 
well i was that foolio. the day i got my empath i noticed the middle channel fader when nearing the 0-1 level volume (the bottom) the metal stem that the fader cap was on would barely graze the left side of the mixer opening that the fader slid between. so i applied a little pressure to bend it back since the stem was a bit off kilter and it snapped off. i was pissed since i was being very careful with my brand new baby. i knew that if i wanted rane to fix it id have to send it back and wait weeks so i decided to take matters into my own hands. anyways that is my stupid story.

i dont use the center channel so i havent gotten the replacement fader yet but am ordering it soon as i just started working again.

the end.
 
idioteQnology said:
well i was that foolio. the day i got my empath i noticed the middle channel fader when nearing the 0-1 level volume (the bottom) the metal stem that the fader cap was on would barely graze the left side of the mixer opening that the fader slid between. so i applied a little pressure to bend it back since the stem was a bit off kilter and it snapped off. i was pissed since i was being very careful with my brand new baby. i knew that if i wanted rane to fix it id have to send it back and wait weeks so i decided to take matters into my own hands. anyways that is my stupid story.

i dont use the center channel so i havent gotten the replacement fader yet but am ordering it soon as i just started working again.

the end.

1st of all.. please stop saying foolio.. second... WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING?!?!? :mad:
 
idioteQnology said:
well i was that foolio. the day i got my empath i noticed the middle channel fader when nearing the 0-1 level volume (the bottom) the metal stem that the fader cap was on would barely graze the left side of the mixer opening that the fader slid between. so i applied a little pressure to bend it back since the stem was a bit off kilter and it snapped off. i was pissed since i was being very careful with my brand new baby. i knew that if i wanted rane to fix it id have to send it back and wait weeks so i decided to take matters into my own hands. anyways that is my stupid story.

i dont use the center channel so i havent gotten the replacement fader yet but am ordering it soon as i just started working again.

the end.

heh he he... self confesed foolio

least you still got two other channels
 
I was playing with Shy's mixers last weekend, and I fell in love with both of them even more. The 56 is clearer, but the empath has some awesome toys on it too. I would have a hard time picking one since I am doing more mixing than scratching these days. But I did stop the itch temporarily by getting the XP unit for my rotary...
-Peasant Nikon
 
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