Pete Rock Drums Question

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in this article:
http://schememag.com/hip-hop/pete-rock-9th-wonder-funky-fresh-and-soulful/

"Scheme: One more Pete, when you made Soul Brother #1 that track it crazy, the way it comes in the drums just knock! How did that come about?

Pete Rock: At that time I was experimenting with all types of kicks and snares. I was wondering if anyone ever put a kick and a snare behind some loop drums. Everybody used to loop up the drums and rhyme straight off the drums which is still funky today because I still do that right now. I just had the idea back then of clashing the two together and it was amazing."

so, What does he mean by putting a kick and a snare behind drum loops? like layering his own kicks and snares over the ones in the drum loop?

thanks
 
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dkelloway said:
in this article:
http://schememag.com/hip-hop/pete-rock-9th-wonder-funky-fresh-and-soulful/

"Scheme: One more Pete, when you made Soul Brother #1 that track it crazy, the way it comes in the drums just knock! How did that come about?

Pete Rock: At that time I was experimenting with all types of kicks and snares. I was wondering if anyone ever put a kick and a snare behind some loop drums. Everybody used to loop up the drums and rhyme straight off the drums which is still funky today because I still do that right now. I just had the idea back then of clashing the two together and it was amazing."

so, What does he mean by putting a kick and a snare behind drum loops? like layering his own kicks and snares over the ones in the drum loop?

thanks
I put drums over a drumloop everytime i use a break(very rare)lol ,it gives it a extra knock and it sounds a lil updated to me.
 
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dabeatdoctor1989 said:
I put drums over a drumloop everytime i use a break(very rare)lol ,it gives it a extra knock and it sounds a lil updated to me.

yeah me too, i hate it when i can't get the kicks synced up well though.
 
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how do you use 2 drum loops at once? for example, in some of PR's songs, he samples like 3 different drum loops. what does he do to make this work?

thanks
 
dkelloway said:
how do you use 2 drum loops at once? for example, in some of PR's songs, he samples like 3 different drum loops. what does he do to make this work?

thanks

All you have to do is get the groove from the first loop and apply
it to the second loop.Really easy in Reason but you can do it in
FL too by first putting the first in th slicer and click flatten
groove.Save in the piano roll and appy the groove to the second loop.

That is the trick to get kick and snares in time when mixing loops and midi.
 
breal said:
All you have to do is get the groove from the first loop and apply
it to the second loop.Really easy in Reason but you can do it in
FL too by first putting the first in th slicer and click flatten
groove.Save in the piano roll and appy the groove to the second loop.

That is the trick to get kick and snares in time when mixing loops and midi.

Thanks,

in FL, why is it necessary to flatten the groove? Then how would you apply the groove to the second loop?

thanks for your time,

Darrell
 
breal said:
All you have to do is get the groove from the first loop and apply
it to the second loop.Really easy in Reason but you can do it in
FL too by first putting the first in th slicer and click flatten
groove.Save in the piano roll and appy the groove to the second loop.

That is the trick to get kick and snares in time when mixing loops and midi.
yeah its more amazing when Pete did it tho. He did it on a Sp1200
 
wow i thought everybody did that. I never use a drum loop by itself, i always tack drums on it to make it bigger and knock more. I never have a problem with the kicks and snares matching up because i chop every single kick snare and hihat of my drumloops and sequence them over, thn stack more drums over them so they come out just right. doing it that way you will lose a little bit of the groove so you really gotta be nice at piecing it back together. Big Ups to PR
 
dkelloway said:
Thanks,

in FL, why is it necessary to flatten the groove? Then how would you apply the groove to the second loop?

thanks for your time,

Darrell
You flatten the groove to get the groove timing.(groove templet)
You want drums to have a natural feeling to them.
After you flatten groove you go to the pianoroll and under file
click save score.

Then use that saved score file on any othe loop in the slicer or
midi notes in the piano.Just go under the tool menu abd pick
quantization and find the save score(groove file)

Watch this video on why may want to flatten the groove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdjqn1he5kU&NR=1
 
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