Opinions on skrillex?

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Your argument is fair. Personally I plan on getting an NS7/NS6 Deck and eventually those are supposed to be bridge supported. So I can always jump into ableton to load up some samples and what not and still spin/scratch or whatever on the tables. I've also thought about going the straight up MPC1000/2000 (PL, AraabMuzik, Gramatik do stuff like that) route but I don't know if I have the finesse to do that. Even if all you got is some MP3 you've gotten off of beatport there are still things that can be done in live settings to make it more interesting. I am defiently not saying with me using a luanhcpad or apc id be some omg what a badass dj! But I know waht I am going for and all that matters is that I'm satisfied with performances. If the people I play out to don't like me because I'm not constantly throwing my hands in the air like a moron trying to get an ego boost out of them, well that's fine, that says a lot about them and how much they truly appreciate artists and the like. People should expect more out of DJs> I remember when I went to go see Excision whom he was with Liquid Stranger (seen him a few times, he puts on an alright show) and Lucky Date(still trying to get all that out of my mind). Twas a lot of fun don't get me wrong the lights were cool, the overkill wall of subs was awesome but DJ wise Excision didn't do jack squat except hit the sync button and slide the crossfader button. I paid like 30$ For that show and the headliner went up there and pressed play. Granted I know many will argue "But how are they going to sync the 1ights if he actually does cool shit on stage?" Well, believe me it would not be that hard, god forbid you invest in some talented VDjs. Of course...that also does boil down to the fact it is in fact acceptable to practice your sets to know what your doing, it does not necessarily have to be 100% Improvisational to be good.

I'll reiterate, even if your stuck with a full song, with enough creativity, dont really need talent so to speak, you can do amazing stuff with songs. Of course this is just my opinion, press play djs may have the respect of mindless fans but they won't ever have the respect of REAL djs. Again, sorry if I pass of ass as hardcore, but this is just my opinion.
 
skrillex does that...deadmau5 doesnt...have you seen his monome? he presses hundreds of buttons!
 
streetstruck said:
You mean Sonny Moore?

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Ya ain't no one taking this cat seriously...

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Are you ****ing serious
Music taste is fully subjective.


Also, in my opinion, I'm not huge fan of skrillex, but I'm happy for him that he got popular.
 
Brace Yourselves!
The clueless Skrillex fanboys are coming!

Skrillex, Skrillex, Skrillex, he's borderline a new genre isn't he. There are PLENTY of other EDM, Electronic Music Producers, Rappers, Etc. Etc. That are FAR more deserving of game than he is, but that can be said about almost ALL mainstream music, which is really reflection of the intelligence of the general listening community, but I am not going to go into that right now, for those who believe in the esoteric agenda might no what I am talking about.

That aside, almost every song sounds the same. hell there are many other dubstep/brostep producers who are infintely more creative than he is and have about a fraction of the fame. Some examples?' Pretty Lights, Gramatik, Paper Diamond, Liquid Stranger, Downlink, Arkasia are some of my favs. And some of them, not all of them, I almost feel emotionally moved by their music. I don't get that feeling at all by listening to Skrillex. It's basically pop music, and pop music is for zombies.

On the note of being pop music, I call him that because their are people who literally know nothing about traditional dubstep or even other brostep djs that are actually decent, but recognize him as a God who has created a beautiful intelligent music genre and refuse to acknowledge that are other dudes in the realm of music or the fact that dubstep has been around in facts for eh idk...since the early 90s?, in other words 60% of his fanbase.
 
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lmfao i was waiting for someone to pull the sonny moore card......i remember being a young ass kid listening to from first to last...now hes a "dubstep" giant
 
i respect every one make music and het get famous of it it just cause some poeple dont like it and are jalouos about that
 
He's not a dubstep artist... He makes less dubstep than electro house.. Kids should know there EDM, thats why hes so frustrating. Personally I like him, but I think people dislike him because he has a dime-a-dozen sound. Like the lex luger of EDM. I disagree with them, I don't think all that matters that much, nor do I think it was part of his success. Your success in EDM depends upon two things, your ability to get exposure, and your ability to put on a crazy ****ing show, and he can certainly do both. Now as far as becoming "pop" don't think that EDM hasnt already invaded american pop music. Not necessarily the producers, but the sound has come. Basically, I like skrillex, and theres no point in hating him, because he doesn't have enough time between sold-out shows to give a **** that you do.

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gravatrax said:
Brace Yourselves!
The clueless Skrillex fanboys are coming!

Skrillex, Skrillex, Skrillex, he's borderline a new genre isn't he. There are PLENTY of other EDM, Electronic Music Producers, Rappers, Etc. Etc. That are FAR more deserving of game than he is, but that can be said about almost ALL mainstream music, which is really reflection of the intelligence of the general listening community, but I am not going to go into that right now, for those who believe in the esoteric agenda might no what I am talking about.

That aside, almost every song sounds the same. hell there are many other dubstep/brostep producers who are infintely more creative than he is and have about a fraction of the fame. Some examples?' Pretty Lights, Gramatik, Paper Diamond, Liquid Stranger, Downlink, Arkasia are some of my favs. And some of them, not all of them, I almost feel emotionally moved by their music. I don't get that feeling at all by listening to Skrillex. It's basically pop music, and pop music is for zombies.

On the note of being pop music, I call him that because their are people who literally know nothing about traditional dubstep or even other brostep djs that are actually decent, but recognize him as a God who has created a beautiful intelligent music genre and refuse to acknowledge that are other dudes in the realm of music or the fact that dubstep has been around in facts for eh idk...since the early 90s?, in other words 60% of his fanbase.
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You sound more ignorant than his dumb ass fans! First of all lets clear this up: brostep doesn't exist. 140 bpm + halftime beat = dubstep. Even liquid is hardly a subgenre, I only acknowledge it because its a little bet less strict. Brostep is like the N word, its a butchery of language meant to blindly distribute hate. Now lets look at his producer credibility. The man can make professional sounding mixes, ON LAPTOP SPEAKERS. He also clearly resamples his basses, and yes he used the same formant sound for a while, but its a sound that no one has been able to really recreate. Besides as far as using the same sounds, technically, excision, datsik, and skream all use the same sound every time: the ****ing reese. Bass is just about getting a large amount of harmonics and filtering down until your satisfied. Skrillex did that with FM8 and then when people liked it, he kept doing it, and when people complained, he changed it up in Bangarang. As far as DJing goes, the golden age of DJ's is over. There are still good and innovative DJ's like araab, but technology has made mixing so easy, that crowds want entertainment. Why else would deadmau5 where that dumbass hat, or skrillex his ****in body suit. You also sound dumb as **** saying god created dubstep.. It was a wonderful mistake, just like moombahton, and do u even know who invented moombah? The front runners of genres almost never get famous man.

All in all, I think that there is ignorance on both parts of the skrillex argument. I can hear how ET, First of the year, and In for the kill, all sound the same. The questions tho: does that make him a bad producer? Certainly no. Does it make him uncreative? Well he answered that with the bangarang EP. Is it the reason people hate him? No, they hate him because he's successful.

But like I already said, at 300+ shows a year, he's too exhausted/hungover/on a plane, to give a **** how butthurt you are. So please, can we get off his emo-dick

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Shtuffe said:
I would say he's complextro, Most of his songs fits perfectly there; House drums, Dubstep basses and switching between a shitload of synths and basses really fast.
However, some of his tracks are dubstep, atleast the drums, but he still keeps the complextro element of switching basses and synths.

So yeah, it is difficult, but i'd say he's complextro.
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But then what about summit? Its just EDM man, most EDM producers are too versatile for a genre
 
Yep definitely agree ^

Plus "complextro" a combination of "complex" and "electro" refers to a subgenre of complex electro house... that means 4/4 128bpm.

Thus, his songs that are 140, halftime cannot possibly be categorized as complextro.
 
Skrillex...made music in a genre that was marketable to get to a position where he can do his expressiveness.
What do I mean?
Well right now if your soul screams out for making orchestral music, you can still bang out an illbient track if you know you should brush up your skills in that genre.

A smart artist (smartist?) is OBJECTIVE. If you are sitting there saying "duh I'm a [this genre] artist", you're gonna leave when that genre does.

I have just as many classical pieces as I do house and dubstep or whatever it is I wish to STUDY. Did you know that an artist considers his pieces a "Study"?

A photographer does a Study of a person or a place by taking pictures of it using different approaches.

I think Skrilex is an artist. He's only a "dubstep artist" because he marketed and made his stuff to the biggest target at that time. for fun.

Most importantly, please realize that you reading this are a genius by nature. Explore that. Even if a kid with a sideways baseball cap on wont want to interview you.
If you want to sell lots of records, find a rising market and make stuff in that genre.
im babbling and might not have hit a point.
But no one is "better" than anyone else.

From said marketing perspective and social acceptance...I think everybody on that over-marketed label (deamau5, noisia, and skrillex), should ease back a bit...why?...a person would start to hate even his own mother if she was flooding his every media source with her face, brand, and style.
hence the skrill hate...too much of the same word..ease it back...shhhh...
 
Anything that breaks with current conventional formulae is a welcomed ingredient/ distraction for a short while, but pretty quickly that distraction itself falls prey to record company mimicry, packaged and boxed just nicely for their outlets as the mainstream. The final judgement of an artists true credibility normally takes place 20 years on or so, when in hindsight their true contribution, impact and influence, can be assessed and determined.
 
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I think that he is a great producer, and deserves the credit. I honestly don't know why so many people dislike him, and I really feel bad for the guy receiving all that hate. He's out every day doing what he loves with a smile on his face, and I think that's just great.

I think that hate comes from jealous fans that wish they were the only ones who knew of Skrillex, or from producers who didn't quite make it or haven't made it yet. My opinion is that if you're upset with the current level of music then YOU should be the one making a stand, and showing people how music should be done. Honestly, I don't think music can be done wrong once it's been technically mastered, and done properly. It's all a matter of one's personal taste, and if there is a big enough fan base to back what he's doing it most certainly can't be wrong.

Brian
 
Skrillex made his own sound, he didn't copy anyone or try to sound like everyone else. Not many people can say they've done that. I think his music is powerful and unique( before EVERYONE copied his sound)

Although i'm not a massive fan, i do enjoy his music and respect him for what he's done.
 
I think skrillex is a talented artist, i mean when i first heard him my mind was blown (in his early years as sonny moore). The man created a unique sound that many people can't say the same for. he's got quite an impressive technique and is a hard working person. Sure a lot of young people know him and he is pretty huge now but thats no reason to hate on him. he's got great music and continues to make good songs. I mean people hate on deadmau5 but in my opinion he's just gotten better and better especially with the latest the veldt ep. Jealousy is understandable but sometimes you have to look at a popular artist and listen to his music rather than his popularity and then decide how you feel.
 
I think all the divisions of genres is ridiculous. He makes his music, just like everyone else makes their own. I think its silly to get caught up in what is truly dubstep or not, just as the whole "screamo" argument was just hot air.
 
I feel like electronic musicians are the quickest to get butthurt when something new comes along... I remember a guy was playing dubstep a while back and my buddy(new to the whole electronic thing) called it house music... I thought the poor guy was going to have a nervous break down on my buddy.... No joke.

But the lesson of the day, Just continue making music... Who cares?
 
Glad to see that there are some sensible people here. Only thing I disagree on is that division of genres is quite important, especially in a style of music that is almost entirely tempo-based. If someone puts a 4x4 beat on a 175 track, its important to know that it is still drum and bass, and not just the wackest house ever made.
 
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