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What happened while I was with Jesus. Let me tell you. I became fearless. Nothing evil in nature touched me nor caused be to worry and or fear. I couldn't wait to die because I knew where I was going when I did. Everyday I woke up with a start. I never felt tired. When I woke up it was as if I never was asleep. When I walked around, it felt like I glided where ever I went. Jesus talked to me and guided me throughout every single day. I could not watch tv or indulge in sin because it truly sickened me to see and hear it. It was the most incredible experience that any man or woman could ever imagine. Don't even think of comparing it to an orgasm or high because they do not even compare. All my worries were gone. I felt like I had been reborn Deranged.

Now, I backslid because of my intermediate family. You should of seen it Deranged. I mean, my entirely family turned on me. It was like I could see the demon sprits inside them. So one night I was headed to bible study and they refused to let me go. I fell back into sin because I allowed that to get to me. It hurted me so bad Deranged to see my normal mom and dad being used by Satan and not knowing that they were being used. I had to choose to follow my family or follow Jesus and I chose my family. I must go now Deranged. Whatever you guys decided to do, please just experience the Jesus and follow his teaching for awhile. You will then see the power he has and how much he loves us. I was just like you all. I am nobody special. I am sinner just like all of you. Thanks for let me share my experiences with you. :cheers:

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STOP REACHING PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maison martin margiela is a fashion designer.....

http://fashionindie.com/fashion-quotable-mason-martin-margiela/

listen to the verse in context...he's describing being at a club and he's talking about flossing and that line is about what he's wearing....

lol when you did that, I think that was the best proof facts of dudes needing to be quiet. HE SAID "I'M IN MASON" if he was a Mason he would say "I am a Mason" opposed to being in Mason meaning "I AM WEARING MASON MARTIN MARGIELA " clothes lol
 
also...u dont find any pyramids in asia or europe...but u do find them in the sudan....which was nubia, and ethiopia before that....

that's not true, you will find literally 100s of pyramids in Asia, especially in China.

in Sudan, the Merove built the pyramids, long before those in today's Egypt were built.
 
2012 marks the reset of the Mayan calendar. I'm not sure where the "world is over in 2012" thing came from. They're even making a movie bout that shyt. Why do people torture themselves thinking about this shyt all tha time? Didn't God say that he'll end things when he feels like it? People should stop tryna guess when it's gonna happen. If you truly have faith in what u believe in and you're livin your life correctly you shouldn't have anything to worry about. I personally say that I'll see you in 2013 when I'm 22.

it's funny you say that, with intelligence you hit it on the head. The Jehovah Witnesses said the world would end in 1975, what year is it now? The world was suppose to end in 2000, computer shut down etc, what year are we in? The Bible is in direct contradiction of the world ending and it not ending to be everlasting. I have to get those verses because I don't have them here. But no one knows the hour, even if will be an hour. We as people have been here for millions of years. hmmmmmmmmmmm

 
Ummmm first, off If I sound like I am disrespectful is because DUDE TOLD ME TO GET THE **** OUTTA HERE WITH THAT EGYPTIAN STUFF! SO FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS A REACTION. Another thing, I am a cool dude until you try what he did. I'm not going to let him just do that and call Africa Ass, are you kidding me? If you had observed correctly what I did is what I call "CULTURAL SELF DEFENSE"! I will not let another person from another ethnic group either diss my people, my brothers and sistas! I AM MILITANT AND I AM TELLING YOU I AM! I SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT WITH FACTS! I FOUGHT WATER WITH FIRE AND PUT HIS ILLUSIONISTIC FLAME OUT!


#2 AND THE PICTURE? There isn't a CAUCASIAN ON THIS GREEN EARTH THAT CAN MATCH THAT! I said "look at the jaw line" in reference to how the Abbysinian look so close in resemblence and an added feature to what the pic presented in it's self. That's negroid structure and that's a sista of Egypt who had Melanin. So as you said you can go and get pics GO AHEAD, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU MATCH IT UP. Let me show you how it will be, since Caucasians already tried!


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They already tried with this clown putting him on one of the most famous mags in the world. When the black scholars jumped on their azzes they took the magazine down quickly and apologized!

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THIS IS TUT MUMMY, DOES THAT FAKE TUT LOOK LIKE HIM? I MEAN REALLY?

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OR DOES TUT RESEMBLE THIS AFRICA BOY? GET ANY CAUCASIAN PIC AND PUT IT TO IT AND IT WILL NEVER BE THE SAME OR CLOSE!

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LOOK AT THE FAKE CAUCASIAN TO THE CARVED STONE, DOES THAT LOOK LIKE THUTMOSE? DO THEY RESEMBLE?

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OR DOES THIS AFRICAN MAN RESEMBLE THUTMOSE MORE?

You're question hasn't been the first time bro I have answered these questions in the 90's. Again nothing new. Sheikh Ante Diop would to prove DNA testing has nothing to do with said Caucasians! AND THEY WERE NEGROID!

So If you have pics go ahead and get them for the jaw line purpose, but I HOPE YOU DO IT NOT JUST FOR THE JAW LINE BUT THE OVERALL PURPOSE!


I'LL END WITH THIS, A PIC IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS, WHAT WAS IN THE BEGINNING SHALL BE IN THE END!

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What he did was disrespectful also but I came late to the thread. Your clearly an intelligent man you shouldn't get down to those lows, but its getting to a point where its almost about race, mine is better than your etc. Thats not productive.

I was born Irish Catholic, I live in England I have had to defend my culture and my people with fist and words as has generations of my ancestors so I know how it feels.

And I'm not disagreeing with what your saying in any form, I'm just saying a jaw line isn't outright proof of anything. Again I'm not disagreeing with you.

As far as I'm concerned god is good and no matter what you call him or how you worship him as long as you live a good life, for the sake of living a good life and not for rewards in death then god will embrace you.

These discussions are good, its good to celebrate different cultures and their achievements I love learning about history and culture its a passion of mine but its not good to look down on people.

Siochan leat (Irish for peace be with you) ;)
 
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A Freemason's 33rd Degree Initiation

Excerpt from Jim Shaw's book: The Deadly Deception, pp. 99 - 109
INTO THE LIGHT

The hurricane came and went without any harm to us. But the one within me continued to gather force. It seemed strange, from my point of view, for all the people around me seemed calm. Even the doctor was no longer speaking much to me about the Lord, for I wasn't seeing him regularly. Bonnie was quietly supportive, but we really didn't say much about it. Mike and my other friends went on with life. It was "business as usual" around me, but definitely not that way inside of me.
THE HIGHEST MASONIC DEGREE

Easter was approaching and one quiet morning I was at home recuperating from the second operation when the doorbell rang. It was a special delivery letter from the Supreme Council in Washington, notifying me that I had been selected for the 33rd Degree.
I could hardly believe it was true! This honor is one most Masons never even think of receiving. It was too much, too far out of reach, beyond limits of reality. It was unreal to think I had actually been selected. It was an honor just to be considered for this ultimate degree and I had actually been selected, chosen by that small and powerful group, the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree.
I called Bonnie to share the good news with her. In talking with her, I surprised myself by asking her if she thought I should accept it "What a strange thing to ask her," I thought. But before I could contemplate it she said, "Why, sure you should accept it. You have worked so hard for so long to get there - by all means you should accept it."
So I returned my acceptance immediately and began making plans for the trip.
I MADE IT ON MY OWN

With plenty of time to reflect, I thought about my long climb up the mountain of Masonry in search of light. I thought about the odds against anyone's ever making it to the 33rd Degree. I realized that in my case the odds have been even greater. I had made it by hard work and dedication alone. Some men have an edge on selection because of their wealth, political power or prominence. I had none of these.
Like the day I had carried the man all the way to the top of "Shaw Hill" between Camp Butner and Raleigh, I had made it to the top of the Masonic mountain because I was willing to make the effort required and refused to quit. Thinking of this, I felt particularly good about it and wished my mother could know.
I had come a long way since leaving the front gate that terrible day so many years ago. I had come the distance with no help from Uncle Irvin. Who would have thought that the lonely walk, begun so many years ago by that frightened 13-year-old boy, would have led to this point? I had reached the pinnacle - made it all the way to the top.
Some of the most prominent and influential men in the world would undoubtedly be there to participate when I was given this ultimate degree - for me - little Jimmy Shaw, who had gone to work at age five and made it alone since age 13. They would be there to give the 33rd Degree to me. It was really a bit difficult to take it all in.
3 DAYS AT THE MOUNTAIN TOP

In order to receive the 33rd Degree it was necessary to go to Washington. D.C. The initiation and related functions were to last three days.
Since Bonnie could participate in practically none of the things I would be doing each day, she decided not to go along. We were both excited as I made preparations to leave. But I was not as excited as I expected to be. The edge was taken off the excitement because, in me, it was mixed with a considerable amount of conviction. Way down deep there was a growing restlessness, an increasing conflict, produced by the things the doctor had been sharing and by all the Scripture I had been reading. Preparing to receive this "ultimate honor" was not as thrilling as it might otherwise have been.
ARRIVING AT THE HOUSE OF THE TEMPLE

I flew into Washington National Airport and took a taxi to the House of the Temple on Northwest 16th Street. Upon arriving at the Temple I was met by a receptionist who asked if I were there to receive the 33rd Degree. I was surprised to find a women in those sacred Masonic precincts, but said that I was and showed her my letter from the Supreme Council. She then told me that in order to receive the degree, I would be expected to make a "minimum donation" of a very large amount of money (at least it was a "very large" amount for me). This took me completely by surprise for there had not been a word about any such "minimum donation" in the letter sent me by the Supreme Council. I didn't carry that much money with me and had left my checkbook at home but was able to borrow the money from one of the other men and gave it to her. We candidates were all unhappy about this unpleasant surprise and grumbled to one another about it, but were not unhappy enough to forsake the degree over it. We were too close to the "top of the mountain" to turn back at that point.
THE TEMPLE ITSELF

The House of the Temple is quite impressive - a bit awesome, really. Standing large, grey and silent on the east side of Northwest 16th Street, between "R" and "S" Streets, it looms very wide and tall from the curb. There is a huge expanse of granite pavement in front of it, including three levels of narrowing steps as the entrance is approached. Flanking the entrance are two Sphinx-like granite lions with women's heads, the neck of one entwined by a cobra and decorated with the "ankh" (the Egyptian symbol of life and deity).
Adorning the neck and breast of the other is an image of a women, symbolic of fertility and procreation. In the pavement, just in front of the tall bronze doors, are two Egyptian swords with curved, serpentine blades and, between the two swords, brass letters, set into stone, saying, "The Temple of the Supreme Council of the Thirty-Third and Last Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite."
Over the tall, bronze doors, cut into the stone, is the statement, "Freemasonry Builds Its Temples in the Hearts of Men and Among Nations." (1)
High above the entrance, partially concealed by stone columns, is an elaborate image of the Egyptian sun god, backed with radiating sun and flanked by six large, golden snakes.
Inside is elegance: polished marble, exotic wood, gold and statuary. There are offices, a library, dining room, kitchen, Council Room, "Temple Room" and a large meeting room. This room is like a luxurious theater, rather elegantly furnished and decorated.
The ceiling is dark blue, with lights set into it to give the appearance of stars. These lights can even be made to "twinkle" like stars in the sky. There is a stage, well-equipped, and it is all very nicely done. But the thing that is most noticeable is the way the walls are decorated with serpents. There are all kinds; some very long and large. Many of the Scottish Rite degrees include the representation of serpents and I recognized them among those decorating the walls.
It was all most impressive and gave me a strange mixture of the sensations of being in a temple and in a tomb - something sacred but threatening. I saw busts of outstanding men of the Rite including two of Albert Pike, who is buried there in the wall.
INTERVIEWED BY THE SUPREME COUNCIL

The first day was devoted to registration, briefings and interviews. We were called into one of the offices, one at a time, and interviewed by three members of the Supreme Council.
When my turn came I was ushered into the office and seated. The very first question I was asked was, "Of what religion are you?" Not long before this I would have answered with something like, "I believe the Ancient Mysteries, the 'Old Religion,' and I believe in reincarnation." However, without thinking at all about how to answer, I found myself saying, "I am a Christian."
Then, to my sup rise and theirs, I asked them, "Are you men born again?" The man in charge quickly stopped me by saying, "We're not here to talk about that - we are here to ask you questions."
After they sent me back out I sat down and thought about it. When the next man came out, I asked him, "Did they ask you if you are a Christian?" He said, "Yes, they did."
"What did you tell them?" I asked, and he replied, "I told them 'Hell no, and I never intend to be!'"
Then he said a strange thing to me, "They said I'm going higher," and he left through a different door, looking pleased.
BECOMING A SOVEREIGN GRAND INSPECTOR GENERAL

The second day was the day of the actual initiation, held in the theater-like meeting room. Those of us who were receiving the degree were seated and the ceremony was "exemplified" (acted out in full costume) before us, in the same way that we had performed the lesser degrees of the Scottish Rite all those years. The parts in the exemplification were played by men of the 33rd Degree.
The representative candidate was dressed in black trousers, barefooted, bareheaded and draped in a long, black robe that reminded me of a very long, black raincoat. He had a black cable tow around his neck but was not hoodwinked. During the initiation he was led around the stage, conducted by two men with swords, as the degree was performed for us.
Instructions and signs were given. Upon the altar were four "holy books" (the Bible, the Koran, the Book of the Law and the Hindu Scriptures). At one point the "candidate" was told to kiss the book "of your religion" and, representing us all, he leaned forward and did so. I remembered the First Degree initiation, when I was told to kiss the Bible, and at that moment something came full cycle. It was the final such kiss to be a part of my life.
WINE IN A HUMAN SKULL

When it was time for the final obligation we all stood and repeated the oath with the representative candidate, administered by the Sovereign Grand Inspector General. We then swore true allegiance to the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree, above all other allegiances, and swore never to recognize any other brother as being a member of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry unless he also recognizes the Supreme authority of "this Supreme Council".
One of the Conductors then handed the "candidate" a human skull, upside down, with wine in it. "May this wine I now drink become a deadly poison to me, as the Hemlock juice drunk by Socrates, should I ever knowingly or willfully violate the same" (the oath).
He then drank the wine. A skeleton (one of the brothers dressed like one - he looked very convincing) then stepped out of the shadows and threw his arms around the "candidate." Then he (and we) continued the sealing of the obligation by saying, "And may these cold arms forever encircle me should I ever knowingly or willfully violate the same."
The Sovereign Grand Commander closed the meeting of the Supreme Council "with the Mystic Number," striking with his sword five, three, one and then two times. After the closing prayer, we all said "amen, amen, amen," and it was over.
PROMINENT MEN TOOK PART

There were some extremely prominent men there that day, including a Scandinavian King, two former presidents of the United States, an internationally prominent evangelist, two other internationally prominent clergymen, and a very high official of the federal government, the one who actually presented me with the certificate of the 33rd Degree. Some made only brief appearances; others stayed much longer. However, they didn't do much mixing or socializing with us, except for those whom they already knew. Even though these celebrities weren't extremely "brotherly," it was still quite an experience for me just to be associated with them. It was easily the largest gathering of such prominent and influential men of which I have ever been a part.
The third day there was a banquet to celebrate our becoming "Grand Inspectors General. 33rd Degree." The banquet was a little anticlimactic, at least for me, and I was anxious to get it over with so I could return home. It was good to be a 33rd at last. But it wasn't as exciting or fulfilling as I had thought it would be during all those years in the Craft. I guess this was because of the profound changes going on down deep within me.
I returned home as soon as the 33rd Degree award and related social functions were finished, for it was time for my next appointment with the doctor. After he had examined my eyes he said they were healing fine, that he felt good about the way they were looking, and as usual he spoke with me about the Lord. I told him that I planned to come to his church the next Sunday and that I had been reading the Bible.
Obviously pleased, he said, "Good. Keep studying, and your sight will soon be much better." By this time I knew what he meant - he was speaking of my spiritual sight.
MAUNDY THURSDAY

In the Scottish Rite the Thursday before Easter, "Maundy Thursday," is an important day. On this day we always performed a special service of Communion in the local Scottish Rite Temple. At this time I was Wise Master in the Chapter of Rose Croix and it was my job to preside over the exemplification (dramatization) of the ceremony. I had done this many times and was known for my knowledge of the service and for "doing a good job" of putting it on.
THE WORDS HAD MEANING NOW

On Thursday evening we gathered at our home Temple and dressed for the ceremony. It was always a most solemn occasion and seemed a little awesome, even to those of us who had done it many times.
Dressed in long, black, hooded robes, we marched in, single file, with only our faces partly showing, and took our seats.
There was something very tomb-like about the setting. The silence was broken only by the organ, playing mournfully in the background, and there was no light except for the little that came through the windows. After the opening prayer (from which the name of Jesus Christ was conspicuously excluded), I stood and opened the service.
As I had done so many times before, I said, "We meet this day to commemorate the death of our 'Most Wise and Perfect Master,' not as inspired or divine, for this is not for us to decide, but as at least the greatest of the apostles of mankind."
As I spoke these words that I had spoken so many times before, I had a strange and powerful experience. It was as if I were standing apart, listening to myself as I spoke, and the words echoed deep within me, shouting their significance. They were the same words I had spoken so many times before, but had meaning for me now. They made me sick, literally ill, and I stopped.
The realization of what I had just said grew within me like the rising of a crescendo. I had just called Jesus an "apostle of mankind" who was neither inspired nor divine! There was a silent pause that seemed to last a very long time as I struggled with a sick smothering within.
When I was finally able, I continued with the service and we gathered around a large table across the room in marching order. The table was long, shaped like a cross, and covered with a red cloth which was decorated down the center with roses.
A BLACK COMMUNION

Once we were assembled at the table, I elevated (lifted high) the plate of bread, took a piece, put my hand on the shoulder of the man in front of me, gave him the plate and said, "Take, eat, and give to the hungry."
This continued until all had partaken of the bread. Then I lifted up the goblet of wine, took a sip, and said, "Take, drink, and give to the thirsty."
Again, this continued until all had partaken of the wine.
Then I took the bread, walked over to the first row of spectators and served it to the man previously chosen for the honor of representing the rest of the Lodge
As I handed it to him I again said, "Take, eat, and give to the hungry."
In like manner I served the wine to him saying, "Take, drink, and give to the thirsty," and he sat down.
After this we took our places at the table shaped like a cross and sat down. The setting was dark, our long, sweeping robes were solid black, our faces nearly concealed in the hoods, and the mood was one of heavy gloom. The Christ-less prayers and the hymns we sang fit right in. The one word that would describe the entire event would be "black." It was, indeed, a Black Communion - a strange Black Mass.
EXTINGUISHING THE CANDLE

There was a large Menorah (candlestick with seven candle holders) in the center of the room, with seven candles now burning.
Standing again, I said, "This is indeed a sad day, for we have lost our Master. We may never see him again. He is dead! Mourn, weep and cry, for he is gone."
Then I asked the officers to extinguish the candles in the large Menorah. One by one they rose, walked to the center of the room, extinguished a selected candle and left the room.
Finally, with only the center candle still burning, I arose, walked sadly to the Menorah and extinguished the last candle - the candle representing the life of Jesus, our "Most Wise and Perfect Master." We had dramatized and commemorated the snuffing out of the life of Jesus, without once mentioning his name, and the scene ended with the room in deep silent darkness. I walked out of the room, leaving only the darkness and the stillness of death.
Once again, the single word best to describe it would be "black."
All through the service I was shaking and sick. I have never felt so sad. I had stumbled over the words but, somehow, I made it to the completion of the ceremony and went back to the dressing room. I still didn't know much about praying but felt that I had been sustained by the Lord through it all.
THE FINAL PARTING

Back in the dressing room we hung up our black, hooded robes, put our street clothes back on and prepared to leave. Less than two hours had passed since I arrived. But what had happened in that period of time had changed my life forever.
Still sick in my heart, I changed clothes without a word to anyone. The others asked me what was wrong. But I couldn't reply.
They reminded me that I had acted as Wise Master so many times before, that I was known for my smooth performance of it, and they asked what had gone wrong.
I was choking on the awful reality of what we had said and done, the way we had blasphemed the Lord, and the evil, black mockery we had made of His pure and selfless death. With weeping welling up within me. I could only shake my head in silence and walk out.
Mike was waiting for me at the door, expecting to get a ride home, and he asked, "What's the matter, Jim? Are you sick?"
Finally able to speak, I quietly replied, "No, Mike, I'm just sick of all this."
"IT ISN'T RIGHT"

I started down the wide steps in front of the large Scottish Rite Temple, realization and conviction growing within me, reached the bottom step and stopped. Turning around, I looked back at the huge, granite building and slowly studied the words, carved in the stone across the top of the entrance: "ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED SCOTTISH RITE OF FREEMASONRY."
Something came clearly into focus in my understanding and I made a decision. This crisis point in my life, one which had required so many years for me to reach, passed in seconds. The truth was revealed and the choice was made - a choice that would be the difference between darkness and light, death and life, one that would last for eternity. Looking up at those words I had walked under so many times, words of which I had been so proud, I spoke to myself out loud. It was as if I were the only man in the world as I heard myself say, slowly and deliberately, "It isn't ancient, it isn't Scottish, it isn't free, and it isn't right!"
INTO THE LIGHT

I turned away and walked into the parking lot, knowing that I would never return. As I walked into the deepening darkness of that springtime night, I was walking into the growing light of the living God. As the natural darkness closed around me, the supernatural light welled up within me. With every step I took, as the Temple receded behind me, I was more free.
"I will never return," I thought with each step. "I will never return, I will never return...."
The decision was made, the die was cast. From that night onward I would serve the true and living God, not the Great Architect of the Universe. I would exalt and learn of Him, not Osiris, Krishna or Demeter. I would seek and follow Jesus, not the will--the-wisp of "hidden wisdom."
I was walking, after such a long time, out of the darkness and into the light.
Footnote
1 This statement is an interesting contradiction with the Temple it adorns, as well as with the thousands of other such Masonic temples built around the World at a total cost of many billions of dollars.
A PERSONAL WORD FROM JIM

As this true story is closed, I would be greatly remiss if I did not make it clear that in my pre-Christian life I truly loved Freemasonry. I loved the men with whom I was associated in the Lodge and the men with whom I worked so hard in the degrees and bodies of the Scottish Rite. Most of all, I was so very sure that I was doing what was right and pleasing in the sight of the Great Architect of the Universe.
Never in all my years of dedicated service to Masonry did anyone in the Lodge witness to me about the love and saving grace of Jesus. The Lodge attended a church once each year as a group. Each time the pastor (who was himself a Mason) would introduce us to the congregation and then exalt the Craft, telling them about all our wonderful works. We usually left the church thinking of how wonderful we were and feeling sorry for all those in the church who were not Masons, participating in all our good deeds.
After having been witnessed to by my ophthalmologist for some time I read those simple, wonderful words of Jesus, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me hath everlasting life." These words, so short and so sweet, went right through my heart. I looked in the Bible for more and I found blessed assurance everywhere I looked. Jesus the Christ, the Son of God, really loved me as a real Brother! He will do the same for you.
- Jim Shaw


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What he did was disrespectful also but I came late to the thread. Your clearly an intelligent man you shouldn't get down to those lows, but its getting to a point where its almost about race, mine is better than your etc. Thats not productive.

I was born Irish Catholic, I live in England I have had to defend my culture and my people with fist and words as has generations of my ancestors so I know how it feels.

And I'm not disagreeing with what your saying in any form, I'm just saying a jaw line isn't outright proof of anything. Again I'm not disagreeing with you.

As far as I'm concerned god is good and no matter what you call him or how you worship him as long as you live a good life, for the sake of living a good life and not for rewards in death then god will embrace you.

These discussions are good, its good to celebrate different cultures and their achievements I love learning about history and culture its a passion of mine but its not good to look down on people.

Siochan leat (Irish for peace be with you) ;)



oK, COOL I CAN RESPECT THAT ^5

Peace be upon you
 
that's not true, you will find literally 100s of pyramids in Asia, especially in China.

in Sudan, the Merove built the pyramids, long before those in today's Egypt were built.


I have to agree with you on that 100% as I said before African's venture out and Pyramids are on almost all the earth, we know they aren't on Antartica lol hahahaha

I have a Video where one was found in Turkey I believe. I have to get that, don't quote me on that, I will look for it. Plus Africa people were in China also.
 
THERE IS NO MAN NAMED JESUS CHRIST I WILL SHOW YOU AGAIN!

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FROM THIS BOOK
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MORE PROOF?

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Now I gave two sources. If the Greeks translated supposely from the Hebrew-Aramaic and the Greeks called him Iesous, why are we calling him Jesus? WHO GAVE PEOPLE PERMISSION TO CHANGE HIS NAME? I am giving proof out of the Bible it's self they didn't call him Jesus. So TECHNICALLY JESUS DON'T EXIST!

THIS IS A INDIA SCRIPT TRANSLATED WHEN THE SON OF MARY VISITED THEM FOR THOSE MISSING YEARS HE SPENT WITH THEM!

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Now if he went to India and they have his name as Isa Masi, meaning Isa Krst/Christ then he must of told them his name was Isa, not Jesus!
 
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Evolution of the Name Jesus[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Hebrew name Yehoshua[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Etymology is the study of word origins and how those words change in meaning and pronunciation over time. In Jewish thought, a name was never a random combination of sounds. A name was meant to convey the nature, essence, history, and reputation of the thing named. The importance of the power in a name is illustrated when Moses asked God what his "name" was. God told Moses he was the God of his ancestors and that he would save his people from bondage. God said "I am who am" (which sounds like "Yahweh"). God then said "This is my name forever, this is my name for all generations" (Exodus 3:11-15).[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The basic root name of Jesus comes from the Hebrew name HO-SH-U-A (Joshua) meaning "Salvation." But "salvation" was only half the essence of his name. The full essence of the name Jesus comes from the story of Twelve Scouts when Moses gave Hoshea his new name "Yeho-shua," meaning "Yahweh-is-Salvation" [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]"The Lord said to Moses, send men to scout the land of Caanan, which I am giving to the Israelites. Send one man from each tribe, all of them princes. So Moses sent them from the desert of Paran as the Lord had ordered. All were leaders among the Israelites. By name they were ... Shammua, Shaphat, Caleb, Igal, Gaddiel, Gaddi, Hoshea, Palti, Ammiel, Sethur, Nahbi, and Geuel (this quote leaves out the father & tribe names). These are the names of the men who Moses sent out to scout the land. But Ho-shea, son of Nun, Moses called Yeho-shua" (Num 13:1-16).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]As you can see, Hebrew names always had a meaning and a history in the Old Testament. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The early Christians pointed to Mose's authority to "make up names" when titles and names were given to Jesus or when Jesus "made up names" for his twelve disciples (Mk 3:13-19). The genius of the Greek names of Christianity was in their hidden meaning ... all the major names and titles of Jesus and his disciples were related in some way or another to the isopsephia value of Jesus. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]By the 5th Century BC the name YEHOSHUA was shortened to YESHUA (see Neh. 8:17). By the 1st century AD, probably due to Greek influence, the name YESHUA was shortened twice more ... first to Y'SHUA, and then again to Y'SHU. The Y'shu form seems be a deliberate attempt by orthodox Jews of that time to express their displeasure to the name of Jesus, the recently arrived Greek Christian God who was trying to seduce Jews away from their religion.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Greek name Ihsous[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]When the Greeks wanted to turn a Hebrew name into a Greek name there were two ways to bring it across the language barrier. One way was by translation, which tries to capture the meaning of a word ... but in the process, loses it's sound. The other way was by transliteration, which tries to capture the sound of the Hebrew word ... but in the process, loses it's meaning.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Let's look at the most probable scenario of how the four Hebrew letters in the name Y'-Sh-U-A (Yod-Shin-Vav-Ayin) were transliterated to Koine Greek. [/FONT]​
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The first Hebrew letter YOD has a “YE” sound. Unfortunately, the Greek language does not have a letter nor a diphthong that has the "Y" sound as in YES! The Greek solution was to pair the two letters IOTA-ETA to produce the sound “EE-AY” which was deemed to be close enough to the Hebrew sound "YE." [/FONT]​
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The second Hebrew letter SHIN has the "SH" sound. This was an even bigger problem because the "SH" sound does not exist in Greek. The Greek solution was to employ the "S" sound made by the letter SIGMA. [/FONT]​
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The third Hebrew letter Vav has a "U" sound. The Greek diphthong "ou" OMICRON-UPSILON is an exact match because it has the same "OO" sound.[/FONT]​
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The fourth Hebrew letter AYIN has the "AH" sound. According to the Greek rules of grammar, masculine names never end in a vowel sound, and when they do, the name should always be closed with the letter "S" whenever possible. The Greek solution was to drop the final "AH" sound and close out the name with an "S."[/FONT]​
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]These four steps produce the name “Iesous” (IhsouV) which is pronounced "EE-AY-SOOS."[/FONT] The name Jesus now has an isopsehia value of "888" units which conjured up the "888" power structure of the whole Greek alphabet.​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Joshua is mentioned two times in the New Testament (Acts 7:45; Heb 4:8), and in both places the Greek text spells his name "IhsouV" ... the same as Jesus. The original Hebrew translation of the name of Yeho (Yahweh) - shua (saves) is alluded to in the following gospel passage where an angel of the Lord tells Joseph what to name his future son: "you are to name him Iesous because he will save his people from their sins" (Matt 1:21). This passage shows Matthew knew that the first two vowel sounds (ee-ay) in the name of Jesus were meant to be a transliteration of the vowel sounds in the name Yahweh, the almighty monotheistic God of the Hebrews. The gospel of John echoed that knowledge by having Jesus say "I come in the name of my Father" (John 5:43). The last syllable in the name of Jesus (eeay-soos) was probably recognized by the Greeks for it's similarity to the name Zeus (dzoos), the most powerful God in the polytheistic Greek pantheon. Putting the two word plays together, the name Ee-ay-sous oozed with supernatural power because that name implies "Yahweh-Zeus." [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Latin name Iesus[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The entire New Testament was written in “Koiné” or common Greek, but as the gospel spread into areas where Greek was not spoken, missionaries made translations in other languages such as Coptic, Slavic, and Latin. By the end of the second century many different Latin versions were in circulation. In 382 Jerome translated a standardized Latin Bible called the “Vulgate,” or common Bible. The Latin Bible transliterated the Greek name of Jesus by bringing across all of the Greek sounds in his name. His name was written as "IESUS." The Latin spelling differed from the Greek because the two alphabets are not identical. The Latin pronunciation however was still identical to the Greek "ee-ay-soos." Theodosus made Christianity the official religion of the Roman empire in 391. Jerome's Latin Vulgate soon became the undeclared “official” text of the Roman Church. The Council of Toulouse in 1229 made the Latin Bible official by "expressly forbidding it's translation into vulgar tongues." In 1234 the Council of Tarragona declared: "No person except a cleric may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments and if anyone is found to possess them he must be turned over to the local bishop so that he may be burned at the stake" The Latin spelling and pronunciation of Iesus dominated the Western Christian world for almost 1,000 years.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The English name Jesus[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Norman invasion of 1066 introduced the letter "j" to England but the sound of the letter did not exist in the Old English language until the early 1200's. Over the next 300 years the hard "J" sound started to replace male names that began with I or Y because it sounded so masculine. Names like Iames became "James," Iakob became Jacob, and Yohan became "John." During the time the letter J was starting to gain acceptance, John Wycliffe became the first person to translate the New Testament from Latin into English in 1384. He preserved the Latin spelling and pronunciation of IESUS but his translation was unread by the common man because only a few hand-written copies of his Bible were produced which were quickly banned by the Church. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]When Gutenburg invented the printing press the Latin Vulgate Bible became the first book ever printed in 1455. The first printed bible in a foreign tongue was the German Mentel Bible of 1466 followed by the Martin Luther bible of 1522. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]After William Tyndale was denied permission to print an English bible he went to visit Martin Luther and [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]completed his translation of the New Testament in 1525. Tyndale had 18,000 copies printed at Worms and smuggled into England of which only two copies survive. After printing his revised edition of 1534 he was captured in Belgium, tried for heresy by order of the pope, and put to death in 1536 by strangulation after which his body was burned at the stake. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]By the year 1611 the letter "J" was officially part of the English languge and the King James Bible was printed along with pronunciation guides for all proper names like Jesus, Jew, Jeremiah, Jerusalem, Judah, and John. The name "Jesus" has been in use ever since. [/FONT]​
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Stop spreading lies DaNoc. Just because the first letter of his name was changed doesn't mean his didn't exist. You just got owned. In that picture of biblican text you showed above, their is also a name Iacob. Why didn't you explain this one, lol.
 
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didn't you say you would stop posting?

sheesh, can't even live up to your own prophecies
 
it's funny you say that, with intelligence you hit it on the head. The Jehovah Witnesses said the world would end in 1975, what year is it now? The world was suppose to end in 2000, computer shut down etc, what year are we in? The Bible is in direct contradiction of the world ending and it not ending to be everlasting. I have to get those verses because I don't have them here. But no one knows the hour, even if will be an hour. We as people have been here for millions of years. hmmmmmmmmmmm


If you beleive in the new testament of the bible, you beleive no man can predict the end of the world. Again, I stress, I'm not trying to tell anyone what to beleive.

As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. - Matthew 24:37
 
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Evolution of the Name Jesus[/FONT]
Stop spreading lies DaNoc. Just because the first letter of his name was changed doesn't mean his didn't exist. You just got owned. In that picture of biblican text you showed above, their is also a name Iacob. Why didn't you explain this one, lol.
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oH THERE YOU GO AGAIN, LIES? Dude I just showed you what I already said and you went disappeared and come back with that? I already said it and I ASK YOU THIS, SHOW ME WHERE THERE IS A "J" LETTER IN HEBREW! YOU POSTING ALL THAT JUST MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND TO CALL ME A LIAR? THEN YOU LAUGH? I WILL SAY IT AGAIN THERE IS NO RECORD OF A MAN NAMED JESUS! GO AND GET THE ORIGINAL HEBREW TEXT AND SHOW ME HIS NAME!

IT'S MORE THAN THE FIRST LETTER, what are you talking about? His name went from Yeshu'a to Iesous to Jesus? and you said it's just the first letter? are you kidding me? You haven't proven nothing! All you proved was I WAS RIGHT, yet you sit here and call The Son of Mary name Jesus! Muhammad's name is Muhammad in German, French, English, Hebrew, etc it never changes and so should his! I was trying to be nice to know you were on that level but I see you're not. I bet you continue to call him Jesus too!


THIS IS THE HEBREW ALPHABET SHOW ME WHERE THE LETTER J EXIST!
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The Son of Mary is suppose to be a Hebrew-Isreal-Jew right? So they spoke Hebrew Aramaic. Am I lying? Proof?

Bible:
Jhn 20:16 NIV - Jesus said to her, "Mary." She turned toward him and cried out in Aramaic, "Rabboni!" (which means Teacher).

He answered back so he must of knew how to speak Aramaic!

Acts 26:12-15 NIV
12 “On one of these journeys I was going to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests. 13 About noon, O king, as I was on the road, I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, blazing around me and my companions. 14 We all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic, ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’
15 “Then I asked, ‘Who are you, Lord?’
“‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,’ the Lord replied

So I ask show me the "J' in the alphabet!
 
Of course their is no J in the Hebrew text. The J comes from the English text. Duh. Did you even read what I posted, LOL. The J was added because of the translation to English.:rolleyes:
 
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If you beleive in the new testament of the bible, you beleive no man can predict the end of the world. Again, I stress, I'm not trying to tell anyone what to beleive.

Ok, being you said that, didn't Elohim the Creator said he wouldn't do that to the people again?

I have to ask you then explain this to me.

"Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. " -- Matthew 16:28

"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. " -- Luke 21:32-33


So STANDING HERE, ON EARTH WHICH SHALL NOT TASTE DEATH, MEANS THE EARTH WON'T BE DESTROYED. SO I ask will the earth be destroyed or not? This could be a good topic

On the contrary no I don't believe in the New Testament, I believe in the Gospel of Yeshu'a Son of Mary, he himself never taught a New Testament, he made that clear in the Bible. The New Testament is made up by the Council of Nicea in 325ad
 
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Of course their is no J in the Hebrew text. The J comes from the English text. Duh. Did you even read what I posted, LOL.

yes I read what you posted. SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT OF POSTING Is what I am trying to figure out.

THERE IS NO MAN BY THE NAME OF JESUS!

The Correct name would be Yeshu'a Ben Maryium or Isa Ibn Maryum! Case closed!


The Evolution of the Name Jesus


Why are people Evolutionizing that man's name? You change the name you change the History, you change the history you beguile people!
 
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