mpc 60II or ensoniq eps??? i need xpert advise.

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jahrome said:


Do worry about floppies. By your equipment choice..it appears that you want to sample. It is a pain in the butt to save samples to floppies. You can possibly end of with several floppies for just one song. I would never use the floppy drive of my MPC 3000. I use an external scsi zip drive...it is like 70-150 floppies on one zip disk.

Now the latest modern samplers have added USB in addition to/or to replace SCSI.

Also, SCSI is lightning fast compared to saving/loading to floppy.

Off hand, I can't think of any piece of equipment that was released lately with just a floppy drive..even many new computers don't have floppy drives.
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I see what you're saying, and completely agree for newer samplers. But with an old EPS, you're really never going to have more than one floppy worth of samples at any given time.

SCSI is awesome. But no need to have an aneurysm if you don't have SCSI.
 
I see what you're saying, and completely agree for newer samplers. But with an old EPS, you're really never going to have more than one floppy worth of samples at any given time.
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So we can inform this gentleman...what is the EPS maximum sample time? And how much of its samples can fit on a disk?

I never used the EPS..but for my MPC 3000 which only holds 32 MB...it will take several disks to hold a fraction of that..that is why SCSI is the best choice.
 
The EPS has 480K base memory, expandable to 2.1 MB. At base memory, you're looking at 5 seconds of sample time at the maximum sample rate. But since you like your samples dirty, you'll probably be using half of that sample rate, so let's say 10 seconds.

The EPS-16+ has 1 MB base memory, expandable to 2 MB. 11.5 seconds at max sample rate with base memory.

One double-density floppy holds 720K, so at most you're going to need 3... maybe 4 disks to hold everything in memory, and that's ONLY with maximum memory. With base memory, one or two disks will be fine.
 
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my eps has the 2x memory expander.

when i lower the samping rate to 22khz I have 59 seconds of mono sampling time.


you may say. "but this lowers sound quality!".

my answer is not hardley. The eps sounds great, even @ lower frequencies.

even with expanded memeory, you will never need more than 2-3 floppies.

the sequencer isn't great, but is usable.

the oex expander. Expands the outputs to a total of 10.

I have an ensoniw studio set up. that consits of an asr 10, eps, and eps/m rack mout. Sequenced using cubase 5.1 on an old mac g3. I love this setup.


so, IMO you don't need to worry about scsi on an eps. It is just not necesssary. However, it is easy to find one with scsi already added.

the output expander will come in handy w/ your mixer.

and, by the way. the newest peice of gear to sport a floppy is the roland mv8000, kurzwiel 2600, also the mpc4000 supports usb floppy.

the eps is a truely great sounding sampler, that is very feature rich.

just taking into account the sampler.(not the sequencer) I would choose an eps, over an mpc2000 any day.
 
and, by the way. the newest peice of gear to sport a floppy is the roland mv8000, kurzwiel 2600, also the mpc4000 supports usb floppy.
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:)

There are plenty of gear that don't use floppies anymore. My point is...if you are going to invest is this older gear..A SCSI port will make your life easier. No, you don't need it..but why use a floppy disk (which are almost obsolete)when you can use an external stoarge medium which holds 70X plus as more info on a single disk.

Akai was smart enough to not put an onboard floppy drive in the new MPC 1000, 2000XL, and the 4000. New gear that have floppy drive support also have SCSI, USB, or IDE capabilities to be used for storing your material...

Why someone would convince you not to get an EPS (or any other older piece of gear) without SCSI is beyond me..maybe they just want company :)
 
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no one is trying to diss prove you.

I was just stating an opinion.

with the older gear(mpc 60 & eps) I preffer to use floppies.


opinions are like butt holes, everybody has one.
 
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but.....


Lets say you make 100 songs...that can equate to 100-300 floppies. That will take up an enormous amount of storage space. With the SCSI Zip disk..you can get all of this on 1 or 2 disks..which is nothing to store.

Next 2 my MPC, I have a stack of 10 zip disks. This stack is 2.5 inches high. I can store 700 floppies on these zip disks. Many of us on this site are upstart producers with very limited space. Where can one store 700 floppies.

I am just showing how a SCSI drive can make your life simpler once you build a collection of material.
 
i jus wanna kno where you're planning on gettin the mpc 60 and the ensoniq eps? how much are they running for? i rly rly want an mpc 60 or either the asr-10, eps, or eps 16
 
I will ask my question in this thread since some people seem to be working with eps

What are the advantages of having a eps
instead of having a software sampler (expept that you dont need a cpu with hardware samplers)

I ask this beacause I saw an eps at a store for 250$...
 
Visit www.prepal.com to see the average prices people are paying online for certain pieces of gear. This is a goo place to start.

eBay will always be a good place to start your search for gear.
 
so am i good with an
ensoniq eps
turntable
either dj mixer or phono-pre
mixer
and a recording medium like a cassette deck?

is this all i need to get started making some beats?

oh and using headphones, dont have money for speakers, yet

also, what should i use as my recording medium?.. this is what i am confused about the most... can somebody please help me out and give me suggestions on what should i get to record my beats to?


thanks
peace
 
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