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Jonny Thrice
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the M44G is made for mixing, the M447 is made for scratchign...so if you dont scratch, the G is the way to go 
I have M44G's (I spin techno/house). Its a sweet cart.
The main differences between the two are their outputs...the M447 has a higher output, but a lower overall quality in sound...the M44G has a lower output, but a better quality sound, with smoother bass, mids and highs...a better balanced sound.
AFAIK, the only physical difference is the stylus itself, so if you put an M44G stylus on an M447 cart, it should turn into an M44G. but I could be wrong....
I have M44G's (I spin techno/house). Its a sweet cart. The main differences between the two are their outputs...the M447 has a higher output, but a lower overall quality in sound...the M44G has a lower output, but a better quality sound, with smoother bass, mids and highs...a better balanced sound.
AFAIK, the only physical difference is the stylus itself, so if you put an M44G stylus on an M447 cart, it should turn into an M44G. but I could be wrong....
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Peasant Nikon
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The 44 series stylii are interchangable. Both carts offer great skip resistance. The sound quality of the G is better. However, if you are just mixing, and you are a sound quality head, go for the m35x. They are cheaper too...
-Peasant Nikon
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Jonny Thrice
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yeah...I've heard that the 35 sounds pretty good too 
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SoEasy
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The G and the 7 are interchangable. The cart just holds the suspension and contacts. They're identical to each other.
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konsoul
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ive got a pair of m44gs on my TTX1s and they are great. the sound is a boatload better than the 7s and they are great for scratching too. mine do not skip at all with about 2.75 grams of weight on them.
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cosmique
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Cool! So now I know that I can buy a stylus for the M44G and put it into the M44-7 cart, but on the needlz.com web site it says that the M44-7 stylus almost doesn't wear records (record wear: ultra low) and the M44G is very low... does that really means that M44-7 needle wears records less than the M44G needle? And what is the difference in sound quality between these two styli? is it really significant? Thanks. 
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Jonny Thrice
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the difference in sound quality is pretty large....whereas the 7 is made for scratching, the G is made for mixing, and therefore will sound better when using it for techno/trance/house etc...The 7 is purely a scratch needle, and therefore gives up a bit in overall sound quality.
so yeah, you'd want the G
the difference in record wear is negligible...BOTH are very low wearing needles...you have nothing to worry about Just keep your tracking force reasonable...I think mines at 1.5g, which is the max. recommended
so yeah, you'd want the G
the difference in record wear is negligible...BOTH are very low wearing needles...you have nothing to worry about
Just keep your tracking force reasonable...I think mines at 1.5g, which is the max. recommended
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cosmique
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I guess, in the case of M35X and SC35C carts, the needles for these two carts are also interchangable right? Thanks... 
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TypeSiK
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i have the 7s... my friend had G's on his Numark Pro TT1s and they would skip like crazy.. dunno if it was just his tables or what.. im assuming it was just his tables... I'd recommend either of the two choices, but as everyone else says, 7s are scratching, and Gs are for mixing.. i mix/scratch with my 7s
o/t: i tried out the Stanton Trackmaster IIs... and i didnt like them much, went right back to my M447s...
o/t: i tried out the Stanton Trackmaster IIs... and i didnt like them much, went right back to my M447s...
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Deft
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If you aren't going to be scratching much then get some m35x's. They sound a lot smoother than the 44g, hold well and are kind to your records.
If you aren't going to be scratching much then get some m35x's. They sound a lot smoother than the 44g, hold well and are kind to your records.
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enthusiast
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9 years later..
Ok sorry for reviving this thread, but there are unanswered questions present, which I could provide an answer for. I got the M44G on my TTX and on the Technics 1210s. Never tried the M447, but compared to an Ortofon DJ cartridge (the blue one with orange print).
Shure M44G vs M447
From my understanding the main difference of the M44G and M447 is the output of 9mV (Gs) vs 11mV (7s). The other main difference is the amount of weight you have to put on each cartridge in order for it to be skip-resistance. M44G are supposed to hold track with 3 grams (DJ setting in the Shure manual) and the M447 needs only 1.5 grams. I can atest that you need at least 2.5 grams on the M44G IF you mount it normally. If you use the "unorthodox" angled method as it is described in the Shure manual, 2g may be enough, because the tracking forces to left and right, when scratching should be less in that aligned setup, at least that's what I'm thinking.
Ortofon and Audio Technicas
I tried the Ortofon DJ and they are very usable for scratching, too, however I always felt the record wear on those was higher, because the needle is hard-mounted into the cartridge whereas with the Shures, it isn't. The Ortofon Pro (elliptic) I tried to, and it skips like heck when scratching. I also tried the Stanton 680 and the Audio Technica AT91 MM (spherical), both have a very sweet, clear sound, but will skip more often than the Shure's.
The cartridges on different Turntables
Last, but not least, the Numark's are heavy-build, high-quality turntables, which I would recommend in an instant, however they have a lighter construction where it counts: On the tonearm. I tested Numark TTX USB and the Stanton 150 ST-150, which is an absolute tank and a very nice Turntable indeed. However, again the tonearm mount is flimsy compared to the 1210. Only the Technics 1210 offers a tonearm mount that is able to create absolut confidence. I doubt that we will ever see such a tonearm again, at least for under 2000 USD/EUR. And exactly this is the reason why the Shure's do hold a tad better on a Technics. So you can use 0.5g less on a Technics. Having said that, learning to scratch on a Technics is harder, because the drive is really weak compared to latest models from other manufacturers.
Conclusion
The M44G seem to me the better overall deal than the M447 in terms of sound quality and scratchability. I am switching music styles often. However if you are a pure scratch-head, the M447 will offer less record wear, because it needs less weight. The AT91 or AT95 for only 20 bucks are the best bang for buck if you want to digitalize your records. They are worth a try.
Ok sorry for reviving this thread, but there are unanswered questions present, which I could provide an answer for. I got the M44G on my TTX and on the Technics 1210s. Never tried the M447, but compared to an Ortofon DJ cartridge (the blue one with orange print).
Shure M44G vs M447
From my understanding the main difference of the M44G and M447 is the output of 9mV (Gs) vs 11mV (7s). The other main difference is the amount of weight you have to put on each cartridge in order for it to be skip-resistance. M44G are supposed to hold track with 3 grams (DJ setting in the Shure manual) and the M447 needs only 1.5 grams. I can atest that you need at least 2.5 grams on the M44G IF you mount it normally. If you use the "unorthodox" angled method as it is described in the Shure manual, 2g may be enough, because the tracking forces to left and right, when scratching should be less in that aligned setup, at least that's what I'm thinking.
Ortofon and Audio Technicas
I tried the Ortofon DJ and they are very usable for scratching, too, however I always felt the record wear on those was higher, because the needle is hard-mounted into the cartridge whereas with the Shures, it isn't. The Ortofon Pro (elliptic) I tried to, and it skips like heck when scratching. I also tried the Stanton 680 and the Audio Technica AT91 MM (spherical), both have a very sweet, clear sound, but will skip more often than the Shure's.
The cartridges on different Turntables
Last, but not least, the Numark's are heavy-build, high-quality turntables, which I would recommend in an instant, however they have a lighter construction where it counts: On the tonearm. I tested Numark TTX USB and the Stanton 150 ST-150, which is an absolute tank and a very nice Turntable indeed. However, again the tonearm mount is flimsy compared to the 1210. Only the Technics 1210 offers a tonearm mount that is able to create absolut confidence. I doubt that we will ever see such a tonearm again, at least for under 2000 USD/EUR. And exactly this is the reason why the Shure's do hold a tad better on a Technics. So you can use 0.5g less on a Technics. Having said that, learning to scratch on a Technics is harder, because the drive is really weak compared to latest models from other manufacturers.
Conclusion
The M44G seem to me the better overall deal than the M447 in terms of sound quality and scratchability. I am switching music styles often. However if you are a pure scratch-head, the M447 will offer less record wear, because it needs less weight. The AT91 or AT95 for only 20 bucks are the best bang for buck if you want to digitalize your records. They are worth a try.
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