Lil wayne vocal effect

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Yeh there is a difference between Autotune and Vocoders...try using the two different effects and you will know what the difference is. ever use a microkorg? Thats a vocoder.
Lil Wayne/T-Pain/Lil-Pain/T-Wayne, they all use an Autotune type effect. California Love, for example I am pretty sure was using a Vocoder.
 
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don't confuse cheezy dynamic pitch-shifting (autotune), proper dynamic pitch shifting (melodyne), vocoders, talk-boxes and other robot-fx (for example 2 static pitch shifters pitching against each other, so that you only hear artifacts, but no pitching. or extreme vibrato or tremolo fx).

these are all completely different things.
 
vocoder, talkbox, autotune, whatever.

It's been around forever, used by stevie wonder and peter frampton in the 70's, roger and zapp in the 80's and completely ruined by t-pain and wayne now!!!

They are making bull**** that people have no choice but to except because there ain't much that's better.

its used by britney spears and other non singers to lined the voice up, when its off key.

so when you hear someone and they sound like a robot, that means they didn't hit the note right.

TPain sounds like a robot the whole damn album, so you be the judge!
 
THENUMBERTOO said:
vocoder, talkbox, autotune, whatever.

It's been around forever, used by stevie wonder and peter frampton in the 70's, roger and zapp in the 80's and completely ruined by t-pain and wayne now!!!
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no problem with your general critic about current music trends, but that's crap at it's best.
 
THENUMBERTOO said:
vocoder, talkbox, autotune, whatever.

It's been around forever, used by stevie wonder and peter frampton in the 70's, roger and zapp in the 80's and completely ruined by t-pain and wayne now!!!

They are making bull**** that people have no choice but to except because there ain't much that's better.

its used by britney spears and other non singers to lined the voice up, when its off key.

so when you hear someone and they sound like a robot, that means they didn't hit the note right.

TPain sounds like a robot the whole damn album, so you be the judge!
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Those are three completely different things.
 
THENUMBERTOO said:
TPain sounds like a robot the whole damn album, so you be the judge!
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If your trying to get the effect right.
Use 2 Autotune inserts effects on the same track, running one Autotune into the other.
The first one is for getting the effect, and then use the Global Detune knob to detune about 25cents, then that one is ran into the next Autotune with the same settings.
Getting more of the effect.

So if you have someone singing in tune, and not getting much correction for the effect, this is how to ensure you get the effect.
Though Im sure T-Pain is no Boys 2 Men.
 
so what was kraftwerk doing??? was t pain or Lil Wayne even born back then ?? LOL... That's like saying Flash should get a buck for every time a record used scratchin...Even though he may deserve it the technology( Ie turntable) was clearly there for all to use at the time Just because someone or something is popular at any giving time that don't make them or it right...Besides popularity like inspiration comes and goes only perspiration leaves a stain hahaha..
 
John Smooth said:
Hahahaha, I could not stop laughing when I read about that interview! Now I really feel old. OK this is for the younger heads here. T- Pain did not find, invent or even commercialize that voice effect. First of all its called a "vocoder". The name changes from program to program but that's what it is. It comes back in use about every 10 years. Others that have used it before a T- Pain have been Dr. Dre(callifornia love),Snoop, Cher,Teddy Riley(mid to late 80's), And the man that actually put it on the map in the 70's and 80's Roger Troutman. There was a time when absolutely NO ONE could use that effect but him. Whew, I'm glad I could get that off my chest. Back to the laughing.

Peace

JS
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I know im really late on this lol but on california love wasn't that a talkbox used?
 
TPain-Lil Wayne: Autotune/Melodyne, other pitch correction type software... and have probably moved on to a hardware version of pitch correction. Like a TC Helicon unit.
Snoop Dog: "Sexual Seduction" In his video, he shows himself using a talkbox type setup with a keyboard...but it was done using extreme pitch correction software(Autotune/Melodyne/Other)....it really pissed off a lot of talkboxers....because to be good with the talkbox, you have to put in work, learn the keyboard/piano, some music theory.

Cher's song "Believe": Not done with autotune, even the makers of Atares Autotune and Autotune EFX have it wrong...
Read on this page under "Set the desired effect type"
http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-efx.shtml

"Hard EFX is the classic Auto-Tune Vocal Effect popularized by T-Pain, Cher and many, many others."

This is how it was done: "Recording Cher's Believe"
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb99/articles/tracks661.htm

Though, there is believed to be a conspiracy regarding Cher's song Believe.
Eiffel '65's song "Blue Da Ba Dee", on wikipedia, under paragraph title:
Music structure and composition
The song's(referring to "Da Ba Dee") distorted vocals were composed using a vocoder[2]. There has also been a noted similarity between the distorted vocals of "Blue (Da Ba Dee)" and "Believe" by Cher[2]. The distorted vocals of "Believe" were composed with the auto-tune effect although the producers of "Believe" went to great lengths to protect their "trade secret" by attributing the vocal sound to other technologies when interviewed.

Talkbox:
Roger Troutman, "California Love"
NB Ridaz, pretty much all their tracks have the talkbox....
Effect done using a horn driver, and a tube that is inserted in the mouth. Different notes are played via keyboard, which changes the pitch of the sound coming out the tube. The horn drivers sound goes through the tube, into your mouth. The "talkboxer" with the tube in his mouth, merely lip syncs, or shapes his mouth, as if he were saying the words.

Fingazz: Talkbox for Dummies, Autotune vs Talkbox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRZWucGpG-0

Vocoder:
Collage: "From Here to Eternity"
Daft punk: "Around the World"
Involves the vocoder unit, or plugin. A "carrier signal" which is the synth, and the "modulator", which would be the the vocals"
Depending on the type of vocoder, I will use a plugin as an example, example not typical...you pan the vocal hard right, and the synth hard left, and output those to the Vocoders input. Because the Vododer looks for the Carrier on the right, and the Modulator on the left....You then create a midi track, that will control the vocoder. Hook up a keyboard via midi. You play/record the notes on the midi track. So you are shaping the words, and giving them their pitch,.,, using the keyboard and pitch modulation wheel...
Some vocoder plugins have their own inbuilt synths....some do not require the hard left hard right complex routing. Some are external hardware units..
 
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Does any1 no if u can make ya vocalz drop like nikki minaj'z wuz droppin n da monster TRACK on protoolz
 
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those are the 2 worst things to ever happen to music :\

correction 3 worst things... lil wayne t pain and autotune in general
 
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