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JeanLukPigheart
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lol@you guys not getting Desire Inspire's ironic sarcasm.
@OP
You are 22 (?), yet you sound as if you were living in 1990.
Why do you expect the majors to pay for your dream scenario, when you can make that happen yourself?
Back in those days, you wouldn't even get a top producer for 100k, today, whole albums are being made for less.
The difference is, as well, that the producers back then always brought some new faces/artists to the table, when signing label deals.
What do you have to offer as a bedroom producer?
Or as someone who sends out beat via email and gets paid via PayPal and hears of "his song" being released half a year later?
Where are the songs you produced, the songs you have written, the artists you found, the videos you shot, the webpresences (including marketing) you have built?
YOU GET OUT, WHAT YOU PUT IN.
(disclaimer: in some really rare cases, you get much more out, than you put in.........but you are most probably never be that person)
The only person on this board, who understood the times and tried out new concepts was JTroup. Mind you, not exactly with the ideal concept and still too new of an approach for it to work, but give the man credit, where it's due. He saw Ryan Leslie and thought "ahhhhh, gotcha! That's how the internet works?!"
Most DJing-based producers played clubs. Most instrument-based producers played in bands/toured/worked as recording artists/musicians. Most vocals-based producers either taught singing or sang in several bands/sang background as support for a "headliner", etc...
What does a bedroom producer do to "diversify his bonds"?
Right, he sets up a Soundclick account and waits for the millions to pour in.
You want to send Dr.Dre beats for Detox? He has 400 of them in the vault for that project.
You want to send Kanye beats? He has dozens of them sent by his friends in the industry/other producers/managers/lawyers/labels/people on the street.
You want to send Katy Perry some "pop beats"? She has a couple of songwriters and vocal coaches making sure, she has songs to be released and not "pop beetz".
DISCOVER YOUR OWN ARTISTS OR APPLY FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER THE RADAR AND PUSH THEM TO THE TOP!
Then the doors will open and you'll be able to make money.
No matter the climate the industry is in.
You think anybody tells Hans Zimmer or some guy doing "audio porn" for commercials, that they just need some "free beetz to blow up with" and when the movie or ad "blows up", they gonna pay them? LOL
Dr.Luke (or Lucky Luke, as I call him) doesn't even license his shit like the other industry prostitutes, yet he still asks 100k+ for every song AND GETS IT.
You think Max Martin or Darkchild work for free?
So instead of dreaming of kissing Jimmy Iovine's ass and checks falling from the skies, create your OWN OPERATION.
Your own artists, your own songs, your own web-presence and marketing campaigns, your own GFX/video productions, etc...
At the end of the day, at least you will learn something and when shit doesn't "blow up", you at least did SOMETHING to better your chances.
Sitting in front of an empty mine and complaining about the days of the Gold Rush being over won't do it.
Find your own goldmine.
@OP
You are 22 (?), yet you sound as if you were living in 1990.
Why do you expect the majors to pay for your dream scenario, when you can make that happen yourself?
Back in those days, you wouldn't even get a top producer for 100k, today, whole albums are being made for less.
The difference is, as well, that the producers back then always brought some new faces/artists to the table, when signing label deals.
What do you have to offer as a bedroom producer?
Or as someone who sends out beat via email and gets paid via PayPal and hears of "his song" being released half a year later?
Where are the songs you produced, the songs you have written, the artists you found, the videos you shot, the webpresences (including marketing) you have built?
YOU GET OUT, WHAT YOU PUT IN.
(disclaimer: in some really rare cases, you get much more out, than you put in.........but you are most probably never be that person)
The only person on this board, who understood the times and tried out new concepts was JTroup. Mind you, not exactly with the ideal concept and still too new of an approach for it to work, but give the man credit, where it's due. He saw Ryan Leslie and thought "ahhhhh, gotcha! That's how the internet works?!"
Most DJing-based producers played clubs. Most instrument-based producers played in bands/toured/worked as recording artists/musicians. Most vocals-based producers either taught singing or sang in several bands/sang background as support for a "headliner", etc...
What does a bedroom producer do to "diversify his bonds"?
Right, he sets up a Soundclick account and waits for the millions to pour in.
You want to send Dr.Dre beats for Detox? He has 400 of them in the vault for that project.
You want to send Kanye beats? He has dozens of them sent by his friends in the industry/other producers/managers/lawyers/labels/people on the street.
You want to send Katy Perry some "pop beats"? She has a couple of songwriters and vocal coaches making sure, she has songs to be released and not "pop beetz".
DISCOVER YOUR OWN ARTISTS OR APPLY FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER THE RADAR AND PUSH THEM TO THE TOP!
Then the doors will open and you'll be able to make money.
No matter the climate the industry is in.
You think anybody tells Hans Zimmer or some guy doing "audio porn" for commercials, that they just need some "free beetz to blow up with" and when the movie or ad "blows up", they gonna pay them? LOL
Dr.Luke (or Lucky Luke, as I call him
) doesn't even license his shit like the other industry prostitutes, yet he still asks 100k+ for every song AND GETS IT.You think Max Martin or Darkchild work for free?
So instead of dreaming of kissing Jimmy Iovine's ass and checks falling from the skies, create your OWN OPERATION.
Your own artists, your own songs, your own web-presence and marketing campaigns, your own GFX/video productions, etc...
At the end of the day, at least you will learn something and when shit doesn't "blow up", you at least did SOMETHING to better your chances.
Sitting in front of an empty mine and complaining about the days of the Gold Rush being over won't do it.
Find your own goldmine.
