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Jerzy Piff
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naw he aint from the hood, but he doesn't even rep canada hard. maybe i haven't heard the right stuff from him, but most of his **** to me seems i got money and b!tches.
naw he aint from the hood, but he doesn't even rep canada hard. maybe i haven't heard the right stuff from him, but most of his **** to me seems i got money and b!tches.
Kiddvicious
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So im guessing you only listened to Successful..
Anybody that thinks Drake is commercial fluff obviously never really listened to
Its a revolutionary mixtape.. The only real fluff on the is Best I Ever Had.. other than that Drake makes a lot of real music about real sh!t
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MUSIKFIEND
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Drake is a really good artist. That doesn't mean that i dont think he has been forced down the general public's throat (pause). But unfortunately that's the only way most Lil Wayne, Soulja Boy fans will ever know an artist is alive is if their spoon fed to them. I think their making a big mistake pushing his album back to 2010 though b/c that fan base is extremely fickle & he might be forgotten by then.
At the end of the day he makes great music & that's why i support him.
At the end of the day he makes great music & that's why i support him.
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mosfacekilla
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i didnt know they pushed his album back wow, 2010 is a while from now, and you know how elitist back packers are lol
K-1ne
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So im guessing you only listened to Successful..
Anybody that thinks Drake is commercial fluff obviously never really listened to
Its a revolutionary mixtape.. The only real fluff on the is Best I Ever Had.. other than that Drake makes a lot of real music about real sh!t
This.
He might not rap about slingin or guns, but it doesn't mean that his music doesn't have emotion or substance.
Vote Jai
Dean of Students
There were some good cuts on So Far Gone. But some of it just sounded, well, weird to me.
More power to dude, though. He's another example that this music sh-t is possible. I mean, he was already on TV and stuff, but still. lol
More power to dude, though. He's another example that this music sh-t is possible. I mean, he was already on TV and stuff, but still. lol
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TechnikaL
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Co-sign, I feel this same way.
Drake has been grindin for a minute, just because it feels like he came out of nowhere or has a machine behind him doesn't take away from the fact that he makes good music. And So Far Gone was an incredible mixtape that had the feel of an album.
Even though he is being force fed and seems to have it easier than other new upcoming artists, you have to remember that the label shelled out $2 mill and need to get their money's worth. So force fed is what will happen, just to keep him relevant and larger than life so that he can do big numbers.
It would be great to see an album this year, but early 2010 is enough time for him to do some more good features and set up one or two great singles.
Legal Dollaz
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Universal will attempt to recoup the advance (and other associated costs) mainly through the selling of his singles via iTunes/Amazon/etc...hopefully this will bring them close to a break-even point then whatever the album drops that will be the cherries on top.
He's the only new Hip Hop artist in the business right now that's in position to potentially do well on both the singles side as well as album side which is why he has the whole machine behind him because they need a new poster boy to show that the traditionally music industry still has viability when it comes to NEW artists.
If they don't then eventually other people from outside their system will organize the new talent and become the next Def Jam and unlike the past with Russell Simmons who had little choice but to join forces because they controlled the major distribution channels the new entities can use the Internet to deal directly with the customer thus cutting the majors out and that's a big problem! The issue here is about CONTROL. The majors have the catalog business on lock, no problem with that. The new music is what the battle is for so Drake success is vital.
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Noyzi
Who Want To Battle Me?
everything you see on tv is manufactured... If it wasn't the chicks would look like the bytches around the way and the dudes would dress better... All that Gucci is damn near lame... from a distance it looks like Cocci (coochie)...
F00T
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"Killa" bangs in the whip.....this new Thank Me Now mixtape is solid...
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GimpSpack
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I hear a lot of people using the term "good artist" a lot in this thread, but what does it mean? If your "art" is using overused metaphors, biting fellow artist's swagger (Wayne), and fabricating an unjustifiably boastful image, then yes, Drake is a true "artist." But just because it's "art" doesn't mean there's any substance to it. And there doesn't have to be. After all, it is only entertainment. that said, however, Drake is gonna fall off the map sooner than later, because he has very little substance. So live'em up now, feel his cliche "I wanna **** you girl" singles, and watch him puff his chest out in a vein attempt to look "hard."
I seriously don't hate Drake at all. I actually think he's more tolerable than MOST pop artists (and thats what he is) who are hot right now. I just see his career/image for what it is.
BTW, if you compare Drake's music/career to a rap legend (lets say Eminem for example), you can easily see why he isn't going to last that long. Yes, both artists are "expressing themselves", but one took major risks, pushed the envelope, and kept people guessing, whereas the other one took the "safe" route -- mainly, a radio-friendly air-conditioned approach. People get tired of the "friendly, conditioned" approach very quickly.
God, I love listening to myself talk.
I seriously don't hate Drake at all. I actually think he's more tolerable than MOST pop artists (and thats what he is) who are hot right now. I just see his career/image for what it is.
BTW, if you compare Drake's music/career to a rap legend (lets say Eminem for example), you can easily see why he isn't going to last that long. Yes, both artists are "expressing themselves", but one took major risks, pushed the envelope, and kept people guessing, whereas the other one took the "safe" route -- mainly, a radio-friendly air-conditioned approach. People get tired of the "friendly, conditioned" approach very quickly.
God, I love listening to myself talk.
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TechnikaL
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I think Drake will be around for a long time because he can do both rap and r&b. He's a triple threat when you add his acting. Universal will be caking off dude for a while and he'll be caking too.
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Jerzy Piff
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idk about revolutionary, it was alright. but what tracks on their did he go hard on. unstoppable, lol. him and wayne were just both horrible on that thang and i aint into those slow ballads made for a r&b singer.
MrJames851
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that article is gay as hell
Tha_Remedy
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I've been following Drake since 06' It's not like he just came out of nowhere. He's definitely been on the grind for a while. Dumb article.
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jmatisse
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Same here.
And how can people say that the dont know who he is. Have yall not heard SO FAR GONE, that whole thing was real personal. Track like Successful, The Calm, Say Whats Real !!
Here for those people who still dont think they have an understanding of who he is here it is: Drake is a young dude from Toronto who clearly like women, didnt grow up hard so he aint a thug type dude, and he happens to rap slick. Thats why hes so popular.
Isnt he just like most of us except without the rap career?
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MUSIKFIEND
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For real. Just b/c you wearin Gucci & LV from head to toe doesn't mean you know how to dress. You end looking like a walking billboard & are making dudes richer who look down on you & dont even acknowledge you.
Good meaning i actually enjoy the songs he makes & relate to some of the stuff he's saying.
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Jerzy Piff
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Successful - he said he wants to be successful, not to personal
Say Whats Real - he's still talking bout his $, it aint that personal,
idk mean to make anybody's "struggle" seem small, but he's really complaing about his mom complaining about him wheeling a roll's royce phantom, a 400k car. sounds crazy to me. wish my mom was alive to complain about me wheeling a phantom. what "struggle" does he say thats really personal. even if its something like
i grew up in toronto you know the middle-class
reason that i rap is to get a little ass
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DaBomb
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Man I swear "real hip hop" heads always tryna tell us what's wrong with hip hop. When what's wrong with hip hop is when "real hip hop" heads demand that we inbreed til all our new artists are retarded.they refuse to expand beyond its current place. If you took there stance to rock. It would be the equivalent to someone saying we should have a bunch of chuck berry clones.
I find nothing wrong with him saying he loves r&b more. Does the writer think every rapper listens ONLY to hip hop??? I get the feeling that Kanye doesn't listen to rap anymore. Idk for sure but it sounds like he's expanded his tastes. And that's what every artist should do
As far as a struggle. I'd rather him be real about it rather then fabricate an intricate fairy tale. If you think about it he's big cuz he represents most people. The majority of america is in da middle class not poor. And a lot of the early fans of hip hop have gotten jobs had kids and raised them in the middle class. If hip hop were human there's no way she'd still be livin in the projects.
Sorry for the rant I aint on Drake like that. I'm more frustrated with the elitist air of the article that has been around since the south came up and took the east coat's spot
I find nothing wrong with him saying he loves r&b more. Does the writer think every rapper listens ONLY to hip hop??? I get the feeling that Kanye doesn't listen to rap anymore. Idk for sure but it sounds like he's expanded his tastes. And that's what every artist should do
As far as a struggle. I'd rather him be real about it rather then fabricate an intricate fairy tale. If you think about it he's big cuz he represents most people. The majority of america is in da middle class not poor. And a lot of the early fans of hip hop have gotten jobs had kids and raised them in the middle class. If hip hop were human there's no way she'd still be livin in the projects.
Sorry for the rant I aint on Drake like that. I'm more frustrated with the elitist air of the article that has been around since the south came up and took the east coat's spot
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admbmb
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I like music that doesn't need disclaimers.
"...b-but he got a co-sign from Wayne"
"...but the ladies love him tho..."
"...he'll do big numbers, you'll see..."
"...not all of his songs are fluff..." (by the way, check the chorus of successful - your arguement actually defeats itself)
"...he's not repping his hood, cuz he's actually saying something" (really, what exactly?)
I gave this dude a chance, listened to quite a bit of his stuff. From the beats to the rhymes, the one thing that seems clear - very generic (on some panburger partner ish). Slow motion flow with over emphasis on punchlines and swagger. I really tried to see if there was something was there, but to me, he just doesn't have the "it"factor that makes him stand out as something special. I compare it to the fact that since we don't have any Tyson's out right now, we gotta big up a Klitschko.
There's nothing wrong with questioning artists that are being crammed down your throat. Hip hop is all about acceptance and gaining/earning respect.
"...b-but he got a co-sign from Wayne"
"...but the ladies love him tho..."
"...he'll do big numbers, you'll see..."
"...not all of his songs are fluff..." (by the way, check the chorus of successful - your arguement actually defeats itself)
"...he's not repping his hood, cuz he's actually saying something" (really, what exactly?)
I gave this dude a chance, listened to quite a bit of his stuff. From the beats to the rhymes, the one thing that seems clear - very generic (on some panburger partner ish). Slow motion flow with over emphasis on punchlines and swagger. I really tried to see if there was something was there, but to me, he just doesn't have the "it"factor that makes him stand out as something special. I compare it to the fact that since we don't have any Tyson's out right now, we gotta big up a Klitschko.
There's nothing wrong with questioning artists that are being crammed down your throat. Hip hop is all about acceptance and gaining/earning respect.
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