Ice boy telling the truth about soundclick

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I love it when the older cats do their knowledge dropping posts. Lol
That dollar story = Gold.
Good read so far and I'm surprised he's saying everyone else isn't selling though.
I mean if he can get that cash from EXCLUSIVES how much is a dude like JJ or SSO getting from their 20 buck leases ?
 
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:
^^^I shoulda quoted you on that 1. Why you edit it? That was real talk.
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Yep, what was there is what's going on. All people smiling on the outside ain't smiling on the inside these days.

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[F_or_DEAF] said:
lol...

all the editing...i think it's an addiction at this point - i don't even think he can help it, lmao.

it's a strange phenomenon; unlike i've seen anywhere, ever.
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You'll live.
 
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UpanComer said:
if he can get that cash from EXCLUSIVES how much is a dude like JJ or SSO getting from their 20 buck leases ?
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i'd buy EXCLUSIVES way before i'd buy a non-ex-lic.

but then again, i'd only be an EXCLUSIVE is it was a BUYOUT, and the copyright was 100% transferred to me.
 
Are people that desperate for information that one must be deemed hollywood for not wanting to help others.

I constantly help people on this forum, no i dont shoot videos showing every publishing check i got and displaying my education. But these niggas are frauds, every last one of them. In a world where everybody is trying to make the most money off everybody.. if you truly had a way to market producers, you dont think one of these companies like M-Audio, or one of these VST companies wouldnt enlist these super marketing producers into their ranks?

Just like how the feds dont bother drug dealers who dont make money, if youre REALLY making money, people are going to want a piece of it.

are the sheep that helpless that they need a shepherd? thats what it looks like when i see these producers so desperate for help, little sheep that dont know how to survive. Constantly asking how.

Dudes want the guideline to everything, i've given dudes manuals of success that i've done that i had to learn on my own and by being embarrassed in sessions. People talked shit, people are know it alls.. People can sit and gossip about every artist and every situation but cant even sell a record. Not even one.

couldnt sell a glass of water to man in the desert. like Who helped me? I learned 80% of everything from trial and error, 10% from here and 10% from google. Why are producers so helpless and worthless man.

look youre not going to make it. Period. youre just not. There are producers that are ON that have names and credibility that are barely making it and grasping at straws.. looking like fish out of water.. gasping for breath that barely get work. You? youre not gonna make it. Youre music aint good, you aint gonna make it.

ive been sugar coating this shit since i came back trying to give people hope, alternatives to make money in this industry.. you know why? because ya'll arent good enough to make money amongst those who do in this industry. Your music isnt good.. and even if it is, usually your attitude isnt good.

you want the guide to success written out for you in a little pamphlet DVD combo. for what? nobody does ANYTHING for free, everybody has a different price. I tried to offer people help.

FP is like the NCAA man.

youre not going to make the NBA man. focus on your degree, make sure youre doing good in your classes mr. Junior at VCU.. because youre not going to be in the NBA. As much as its about talent.. its about work ethic.

half these niggas never been in a session with an artist and wouldnt know how to act.

Dudes got all these rules and regulations on what they would accept, how much advance they should get, how much publishing they should receive, you know how i learned? i learned by getting ****ED out of money. so if i got ****ed out of money, why should i give you advice? to save a strangers career that i dont know?

like i said, im not in the business of selling dreams. so stop trying to make a legitimate career out of making music. Its not happening, its a lot of skill that most of you dont have, it takes a lot of patience with most of you dont have.. a lot of luck.. and a lot of money.. again.. which most dont have

look at how many members on FP there are.. now look how many have placements that can bring them revenue

you looking at at least a 1:10000 ratio. You like those odds? man get a job for real. you can still get a music industry job. but get a real job. stop bastardizing this shit turning selling beats into Vector Knives
 
as20gp said:
Are people that desperate for information that one must be deemed hollywood for not wanting to help others.

I constantly help people on this forum, no i dont shoot videos showing every publishing check i got and displaying my education. But these niggas are frauds, every last one of them. In a world where everybody is trying to make the most money off everybody.. if you truly had a way to market producers, you dont think one of these companies like M-Audio, or one of these VST companies wouldnt enlist these super marketing producers into their ranks?

Just like how the feds dont bother drug dealers who dont make money, if youre REALLY making money, people are going to want a piece of it.

are the sheep that helpless that they need a shepherd? thats what it looks like when i see these producers so desperate for help, little sheep that dont know how to survive. Constantly asking how.

Dudes want the guideline to everything, i've given dudes manuals of success that i've done that i had to learn on my own and by being embarrassed in sessions. People talked shit, people are know it alls.. People can sit and gossip about every artist and every situation but cant even sell a record. Not even one.

couldnt sell a glass of water to man in the desert. like Who helped me? I learned 80% of everything from trial and error, 10% from here and 10% from google. Why are producers so helpless and worthless man.

look youre not going to make it. Period. youre just not. There are producers that are ON that have names and credibility that are barely making it and grasping at straws.. looking like fish out of water.. gasping for breath that barely get work. You? youre not gonna make it. Youre music aint good, you aint gonna make it.

ive been sugar coating this shit since i came back trying to give people hope, alternatives to make money in this industry.. you know why? because ya'll arent good enough to make money amongst those who do in this industry. Your music isnt good.. and even if it is, usually your attitude isnt good.

you want the guide to success written out for you in a little pamphlet DVD combo. for what? nobody does ANYTHING for free, everybody has a different price. I tried to offer people help.

FP is like the NCAA man.

youre not going to make the NBA man. focus on your degree, make sure youre doing good in your classes mr. Junior at VCU.. because youre not going to be in the NBA. As much as its about talent.. its about work ethic.

half these niggas never been in a session with an artist and wouldnt know how to act.

Dudes got all these rules and regulations on what they would accept, how much advance they should get, how much publishing they should receive, you know how i learned? i learned by getting ****ED out of money. so if i got ****ed out of money, why should i give you advice? to save a strangers career that i dont know?

like i said, im not in the business of selling dreams. so stop trying to make a legitimate career out of making music. Its not happening, its a lot of skill that most of you dont have, it takes a lot of patience with most of you dont have.. a lot of luck.. and a lot of money.. again.. which most dont have

look at how many members on FP there are.. now look how many have placements that can bring them revenue

you looking at at least a 1:10000 ratio. You like those odds? man get a job for real. you can still get a music industry job. but get a real job. stop bastardizing this shit turning selling beats into Vector Knives
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Great post.

But I will be successful though. :cheers:
 
as20gp said:
Are people that desperate for information that one must be deemed hollywood for not wanting to help others.

I constantly help people on this forum, no i dont shoot videos showing every publishing check i got and displaying my education. But these niggas are frauds, every last one of them. In a world where everybody is trying to make the most money off everybody.. if you truly had a way to market producers, you dont think one of these companies like M-Audio, or one of these VST companies wouldnt enlist these super marketing producers into their ranks?

Just like how the feds dont bother drug dealers who dont make money, if youre REALLY making money, people are going to want a piece of it.

are the sheep that helpless that they need a shepherd? thats what it looks like when i see these producers so desperate for help, little sheep that dont know how to survive. Constantly asking how.

Dudes want the guideline to everything, i've given dudes manuals of success that i've done that i had to learn on my own and by being embarrassed in sessions. People talked shit, people are know it alls.. People can sit and gossip about every artist and every situation but cant even sell a record. Not even one.

couldnt sell a glass of water to man in the desert. like Who helped me? I learned 80% of everything from trial and error, 10% from here and 10% from google. Why are producers so helpless and worthless man.

look youre not going to make it. Period. youre just not. There are producers that are ON that have names and credibility that are barely making it and grasping at straws.. looking like fish out of water.. gasping for breath that barely get work. You? youre not gonna make it. Youre music aint good, you aint gonna make it.

ive been sugar coating this shit since i came back trying to give people hope, alternatives to make money in this industry.. you know why? because ya'll arent good enough to make money amongst those who do in this industry. Your music isnt good.. and even if it is, usually your attitude isnt good.

you want the guide to success written out for you in a little pamphlet DVD combo. for what? nobody does ANYTHING for free, everybody has a different price. I tried to offer people help.

FP is like the NCAA man.

youre not going to make the NBA man. focus on your degree, make sure youre doing good in your classes mr. Junior at VCU.. because youre not going to be in the NBA. As much as its about talent.. its about work ethic.

half these niggas never been in a session with an artist and wouldnt know how to act.

Dudes got all these rules and regulations on what they would accept, how much advance they should get, how much publishing they should receive, you know how i learned? i learned by getting ****ED out of money. so if i got ****ed out of money, why should i give you advice? to save a strangers career that i dont know?

like i said, im not in the business of selling dreams. so stop trying to make a legitimate career out of making music. Its not happening, its a lot of skill that most of you dont have, it takes a lot of patience with most of you dont have.. a lot of luck.. and a lot of money.. again.. which most dont have

look at how many members on FP there are.. now look how many have placements that can bring them revenue

you looking at at least a 1:10000 ratio. You like those odds? man get a job for real. you can still get a music industry job. but get a real job. stop bastardizing this shit turning selling beats into Vector Knives
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That pretty much says it all. :cheers:
 
as20gp said:
Are people that desperate for information that one must be deemed hollywood for not wanting to help others.

I constantly help people on this forum, no i dont shoot videos showing every publishing check i got and displaying my education. But these niggas are frauds, every last one of them. In a world where everybody is trying to make the most money off everybody.. if you truly had a way to market producers, you dont think one of these companies like M-Audio, or one of these VST companies wouldnt enlist these super marketing producers into their ranks?

Just like how the feds dont bother drug dealers who dont make money, if youre REALLY making money, people are going to want a piece of it.

are the sheep that helpless that they need a shepherd? thats what it looks like when i see these producers so desperate for help, little sheep that dont know how to survive. Constantly asking how.

Dudes want the guideline to everything, i've given dudes manuals of success that i've done that i had to learn on my own and by being embarrassed in sessions. People talked shit, people are know it alls.. People can sit and gossip about every artist and every situation but cant even sell a record. Not even one.

couldnt sell a glass of water to man in the desert. like Who helped me? I learned 80% of everything from trial and error, 10% from here and 10% from google. Why are producers so helpless and worthless man.

look youre not going to make it. Period. youre just not. There are producers that are ON that have names and credibility that are barely making it and grasping at straws.. looking like fish out of water.. gasping for breath that barely get work. You? youre not gonna make it. Youre music aint good, you aint gonna make it.

ive been sugar coating this shit since i came back trying to give people hope, alternatives to make money in this industry.. you know why? because ya'll arent good enough to make money amongst those who do in this industry. Your music isnt good.. and even if it is, usually your attitude isnt good.

you want the guide to success written out for you in a little pamphlet DVD combo. for what? nobody does ANYTHING for free, everybody has a different price. I tried to offer people help.

FP is like the NCAA man.

youre not going to make the NBA man. focus on your degree, make sure youre doing good in your classes mr. Junior at VCU.. because youre not going to be in the NBA. As much as its about talent.. its about work ethic.

half these niggas never been in a session with an artist and wouldnt know how to act.

Dudes got all these rules and regulations on what they would accept, how much advance they should get, how much publishing they should receive, you know how i learned? i learned by getting ****ED out of money. so if i got ****ed out of money, why should i give you advice? to save a strangers career that i dont know?

like i said, im not in the business of selling dreams. so stop trying to make a legitimate career out of making music. Its not happening, its a lot of skill that most of you dont have, it takes a lot of patience with most of you dont have.. a lot of luck.. and a lot of money.. again.. which most dont have

look at how many members on FP there are.. now look how many have placements that can bring them revenue

you looking at at least a 1:10000 ratio. You like those odds? man get a job for real. you can still get a music industry job. but get a real job. stop bastardizing this shit turning selling beats into Vector Knives
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yall niggas not ready for as20gp.
 
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as20gp said:
Are people that desperate for information that one must be deemed hollywood for not wanting to help others
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that's not what i was saying.

i'm saying that CATS ARE ACTING LIKE YOU GOTTA BE HOLLYWOOD in order for your information to be taken seriously.

i wouldn't call someone HOLLYWOOD for not giving me a ROAD MAP / BLUEPRINT / 10 COMMANDMENTS...

...shit...

the game is to be sold, not to be told OFF TOP; and yeah - 80% sounds about right.

but for people to crack on ice boy and be like, "OH - LOOK AT HIS VIDEOS, THEY AIN'T IN HD, - WHERE'S HIS SPORTS-LUXURY VEHICLES AT - WHERE'S HIS JEWELRY AT - HE'S IN AN APARTMENT, SO I CAN'T PAY NO MIND TO THIS GUY -

that shit is the HOLLYWOOD shit to ME.

i don't expect ANY solid information for FREE, and frankly am 100% SHOCKED WHEN CATS COME ON THIS BOARD AND LACE UP THE WHOLE SPREAD FOR LITTLE TO NO DIRECT UPFRONT PROFIT.

this board is all about MUSICIANS HELPING MUSICIANS, YEAH - BUT WHAT ABOUT THE GAME IS TO BE SOLD, NOT TO BE TOLD???

seems like a conflict of interest to me; ALL DAY
 
[F_or_DEAF] said:
but for people to crack on ice boy and be like, "OH - LOOK AT HIS VIDEOS, THEY AIN'T IN HD, - WHERE'S HIS SPORTS-LUXURY VEHICLES AT - WHERE'S HIS JEWELRY AT - HE'S IN AN APARTMENT, SO I CAN'T PAY NO MIND TO THIS GUY -

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I agree

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here's his new video btw

 
yea if hes making 100k a year living in a apartment clearly in the south why WOULD i listen to him though? he dont got a home?

presentation is everything

what you wear, drive, where you live, how you speak all is part of presentation especially when talking about how much money you pull in.
 
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hey i dont get real estate advice from homeless people, i dont get money advice on a nigga who dont pay mortgage

if thats hollywood, then find me at disneyland

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soundclick is the only service/site ive seen where the "most paid" users/members are all the same

in the way they talk, the way they act, the way they market lol, its pretty comical. An Ice Boy comes along every 2 years or so, with the videos and manuals, advice and commentary. its pretty funny. its almost like clockwork

but hey, like he said if it doesnt impact how i make money/do business why do i care
 
as20gp said:
hey i dont get real estate advice from homeless people, i dont get money advice on a nigga who dont pay mortgage

if thats hollywood, then find me at disneyland
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right.

all you need is the IMAGE

that's wussup (I GUESS)
 
AS20GP FP Theme Song... (title only)





Sticky that post please... have these mf's heard their music?

Aye guys...put your ish up against anything on the PREMRO mixtape and be honest with yourself...


Them niggas on PREMRO got placements.... can your shit fit on it? Nope.
 
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niggas so desperate to squeeze pennies out of a service like soundclick because they seen success from peers lol.. sheep

Producer A: you cant make no money off soundclick
Producer B: NAWWW MAN I MADE 100K in a year!
Producer C: No way we did the math bruh, no way you can do that, but i can show you how to make REAL money tho, buy my manual for 99 and i can show you how
Producer D-Z: WE WANT IN!

blind leading the blind

and paying mortgage and owning a home aint "image" its what you need to show you have if youre selling the dream about being SUCCESSFUL off a website

having a home in your name shouldnt be a problem if you making money like these dudes say they are.
 
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as20gp said:
but hey, like he said if it doesnt impact how i make money/do business why do i care
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This just goes to show all you thinkabout is yourself. Iceboy said he wanted to talk about this issue because this affects the upcoming producers that he cares about.
 
If your gonna give advice your image should be on par with the advice you are giving. I would think if you where trying to gain muscle weight you would probably take the advice of the dude who looks like he works out everyday and is in crazy shape rather then the average normal looking dude.
 
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