i read muslims are not allowed to play or hear music. hiphop is especially haram....

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how ironic on so many levels.....:rolleyes:

people need to understand the difference between knowledge and belief....

luckily...i live in a place where im free to call bull**** and the opinion of a spooked out individual will have no bearing on my life....

peace out....

rome...u killing this thread:cheers:

That's maybe the most sensible statement I read so far...

Kills DaNOC's statements, stop portraying your fairytales as facts please, it's very annoying.
 
If the universe formed out of pre-existing material idiot, then how did the pre-existing material get here?????? Exactly. What an idiot, you and BiggRomeo.

and im the one that's dumb?....

ENERGY CANOOT BE CREATED OR DESTROYED...IT CAN ONLY CHANGE FORMS....

if something always existed does it need to be created?.....dummy....in science there is no need for a god....the universe has an inherent intelligence that manifests itself as nature....

NOTHING SPOOKY....
 
In nature, does spontaneous creation exists???? If so, please show me, lol. If this was the case, shyt would be popping up out the blue all around us. Besides, how can you not believe in God and have this:

 
1. you never "apologetic'ed" your way out of the "your leader claimed to be immortal" , "your leader taught the world was 76 trillion years old" , a book YOU cited claimed "the book of the dead is 10,000 years old" , and YOU mentioned "the physical material world" as if there were any other .

and all you can say is " thats irrelevant". actually its VERY relevant to the topic at hand , which is questioning and debunking your contradictory "belief" . Also, you ignorantly speak of africa as though it was one large nation . africa has always had different groups with different langauges and systems and religions. you have no idea which tripe in which region you are descended from so you cant claim that "your people" did or believed ANYTHING since you dont know which were your people. Also, all the good parts of africa "egypt, ethiopia" etc, had nothing to do with slavery. NONE of the slaves came from those regions, they came from the ass regions , so you actually have no chance in being a descendant of the cool african civilizations . you mentioned your affinity to "Egyptian mysticism" , but you arent egyptian. your ancestors didnt come from that region . no slaves were brought from egypt.

I DONT HAVE A LEADER U ****IN IDIOT.....the 76 trillion years is from the NOI and john jackson is an author....not my leaders....

and since u so knowledgeable....WHERE DO THE EGYPTIANS SAY THEY CAME FROM?......THE SOUTH...IN NUBIA...the so called "ASS" regiopns",.....again youngin...tell that to someone that doesnt know....

egypt is the jewell of africa...only because that is the place where our history has been preserved...historians such as ivan van sertima, dr ben, john henrik clarke have done extensive studies on the how the egyptians are desceded from black africans in the south IN THIER OWN HISTORICAL WRITINGS.....so just like the white man u probably are u are trying to separate egypt from africa....so again...try that on someone that DOESNT know what he's talking about...i have done the research already...so i know what u say is bull****...u are grasping at straws at this point...then again...u have been grasping at straws from the beginning....
 
In nature, does spontaneous creation exists???? If so, please show me, lol. If this was the case, shyt would be popping up out the blue all around us. Besides, how can you not believe in God and have this:

i only trust in myself....and that's my god....

now..u may interpret that another way....lol......when i say god im talking about me...u are talking about a ghost that u CLAIM did a lot of shyt....
 
and all u blac muslims...did u know that the arab was a bigger slave trader than the european?....us blacks LOVE the teachings of our slavemasters.....and we'll argue all day that OUR KNOWLEDGE is wrong, invalid etc etc....

that's that house nigga shyt......u free...and still dont wanna be free....wanna stay as close to massa as possible....
 
^^^And lastly, out of all the billions of galaxies and planets in the entire universe, why are we the only one with life if you idea is correct??????
 
how do u know we are the only one with life?....

u too easy....

again....IM NOT THE ONE CLAIMING TO KLNOW WITH 100% ACCURACY THAT I KNOW HOW THE UNIVERSE GOT HERE......u are the one claiming that...i just propse an alternate THEORY....see the difference?.....

u are the one making the assertion...so the burden of proof is on u christians, muslims, and jews.....yall te ones claim to have the "TRUTH"....right? :)
 
I DONT HAVE A LEADER U ****IN IDIOT.....the 76 trillion years is from the NOI and john jackson is an author....not my leaders....

and since u so knowledgeable....WHERE DO THE EGYPTIANS SAY THEY CAME FROM?......THE SOUTH...IN NUBIA...the so called "ASS" regiopns",.....again youngin...tell that to someone that doesnt know....

egypt is the jewell of africa...only because that is the place where our history has been preserved...historians such as ivan van sertima, dr ben, john henrik clarke have done extensive studies on the how the egyptians are desceded from black africans in the south IN THIER OWN HISTORICAL WRITINGS.....so just like the white man u probably are u are trying to separate egypt from africa....so again...try that on someone that DOESNT know what he's talking about...i have done the research already...so i know what u say is bull****...u are grasping at straws at this point...then again...u have been grasping at straws from the beginning....

no, actually nubia is one of the good parts that you didnt come from. the good parts were north eastern areas.
 
So the black people here "ain't no damn good"? I take it, lol.

We're from the ass regions... lol... and you're white.

Make it yours Cali. :cheers:

for that to be true, it would have to mean that the condition of the place you live in , correlates to your state as a human, AND that having an ass ancestry equals you being ass . Neither of which are true . Just because your ancestors came from ass regions and didnt have the same advancements as the rest of the world, doesnt mean that you cant succeed where they didnt . by the logic you assumed i possessed, egypt should be a utopia but it isnt . its no secret that africa was and still is pretty ass , but that doesnt mean that a black person is doomed to be unsuccessful . it has nothing to do with it . white people had their "witch burning" periods of assness . and im not white, but even if i was, what would that prove ?
 
^^^^^^^
dont go buy modern maps....the egyptians trace thier ancestry to the source of the nile....it's the lake in CENTRAL AFRIC....google map of africa...you'll see the lake right in central africa...it borders the modern day countries uganda, rwanda, kenya, and tanzania....the so called "ass" parts of africa..SUB SAHARAN AFRICA....the part that whiy\tey claims never gave birth to a civilization even though the oldest mine in the world is in south africa....

agan shorty....try this on someone that DOESNT know what he's talking about...

im actually reading a book called "the destruction of black civilization" by chancellor willioams that deals with this topic...about how mainly arabs paved the way for the conquest of the continent using thier religion, military conquests, and slavery....


and in case u aint notice...u gay according to s_preme :)
 
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So the black people here "ain't no damn good"? I take it, lol.

We're from the ass regions... lol... and you're white.

Make it yours Cali. :cheers:

for that to be true, it would have to mean that the condition of the place you live in , correlates to your state as a human, AND that having an ass ancestry equals you being ass . Neither of which are true . Just because your ancestors came from ass regions and didnt have the same advancements as the rest of the world, doesnt mean that you cant succeed where they didnt . by the logic you assumed i possessed, egypt should be a utopia but it isnt . its no secret that africa was and still is pretty ass , but that doesnt mean that a black person is doomed to be unsuccessful . it has nothing to do with it . white people had their "witch burning" periods of assness . and im not white, but even if i was, what would that prove ?
 
^^^^^^^
dont go buy modern maps....the egyptians trace thier ancestry to the source of the nile....it's the lake in CENTRAL AFRIC....google map of africa...you'll see the lake right in central africa...it borders the modern day countries uganda, rwanda, kenya, and tanzania....the so called "ass" parts of africa..SUB SAHARAN AFRICA....the part that whiy\tey claims never gave birth to a civilization even though the oldest mine in the world is in south africa....

agan shorty....try this on someone that DOESNT know what he's talking about...

im actually reading a book called "the destruction of black civilization" by chancellor willioams that deals with this topic...about how mainly arabs paved the way for the conquest of the continent using thier religion, military conquests, and slavery....


and in case u aint notice...u gay according to s_preme :)
oh, they had "civilizations" but i meant ones that mattered . Also , even IF those parts were like the roman or greek empires , (which they werent) , it wouldve been in like 5000 bc (when all it wouldve taken to be "civilized" was a water system) since in modern history and even right now in 2009, those parts and all of africa is ass . So according to you, the way to solve the assness of africa is to convince every black person to forget all the western education adn to drop out of school if they are currently attending and to learn your sacred number system ? i wish it was that easy , but it isnt, it will actually take the opposite of what you propose and require the black community to value education (western education, as in modern, not number mysticism). you might actually trick some people into believing that you are for the betterment of the black community of fallen gods, but then you are teaching them to abandon education (by which i mean, actual education, not number mysticism) . you believe that the problem with the black community is that they are too studied in western education, and i believe that the problem is that they dont study as much as they should. i guess we can agree to disagree
 
what would that prove ?

Nothing. Continue to believe in your belief. It's yours...

:cheers:

Superstition is knowledge deduced or obtained without logic, and speculation is deduction made without proof. Both of these methods are like castles built on the sea shore. All it takes is one wave of logic to wash them away, yet people use these flimsy methods all the
time to support their positions or to justify their behaviors.
 
Nothing. Continue to believe in your belief. It's yours...

:cheers:

Superstition is knowledge deduced or obtained without logic, and speculation is deduction made without proof. Both of these methods are like castles built on the sea shore. All it takes is one wave of logic to wash them away, yet people use these flimsy methods all the
time to support their positions or to justify their behaviors.

i havent stated any "beliefs" in this thread so i dont know what you are referring to
 
Have some fun... not that I care or anything.


The Bible says . . .

Jesus was not divine

Although the Church proclaims that Jesus and God are, and have always been, co-equal personalities (along with the Holy Spirit) in the Trinity, there are many passages in the New Testament that indicate Jesus was not God, was inferior to God, and in fact was just a human being. Here are some of them:

Jesus admits: "The father is greater than I." (John 14:28)

"No one has ever seen God." (John 1:18) Yet crowds of people saw Jesus.

Jesus asks, "Why do you call me good? Only God is good." (Mark 10:18) Also in Matthew 19:17; Luke 18:19.

"Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ." (1 Corinthians 11:3)

Jesus was not in existence at the beginning, but was created by God at a specific point in time: "Thou art my son; today I have begotten thee." (Acts 13:33)

Peter refers to Jesus the Nazarene as a "man" through whom God performed many wonders. (Acts 2:22) The Greek word for "man" in this verse is andra, which refers to a human man - specifically, "a male person of full age and stature." (William D. Mounce, The Analytical Lexicon to the Greek New Testament)

"Among those born of women, there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist." (Matthew 11:11) But Jesus himself was born of the woman Mary. If he were truly divine, he would himself be greater than John the Baptist. Therefore, Jesus must not be divine. Also see Luke 7:28.

Jesus botched the healing of a blind man, and had to do it over again. If he were truly divine, he would have gotten it right the first time.
"And some people brought to him a blind man, and begged him to touch him. And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the village; and when he had spit on his eyes and laid his hands upon him, he asked him, 'Do you see anything?' and he looked up and said, 'I see men; but they look like trees walking.' Then again he laid his hands upon his eyes; and he looked intently and was restored, and saw everything clearly." (Mark 8:22-25)
The Bible says . . .

Jesus was a sinner

Jesus violated at least two of the Ten Commandments as well as several other requirements of the Old Testament Law. This means that he was a sinner, and could not possibly have fulfilled the requirement of being the perfectly innocent sacrificial lamb required by Paul's theology. Here are some examples of the sins of Jesus:

"Honor your father and your mother." (Exodus 20:12)
BUT: Jesus spoke very harshly to his mother in John 2:4 ("Woman, what do I have to do with you?") He effectively disowned her in public in Matthew 12:46-50, preferring his followers over her. And when the woman in Luke proclaims Mary's womb as "blessed" for having given birth to Jesus, he objects and responds, "On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it." (Luke 11:28) On all these counts, Jesus dishonored his mother, in violation of the fifth commandment, and thus committed a sin.

"You shall not covet your neighbor's house . . . or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor's." (Exodus 20:17)
BUT: Jesus commanded his disciples, "Go into the village opposite you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied there and a colt with her; untie them and bring them to me." (Matthew 21:2) Matthew's account does not tell us that they asked anyone for permission to take the donkey and the colt, or if they did ask, what the response was. In any case, at least the tenth commandment was violated, because Jesus coveted another person's donkey. If he had them taken without permission, then he also violated the eighth commandment against stealing. Jesus's behavior in Luke's version is no better. In that gospel the animal is a colt, but the owner confronts the disciples, asking "Why are you untying the colt?" And the disciples respond, "The Lord has need of it." (Luke 19:33-34) And they take it anyway. No permission is given by the colt's owner.

"If anyone sins in that he hears a public adjuration to testify and though he is a witness, whether he has seen or come to know the matter, yet does not speak, he shall bear his iniquity." (Leviticus 5:1)
In other words, anyone summoned to testify in a public proceeding is obligated to tell what he knows.
BUT: Jesus, before the Sanhedrin and before Pilate, refused to testify: "Then Pilate said to him, 'Do you not hear how many things they testify against you?' And he did not answer him with regard to even a single charge, so that the governor was quite amazed." (Matthew 27:13-14) Thus, Jesus committed another sin by refusing to testify.

"You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might." (Deuteronomy 6:5)
BUT: On the cross, Jesus cried out, "My God, my God, why have you deserted me?" (Mark 15:34) At that moment, Jesus was definitely not expressing love for God, but frustration and despair. Certainly his whole heart, and soul, and might were not devoted to the love of God at that moment. Thus Jesus violated the commandment expressed in Deuteronomy 6:5, showing again that he was a sinner.

And if Jesus was not a sinner, why did he get baptized by John the Baptist? (Mark 1:9) John was preaching a "baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins." (Mark 1:4) The only reason to be baptized is to wash away sinfulness.

The Bible says . . .

Jesus's message was only for Israel

"I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 15:24)

Jesus told his disciples: "Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 10:5-6)

The greatest commandment is addressed only to Israel: "Which commandment is the first of all? Jesus answered, 'The first is Hear, O Israel. The Lord our God, the Lord is one, and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.'" (Mark 12:28-30)

When a Greek woman begged Jesus to expel the demons from her daughter, Jesus replied, "Let the children first be fed [i.e., the children of Israel], for it is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs." (Mark 7:27)
The Bible says . . .

Slaves should obey their masters

"Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ." (Ephesians 6:5)
"Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters." (Collossians 3:22)
"Bid slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect." (Titus 2:9)
"Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be defamed." (1 Timothy 6:1)
The Bible says . . .

Jesus's own disciples didn't believe he rose from the dead.

If Jesus really taught that he would rise from the dead after three days, you'd think his disciples would have been overjoyed to see him alive after the crucifixion. But we find just the opposite in the Bible. The disciples themselves didn't believe it!

When the women returned from the tomb and told the disciples that Jesus had risen, "these words seemed to them an idle tale, and they did not believe them." (Luke 24:11)
The two followers who had seen the post-resurrection Jesus "went back and told the rest, but they did not believe them." (Mark 16:13)
"For as yet they [the disciples] did not know the scripture, that he must rise from the dead." (John 20:9)
When Thomas was told of Jesus's appearance to the other ten, he replied, "Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails, and place my finger in the mark of the nails, and place my hand in his side, I will not believe." (John 20:25)
"And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted." (Matthew 28:17)
And when Jesus reportedly appeared to the eleven disciples, "he upbraided them for their unbelief and hardness of heart because they had not believed those who saw him after he had risen." (Mark 16:14)
The Bible says . . .

Jesus's knowledge of the Bible was imperfect.

In Mark 2:26 Jesus tries to justify the harvesting of grain on the sabbath by referring to a story in which David ate the holy bread "when Abiathar was high priest." But the priest at that time was Ahimelech, not Abiathar, as we can read in 1 Samuel 21:1-6.
Also in Mark 2:26, Jesus says that David gave the holy bread "to those who were with him." But David's men were not with him when he asked the priest to give him the bread. The priest even asked David, "Why are you alone, and no one with you?" (1 Samuel 21:1)
In Luke 11:50-51, Jesus warns that the "blood of all the prophets, shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah." However, Abel (the son of Adam and Eve) was not a prophet. There would not even have been anyone on earth for him to prophesy to, other than Adam, Eve, and his brother Cain.
In Matthew 23:35, which parallels Luke 11:50-51, Jesus refers to "the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar." But the Zechariah who was murdered in 2 Chronicles 24:21 was not the son of Barachiah, but the son of Jehoiada, as we are told in the preceding verse, 2 Chronicles 24:20. Zechariah the son of Barachiah was not murdered, but died a natural death, according to early traditions. (See The Interpreter's Bible, vol.7, p.540.)
 
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Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 
oh, they had "civilizations" but i meant ones that mattered . Also , even IF those parts were like the roman or greek empires , (which they werent) , it wouldve been in like 5000 bc (when all it wouldve taken to be "civilized" was a water system) since in modern history and even right now in 2009, those parts and all of africa is ass . So according to you, the way to solve the assness of africa is to convince every black person to forget all the western education adn to drop out of school if they are currently attending and to learn your sacred number system ? i wish it was that easy , but it isnt, it will actually take the opposite of what you propose and require the black community to value education (western education, as in modern, not number mysticism). you might actually trick some people into believing that you are for the betterment of the black community of fallen gods, but then you are teaching them to abandon education (by which i mean, actual education, not number mysticism) . you believe that the problem with the black community is that they are too studied in western education, and i believe that the problem is that they dont study as much as they should. i guess we can agree to disagree

i think a 40000 year old iron mineis a sign of an advanced civilization...it's the first mine discovered....

funny u mention the greeks...did u know that THIER HISTORIANS(herdotus, diodorus, etc etc) say that ethiopia is the oldest civilization?....did u know that ancient ethiopia stretched from west africa to india?....did u know that the greeks said the olympian gods were from ethiopia and that it was "the land of the gods"....and FINALLY....did u know that the greeks admit that almost every single greek philosopher studied in africa and africa was the source of thier greek philosophy?...again....there's a book called "stolen legacy" that goes into this....

like i said....there are plenty of meaningful civilizations if africa...they just arent taught...and people dont care to do the research for themselves....

i have mentioned numerous scholars in this thread...and i'll state them again for anyone that cares....

ivan van sertima...dr john henrik clarke....dr yosef ben jocannan(aka dr ben)....JA rogers....(and many others...that's a good start)

like i KEEP SAYING...save that shyt for somebody that's ignorant....

and u are right...we must agree to disagree....

i wont even adress the BS in your post about dropping out of school and whatnot...because i never said that...the solution for black people is to get knowledge of self and do for self...the form of the knowledge wont matter...the main thing is to know yourself and your histopry and manifest your natural genius and do for self...not for others....let them handle thier own shyt....
 
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Have some fun... not that I care or anything.


The Bible says . . .

Jesus was not divine

Although the Church proclaims that Jesus and God are, and have always been, co-equal personalities (along with the Holy Spirit) in the Trinity, there are many passages in the New Testament that indicate Jesus was not God, was inferior to God, and in fact was just a human being. Here are some of them:

Jesus admits: "The father is greater than I." (John 14:28)

"No one has ever seen God." (John 1:18) Yet crowds of people saw Jesus.

Jesus asks, "Why do you call me good? Only God is good." (Mark 10:18) Also in Matthew 19:17; Luke 18:19.

"Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ." (1 Corinthians 11:3)

Jesus was not in existence at the beginning, but was created by God at a specific point in time: "Thou art my son; today I have begotten thee." (Acts 13:33)

Peter refers to Jesus the Nazarene as a "man" through whom God performed many wonders. (Acts 2:22) The Greek word for "man" in this verse is andra, which refers to a human man - specifically, "a male person of full age and stature." (William D. Mounce, The Analytical Lexicon to the Greek New Testament)

"Among those born of women, there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist." (Matthew 11:11) But Jesus himself was born of the woman Mary. If he were truly divine, he would himself be greater than John the Baptist. Therefore, Jesus must not be divine. Also see Luke 7:28.

Jesus botched the healing of a blind man, and had to do it over again. If he were truly divine, he would have gotten it right the first time.
"And some people brought to him a blind man, and begged him to touch him. And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the village; and when he had spit on his eyes and laid his hands upon him, he asked him, 'Do you see anything?' and he looked up and said, 'I see men; but they look like trees walking.' Then again he laid his hands upon his eyes; and he looked intently and was restored, and saw everything clearly." (Mark 8:22-25)
The Bible says . . .

Jesus was a sinner

Jesus violated at least two of the Ten Commandments as well as several other requirements of the Old Testament Law. This means that he was a sinner, and could not possibly have fulfilled the requirement of being the perfectly innocent sacrificial lamb required by Paul's theology. Here are some examples of the sins of Jesus:

"Honor your father and your mother." (Exodus 20:12)
BUT: Jesus spoke very harshly to his mother in John 2:4 ("Woman, what do I have to do with you?") He effectively disowned her in public in Matthew 12:46-50, preferring his followers over her. And when the woman in Luke proclaims Mary's womb as "blessed" for having given birth to Jesus, he objects and responds, "On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it." (Luke 11:28) On all these counts, Jesus dishonored his mother, in violation of the fifth commandment, and thus committed a sin.

"You shall not covet your neighbor's house . . . or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor's." (Exodus 20:17)
BUT: Jesus commanded his disciples, "Go into the village opposite you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied there and a colt with her; untie them and bring them to me." (Matthew 21:2) Matthew's account does not tell us that they asked anyone for permission to take the donkey and the colt, or if they did ask, what the response was. In any case, at least the tenth commandment was violated, because Jesus coveted another person's donkey. If he had them taken without permission, then he also violated the eighth commandment against stealing. Jesus's behavior in Luke's version is no better. In that gospel the animal is a colt, but the owner confronts the disciples, asking "Why are you untying the colt?" And the disciples respond, "The Lord has need of it." (Luke 19:33-34) And they take it anyway. No permission is given by the colt's owner.

"If anyone sins in that he hears a public adjuration to testify and though he is a witness, whether he has seen or come to know the matter, yet does not speak, he shall bear his iniquity." (Leviticus 5:1)
In other words, anyone summoned to testify in a public proceeding is obligated to tell what he knows.
BUT: Jesus, before the Sanhedrin and before Pilate, refused to testify: "Then Pilate said to him, 'Do you not hear how many things they testify against you?' And he did not answer him with regard to even a single charge, so that the governor was quite amazed." (Matthew 27:13-14) Thus, Jesus committed another sin by refusing to testify.

"You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might." (Deuteronomy 6:5)
BUT: On the cross, Jesus cried out, "My God, my God, why have you deserted me?" (Mark 15:34) At that moment, Jesus was definitely not expressing love for God, but frustration and despair. Certainly his whole heart, and soul, and might were not devoted to the love of God at that moment. Thus Jesus violated the commandment expressed in Deuteronomy 6:5, showing again that he was a sinner.

And if Jesus was not a sinner, why did he get baptized by John the Baptist? (Mark 1:9) John was preaching a "baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins." (Mark 1:4) The only reason to be baptized is to wash away sinfulness.

The Bible says . . .

Jesus's message was only for Israel

"I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 15:24)

Jesus told his disciples: "Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 10:5-6)

The greatest commandment is addressed only to Israel: "Which commandment is the first of all? Jesus answered, 'The first is Hear, O Israel. The Lord our God, the Lord is one, and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.'" (Mark 12:28-30)

When a Greek woman begged Jesus to expel the demons from her daughter, Jesus replied, "Let the children first be fed [i.e., the children of Israel], for it is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs." (Mark 7:27)
The Bible says . . .

Slaves should obey their masters

"Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ." (Ephesians 6:5)
"Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters." (Collossians 3:22)
"Bid slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect." (Titus 2:9)
"Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be defamed." (1 Timothy 6:1)
The Bible says . . .

Jesus's own disciples didn't believe he rose from the dead.

If Jesus really taught that he would rise from the dead after three days, you'd think his disciples would have been overjoyed to see him alive after the crucifixion. But we find just the opposite in the Bible. The disciples themselves didn't believe it!

When the women returned from the tomb and told the disciples that Jesus had risen, "these words seemed to them an idle tale, and they did not believe them." (Luke 24:11)
The two followers who had seen the post-resurrection Jesus "went back and told the rest, but they did not believe them." (Mark 16:13)
"For as yet they [the disciples] did not know the scripture, that he must rise from the dead." (John 20:9)
When Thomas was told of Jesus's appearance to the other ten, he replied, "Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails, and place my finger in the mark of the nails, and place my hand in his side, I will not believe." (John 20:25)
"And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted." (Matthew 28:17)
And when Jesus reportedly appeared to the eleven disciples, "he upbraided them for their unbelief and hardness of heart because they had not believed those who saw him after he had risen." (Mark 16:14)
The Bible says . . .

Jesus's knowledge of the Bible was imperfect.

In Mark 2:26 Jesus tries to justify the harvesting of grain on the sabbath by referring to a story in which David ate the holy bread "when Abiathar was high priest." But the priest at that time was Ahimelech, not Abiathar, as we can read in 1 Samuel 21:1-6.
Also in Mark 2:26, Jesus says that David gave the holy bread "to those who were with him." But David's men were not with him when he asked the priest to give him the bread. The priest even asked David, "Why are you alone, and no one with you?" (1 Samuel 21:1)
In Luke 11:50-51, Jesus warns that the "blood of all the prophets, shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah." However, Abel (the son of Adam and Eve) was not a prophet. There would not even have been anyone on earth for him to prophesy to, other than Adam, Eve, and his brother Cain.
In Matthew 23:35, which parallels Luke 11:50-51, Jesus refers to "the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar." But the Zechariah who was murdered in 2 Chronicles 24:21 was not the son of Barachiah, but the son of Jehoiada, as we are told in the preceding verse, 2 Chronicles 24:20. Zechariah the son of Barachiah was not murdered, but died a natural death, according to early traditions. (See The Interpreter's Bible, vol.7, p.540.)

i can rebut anyone of these points but ive noticed that the 4000 times i rebutted your misunderstandings you just proceeded to believe what you will regardless .you complained about the "tithe" i explained that the tithe isnt biblical and you dont have to give your pastor a tenth. you gave a bunch of "what if's" that would never happen , just to test , and i answered them but what is the point ? you are obviously not interested . and i was literally answering every statement in my head as i was reading it. this looks like its a copy and paste from that raging atheist website i visit, i forgot what its called . some quick ones, you are correct that the Bible wasnt meant for a pagan (non-jew) , and that Jesus wasnt supposed to be God. so i dont know who is always trying to force you to go to church with them or what the scenario is, because God is concerned with HIS people . you are allowed to do what you want . do you live with someone that is always trying to convince you to go to church ? pagas are not required to read the Tenach , in fact its forbidden to even teach you how to pronounce God's name . So i have good news for you, you dont have to go to church !
 
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