your an intelligent ass dude i respect that as ive said in the past SC top producers hats off to them they have found a comfort zone and it seems to be quite easy to remain once your there cant hate that, i disagree with promoting the **** out of dirty tactics and preaching promotion over talent. I feel as if it should be a dirty little secret, Do you see Wal-mart goin around in interviews sayin too bad for the little guy boo hoo or so what i kno my ethics are ****ed 6 ways from sunday but im makin money and lots of it...No they dont speak on the black side of there business sometimes the gray shows but they mostly try and show a clean white image and arent flaunting net and gross figures to the public.... SC PRODUCERS HOW EVER (not all) promote the **** out of it "i make this much money" "you would be suprised how many customers i have" "SC BEATS PAID FOR THIS RANGE ROVER" thats what i dont like. Inexperienced seriously business sense lacking bandwagon producers look at this as a fantastic way to do jack **** with no financial investment but 100 percent return if they just "grind" they dont take time to perfect there craft so instead there is a sesspool of inexperienced beat makers who strive for $$$ they dont deserve because there quality is lacking severly or non existant and instead of it bein a talented demographic its now a online dope game with no consequence of not payin dues.
Oh...man...I hope you weren't referring to me LOL. I just put that out there just to let you know what it is in the background or the "shadows" in the idea of competition.
But yeah I feel ya on the whole dislike of promotion over talent...THAT is fa sho a problem on the internet. It has given EVERYONE the power of a major label.
With that said...this actually creates opportunity. This is why I keep telling people to build their own site. Beat sites like soundclick pretty much have no filter. The only way you can filter yourself out from the rest on the internet is to have your own space that isn't shared. Soundclick, facebook, myspace, youtube...you are sharing a space with all of those other members (competitors).
Not saying don't have those, in fact you should be on all of those. But each one should link back to YOUR spot.
All you have to do is just make better music than the people you're sharing spaces with on youtube and soundclick whatever.
The promotion on those sites will be the same as their tactics is what I'm saying isn't going anywhere. You have to take a look at what IS working in each of those networks and then apply that to your model IF you don't have a model that you believe works better.
IF you do, then you get your website up and run your google analytics and keep track of your numbers. Only YOU can prove whether or not your business model is working.
It's all about the hits to your main page. Not soundclick, myspace whatever. Your main page is going to be your way of collecting "fans" or potential buyers really.
You want people to subscribe to your page, not to a youtube site. You don't sell on youtube. You don't sell on soundclick either if we are being technical. You sell on your webpage. That's where you want your subscribers and your buyers to go and bookmark.
There you have control. You control ALL content and no one else's content is there to distract people from your page because it's yours and not a social network excerpt.
your quite humble and well spoken...i was speakin on 3 certain individuals who are quite well known around these parts who love to flaunt success/car salesman sales techniques and often come across as cocky and conceided ....we all kno who i mean ...you cats that dont flaunt bad business and keep your braggin to a minimum 
yall good in my books
....kill yaself
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