TzToppDogg
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Lookat the examples here: https://www.futureproducers.com/for...thats-im-spitting-out-there-right-now-442378/
Wrote it myself.
Wrote it myself.
Olie
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Lol, and in response you tell me to watch a movie on rap, lol? Kids these days. No wonder rappers sound like they do these days. I'm sure the guys in the movie telling you their techniques taught themselves though polishing their own craft based off knowledge of the sound of hip hop and getting booed on the block if what they brought was wack while getting appraisal for comin' correct. NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
As for the weed reference, you overlooked my point.
I guess you you have no problem with shooting someone and drinking a cup of tea? That effects most people the same...a long prison trip.
All i'm saying is, live the lifestyle, embrace the music, and find your lane. You don't go from zero to MC after a few tips and tricks. But you can go from hip hop fan to MC in a few cyphers if you already have the foundation in your heart.
The movie is basically an interview with tons of different rappers mostly older ones, it proves my point all rappers work differently when they write. You should really know what your talking about before commenting.
Perhaps your comment was tongue in cheek about smoking weed but you really shouldn't encourage it for learning how to rap, that makes a dependancy. Also i say that it's not for everyone because i used to suffer from pretty bad anxiety and weed seems to affect me on a much larger extent, the two combined makes me basically lose my mind for half an hour - no matter what mood i'm in before i smoke.
Please don't make assumptions about me, it shows how ignorant you are. Yet your fighting against ignorance, oh the irony.
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup
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What exactly did I "assume" about you? And why I you still putting emphasis on weed?
Seems the only thing I said you didn't take out of contex was my sig quote. Irony indeed. You're being one of the others right now, sir.
Again, you don't like bud? Just skip the weed smoking step and go out and shoot someone and drink a cup o' tea, lol.
Not sure why you missed my entire point, then again, I am. Because I bet not 1 muthaf**ka in that movie learned their technique from watching a movie about a buncha old rappers telling them how they learned to rap, I betcha not 1 of those old f**kers learned techniques on a forum site. You yet somehow seem to encourage both while telling me I have no clue what i'm talking about...
Irony, was it. You win, bruh, you're right.
Seems the only thing I said you didn't take out of contex was my sig quote. Irony indeed. You're being one of the others right now, sir.
Again, you don't like bud? Just skip the weed smoking step and go out and shoot someone and drink a cup o' tea, lol.
Not sure why you missed my entire point, then again, I am. Because I bet not 1 muthaf**ka in that movie learned their technique from watching a movie about a buncha old rappers telling them how they learned to rap, I betcha not 1 of those old f**kers learned techniques on a forum site. You yet somehow seem to encourage both while telling me I have no clue what i'm talking about...
Irony, was it. You win, bruh, you're right.
ICEN
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ITS EASY : I don't understand how people don't figure it out but here this is how you do it.
Take a word you can't rhyme with, lets use METAPHOR for example.
Break down metaphor and its really " MET-A-PHOR "
now you see 3 broken down words. now look at each word, you have to rhyme with MET, you have to rhyme with A, then you have to rhyme with PHOR.
So MET rhymes with VET, BET, JET,
A rhymes with DA, BA, CA, VA, DUH, UH, LA,
PHOR rhymes with, WHORE, POOR, SORE, LORE, BORE,
So now you can rhyme MET-A-PHOR with things like
MET-A-WHORE
WET-DA-DOOR
ect. You get the point.
Break down the words into parts or syllables, after you do that find a word that rhymes with each syllables then you can make a word that rhymes with that FULL word.
If you can't rhyme GYNECOLOGIST break it down into, GYNE-COLO-GIST
Gyne rhymes with nine, spine, whine, mine
colo rhymes with polo(as in apollo), follow, swallow,
gist rhymes with mist, wrist, ect.
the only part that is hard is making the words make sense.
Take a word you can't rhyme with, lets use METAPHOR for example.
Break down metaphor and its really " MET-A-PHOR "
now you see 3 broken down words. now look at each word, you have to rhyme with MET, you have to rhyme with A, then you have to rhyme with PHOR.
So MET rhymes with VET, BET, JET,
A rhymes with DA, BA, CA, VA, DUH, UH, LA,
PHOR rhymes with, WHORE, POOR, SORE, LORE, BORE,
So now you can rhyme MET-A-PHOR with things like
MET-A-WHORE
WET-DA-DOOR
ect. You get the point.
Break down the words into parts or syllables, after you do that find a word that rhymes with each syllables then you can make a word that rhymes with that FULL word.
If you can't rhyme GYNECOLOGIST break it down into, GYNE-COLO-GIST
Gyne rhymes with nine, spine, whine, mine
colo rhymes with polo(as in apollo), follow, swallow,
gist rhymes with mist, wrist, ect.
the only part that is hard is making the words make sense.
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OneOff
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Met-A-Whore is not a multi-syllabic rhyme for metaphor. 'Met-A' and 'meta' are phonetic repetitions. You are merely rhyming 'PHOR' with 'whore'.
A true multi-syllabic rhyme would be: metaphor - C'est L'amour
I recommend getting good rhyming dictionary unless you want to spend all your time finding words that rhyme instead of creating cool lyrics with words that rhyme.
A true multi-syllabic rhyme would be: metaphor - C'est L'amour
I recommend getting good rhyming dictionary unless you want to spend all your time finding words that rhyme instead of creating cool lyrics with words that rhyme.
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup
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Put C'est L'amour in a rhyme before you decide to make "met a whore" and "metaphor" go together. Go spit that rhyme and see how many fans you get.
That's my point.
Y'all the dudes who think your lyrics are flying over peoples heads when you just using wack azz wordplay in the 1st place.
Metaphor....fiend for the cheddar more....
meet ya moms, disrespect the whore, them legs, you betta spread em' more....
act outta line and ya face gonna get fed the floor....
ballin in my mind, I ain't gotta check a credit score.....
That's like 2 seconds of typing.
never grab a dictionary to learn how to spit
that shit is counterfeit you'd be way better off without the shit
Rhyming ain't about big words, it's about rhyming in ways to make broken english make sense. You don't have to say I went to the park, you can say "the park, yeah, I went there" there's always a way to compile words to make them make sense.
C'est L'amour? WTF? M.O.P. would whup your azz going in the studio to put that on a track with them. I get it, y'all a different lane of MCs than I'm used to. lol.
Even the white boy savior of hip hop Em' shoulda taught y'all that. What phrase has ever left his mouth that sounded like it came from a rhymining dictionary? Lol. Lack of talent and lust for whatever makes a crazy combination. Rhyming dictionaries for a craft grade school dropouts dominate. WTF?
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Lol, betcha Cheef Keef don't leave the house without his rhyming dictionary, lol. That shyt is responsible for every Gucci verse ever, lol. GTFOH, lol.
That's my point.
Y'all the dudes who think your lyrics are flying over peoples heads when you just using wack azz wordplay in the 1st place.
Metaphor....fiend for the cheddar more....
meet ya moms, disrespect the whore, them legs, you betta spread em' more....
act outta line and ya face gonna get fed the floor....
ballin in my mind, I ain't gotta check a credit score.....
That's like 2 seconds of typing.
never grab a dictionary to learn how to spit
that shit is counterfeit you'd be way better off without the shit
Rhyming ain't about big words, it's about rhyming in ways to make broken english make sense. You don't have to say I went to the park, you can say "the park, yeah, I went there" there's always a way to compile words to make them make sense.
C'est L'amour? WTF? M.O.P. would whup your azz going in the studio to put that on a track with them. I get it, y'all a different lane of MCs than I'm used to. lol.
Even the white boy savior of hip hop Em' shoulda taught y'all that. What phrase has ever left his mouth that sounded like it came from a rhymining dictionary? Lol. Lack of talent and lust for whatever makes a crazy combination. Rhyming dictionaries for a craft grade school dropouts dominate. WTF?
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Lol, betcha Cheef Keef don't leave the house without his rhyming dictionary, lol. That shyt is responsible for every Gucci verse ever, lol. GTFOH, lol.
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OneOff
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All you have done is to combine a few of family rhymes and assonance rhymes to match the individual syllables of 'metaphor'.
Each and every word you have used can be found in a pro rhyming dictionary. That doesn't make them any less authentic or 'counterfeit'. You just pick the ones that speak to you to create lyrics that express whatever you want to express - that's all there is to it.
Olie
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yep you win, good luck in that mind set with whatever your trying to do.
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deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup
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^^^Nah, you already won.
You read books to get to the intellectual levels of 9th grade dropouts like Em and Wayne.
@Oneoff, it would take more work to look up a rhyming word than it does to just say the 1st thing that comes into your mind. If you can't do that, you cannot and never will be able to rap well. You'll rely on a book of reference to give insight into what you're about. That's senseless. That's pretty f**kin far from hip hop's foundation. But I get it, to you guys I just sound like some old dude who is too stubborn to pick up a book.
How you win a battle when you gotta rely on a rhyme book to tell you what you can say about a guys "seamed purple slacks". That's ammo in itself, but I'm sure that book won't have anything about "Steve Urkel's back" in it. And you're gonna get booed flippin pages to see, lol.
You read books to get to the intellectual levels of 9th grade dropouts like Em and Wayne.
@Oneoff, it would take more work to look up a rhyming word than it does to just say the 1st thing that comes into your mind. If you can't do that, you cannot and never will be able to rap well. You'll rely on a book of reference to give insight into what you're about. That's senseless. That's pretty f**kin far from hip hop's foundation. But I get it, to you guys I just sound like some old dude who is too stubborn to pick up a book.
How you win a battle when you gotta rely on a rhyme book to tell you what you can say about a guys "seamed purple slacks". That's ammo in itself, but I'm sure that book won't have anything about "Steve Urkel's back" in it. And you're gonna get booed flippin pages to see, lol.
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OneOff
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How weak is your hip hop foundation if you are afraid that a rhyming dictionary will change who you are as an artist? And who is talking about a rhyming dictionary BOOK in the first place?
Using a good rhyming dictionary SOFTWARE that can find assonance and family rhymes is a perfectly viable technique to trigger your brain to find multi-syllabic rhymes. After all that is what this thread is all about - regardless of your opinions about good and evil, life and death and the current state of hip-hop.
Olie
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two of the biggest names in hip hop, yeah they must be dumb. I don't like wayne but have you even analysed eminem's lyrics? everyone follow this guys advice if you want to stay underground your entire life. Peace, be sure to spit on you when i reach the top.
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Yatrix
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Check out freestyl.in
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^^^I didn't say they were dumb, lol. I'm saying you smart-dumb mthaf**kas think too hard. But I got the suburban world of net-rappers all against me on this one, so it's cool.
Next you'll read a book(or download software)to teach you how to flip an 8th or do a driveby so you can get street cred to back ya rhymes, huh? lol.
If you lack the comprehension and vocabulary to put together rhymes(multisyllibic or otherwise)and have to rely on other sources(books, net, ghostwriters, ect)you will NEVER exceed the talent of any given kids sitting on any given corner in any given town in the world who simply has the talent to do so. And rappers come a penny a dozen these days, and inflation is a muhfugga.
So be sure to spit on the guy giving you real advice when you get shytted on for using "C'est La Amour" in a rhyme. No one will buy that shyt but other bookworm FP nerds who run to books and documents everytime their talent is tested. You wanna be a rapper? Then you wanna be real, authentic to the craft. Show some damn respect. You wanna level up reading books, go back to playing Skyrim.
^^^Best advice you've ever gotten but you'll take it offensively cause you ain't even built to know the difference when you're given real talk. An A&R or MC you trying to jump on a track with would tell you how corny that shyt is in a way worse tone than I have.
Next you'll read a book(or download software)to teach you how to flip an 8th or do a driveby so you can get street cred to back ya rhymes, huh? lol.
If you lack the comprehension and vocabulary to put together rhymes(multisyllibic or otherwise)and have to rely on other sources(books, net, ghostwriters, ect)you will NEVER exceed the talent of any given kids sitting on any given corner in any given town in the world who simply has the talent to do so. And rappers come a penny a dozen these days, and inflation is a muhfugga.
So be sure to spit on the guy giving you real advice when you get shytted on for using "C'est La Amour" in a rhyme. No one will buy that shyt but other bookworm FP nerds who run to books and documents everytime their talent is tested. You wanna be a rapper? Then you wanna be real, authentic to the craft. Show some damn respect. You wanna level up reading books, go back to playing Skyrim.
^^^Best advice you've ever gotten but you'll take it offensively cause you ain't even built to know the difference when you're given real talk. An A&R or MC you trying to jump on a track with would tell you how corny that shyt is in a way worse tone than I have.
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OneOff
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I know. You have said the same thing in all your previous posts. And by all means if you suffer from such a severe case of rhyming dictionary anxiety please do sit in the corner and smoke dope. You can always come out of the corner to face your fears once you realize that rapping is like any other craft that will greatly improve with knowledge and practice.
Olie
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Things you have taught me oh wise one:
"You read books to get to the intellectual levels of 9th grade dropouts like Em and Wayne."
1) read books to get dumb
"If you gotta think that hard to be a rapper, you simply don't got it, sorry."
3) don't think hard and improve your skill.
"Go drink a 40", "Smoke a blunt", "Do a line", "Shoot somebody"
4) go to prison/rot your brain to improve your skill.
"Kids these days. No wonder rappers sound like they do these days."
5) sound like your in the 90's (because that sells soo well now)
"never grab a dictionary to learn how to spit" (only Eminem did that on a regular basis, so no waay it can help)
6) if you have a small vocabulary don't increase it, it won't help you rap.
"it's about rhyming in ways to make broken english make sense. You don't have to say I went to the park, you can say "the park, yeah, I went there""
7) don't learn the difference between broken English and grammar it will make you look as intelligent as me.
Only thing i agree with you on is not using a rhyming dictionary but i think it's for different reasons. What worries me most is someone gave your nonsense a like.
"You read books to get to the intellectual levels of 9th grade dropouts like Em and Wayne."
1) read books to get dumb
2) always contradict what you say
"If you gotta think that hard to be a rapper, you simply don't got it, sorry."
3) don't think hard and improve your skill.
"Go drink a 40", "Smoke a blunt", "Do a line", "Shoot somebody"
4) go to prison/rot your brain to improve your skill.
"Kids these days. No wonder rappers sound like they do these days."
5) sound like your in the 90's (because that sells soo well now)
"never grab a dictionary to learn how to spit" (only Eminem did that on a regular basis, so no waay it can help)
6) if you have a small vocabulary don't increase it, it won't help you rap.
"it's about rhyming in ways to make broken english make sense. You don't have to say I went to the park, you can say "the park, yeah, I went there""
7) don't learn the difference between broken English and grammar it will make you look as intelligent as me.
Only thing i agree with you on is not using a rhyming dictionary but i think it's for different reasons. What worries me most is someone gave your nonsense a like.
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SmoothKuik
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study guys that use that style. Eminem, The Saurus, and Mac Lethal comes to mind.
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Lol @ the "comprehension skills" of idiots...who encourage "studying"...with no comprehension skills.
But y'all the ones trying to figure out something as simple as rapping. Of course you don't have the mindframe to have read anything I said correctly.
Out of all I said, you get the idea I was literally telling you to go do drugs, shoot people, and drink a cup of tea? Then somehow get the impression I'm calling high school dropouts who went on to make millions "dumb". No, I simply said you shouldn't stick your nose in a book to follow their path. I wasn't insulting their intellectual levels, I was questioning people who can't keep up because it's NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I'm a high school dropout myself. Spent too much time in studios and touring to make it to class. I ain't gonna lie, I was doing drugs and shooting a people too. Go figure.
And I don't know Em's life, if he did use a rhyming dictionary, it figures, how white of him. Even from 8 mile you pick up those suburban traits through genes I guess. Take that sentence seriously too. lol. It's just as imperitive you're not white and doing "white people shyt" as it is you're doing drugs and shooting people.
Yet, Olie somehow "agrees" with the only foundation behind any post I made in this thread. Rhyme books in hip hop are a no no. Whatever. Stay doing what you do, it'll take you as far as it does.
But y'all the ones trying to figure out something as simple as rapping. Of course you don't have the mindframe to have read anything I said correctly.
Out of all I said, you get the idea I was literally telling you to go do drugs, shoot people, and drink a cup of tea? Then somehow get the impression I'm calling high school dropouts who went on to make millions "dumb". No, I simply said you shouldn't stick your nose in a book to follow their path. I wasn't insulting their intellectual levels, I was questioning people who can't keep up because it's NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I'm a high school dropout myself. Spent too much time in studios and touring to make it to class. I ain't gonna lie, I was doing drugs and shooting a people too. Go figure.
And I don't know Em's life, if he did use a rhyming dictionary, it figures, how white of him. Even from 8 mile you pick up those suburban traits through genes I guess. Take that sentence seriously too. lol. It's just as imperitive you're not white and doing "white people shyt" as it is you're doing drugs and shooting people.
Yet, Olie somehow "agrees" with the only foundation behind any post I made in this thread. Rhyme books in hip hop are a no no. Whatever. Stay doing what you do, it'll take you as far as it does.
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OneOff
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Eminem did OK with them and I don't think he is cares how anyone in an online forum feels about that. Do whatever works for you.
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup
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^^^Link to source? I ask because all i could find was him interviewing that he read a dictionary to improve his vocabulary and go on to rhyme a bunch of words with "orange" that I'd assume a rhyming dictionary wouldn't have rhymed with "orange".
He basically said the same thing I said earlier about making words and phrases go together when they shouldn't to rhyme. I never said I was against improving your vocabulary(even though I'm sure you somehow misread that I had with the comprehension skills on display in this thread), a rhyme dictionary isn't "advancing your vocabulary" it's just a copout to not being able to spit from your heart and keep it real with yourself. But I forgot that doesn't mean anythings these days. You just wanna get to the top and spit down on people who feel some of the foundations of hip hop should be preserved.
I'll say again, rhyming dictionary to rap? That's some sucka fake shyt. Like rapping about shyt you don't really do and have no affiliation to.
He basically said the same thing I said earlier about making words and phrases go together when they shouldn't to rhyme. I never said I was against improving your vocabulary(even though I'm sure you somehow misread that I had with the comprehension skills on display in this thread), a rhyme dictionary isn't "advancing your vocabulary" it's just a copout to not being able to spit from your heart and keep it real with yourself. But I forgot that doesn't mean anythings these days. You just wanna get to the top and spit down on people who feel some of the foundations of hip hop should be preserved.
I'll say again, rhyming dictionary to rap? That's some sucka fake shyt. Like rapping about shyt you don't really do and have no affiliation to.
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OneOff
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I must have indeed misunderstood...
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