How much to pay for a brand new MPC 3000 LE?

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Last week while shopping for some cables i ran across a brand new, never used MPC 3000 LE (the black special edition).

The store received 10 of those (all that were destined for the Netherlands) when it was released, and has sold all but one so far (it really is brand new, out of the box), so i wondered, since there are some knowledged mpc 3000 user/fans on here, how high a decent but reasonable price for this device would be?

I'm not telling what the owner asks for it at this point, because i want reasonable answers..

remember this device is brand new, so please don't suggest ebay prices, but reasonable ones ;)
 
i personally wouldn't pay more than $1,600 for ANY mpc.
 
the new price of the 3k le when it came out was approx. 3700$ so those estimated 1,1k to 1,6k are prices for used equipment.. this here is brand new


Beatz Galore said:
i personally wouldn't pay more than $1,600 for ANY mpc.
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well, then you're probably used to ebay prices..

we're talking about brand new gear here and you can't compare used gear pricing with new gear pricing

in some cases you can benefit from new gear (i.e. tax benefits and such), so just because you wouldn't pay more than a certain amount, doesn't mean that it's not worth much more than you'd pay for it..

look at the prices of i.e. the S6000 sampler or the Z8 when they came out, and still lots of people bought them, because that's what they were worth

people got "used" to ebay and other online auctions prices, and that's cool for private use, but if you own a company or can have taxial benefits you have to (and want to) go for new gear..

thanks for the replies by the way, but you're completely off, and i already got some reasonable and realistic replies on the akai mailing lists
 
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baggysound said:


well, then you're probably used to ebay prices..

we're talking about brand new gear here and you can't compare used gear pricing with new gear pricing
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well, i couldn't get a 3000 brand new anyway, so used, i wouldn't pay more than $1,600.

I personally wouldn't pay $2,800 for a mpc 4000 brand new. I could get one used on ebay for a little more than half of that.
 
brand new or not, the basic specs of it are kinda outdated. 1600$ would even be more than an mpc2000 which has better specs (ok, even i would choose the 300 over 200 any day, but still..)
 
I only want a MPC back for it's sequencer's ease of use. I've always wanted a MPC 3000 though. Only diff with me is, I'm used to the 2000's sequencer so when I finally USED a 3000's sequencer I wasn't feeling it. I would of gotten used to it sooner or later though.
 
A brand mew MPC 3000 is worth at least $2300. I would try to get it for $1800-$2000.

Now you can get MPC 2000XL used..but you never know what condition you wll get them in, especially on eBay where bedroom producers realize that they need money to pay the rent and get rid of their MPCs.

The XLs sampler and sequencer has more editing functions than the 3000. But I will choose the MPC 3000 over the XL anyday. If you are looking for an XL...I may have some more soon. I may even get rid of my MPC 3000 if I like the MPC 2500 when it is released...
 
jahrome said:
A brand mew MPC 3000 is worth at least $2300. I would try to get it for $1800-$2000.

Now you can get MPC 2000XL used..but you never know what condition you wll get them in, especially on eBay where bedroom producers realize that they need money to pay the rent and get rid of their MPCs.

The XLs sampler and sequencer has more editing functions than the 3000. But I will choose the MPC 3000 over the XL anyday. If you are looking for an XL...I may have some more soon. I may even get rid of my MPC 3000 if I like the MPC 2500 when it is released...
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Going from the 3000 to the other mpc's, don't it feel kinda CHEAP to u?

If (and when) I get an MPC again, I'll prolly go with the 4000 just cuz I really dig the interface on that. I already got a older (grimey) machine with a great warm sound in the ASR-10 (coming this week) so I don't think I'll need the 3000 (although it tiz beautiful :(). I like the 2500 but to me, it would be like having a 2000XL all over again with some new features and a SLICK ass design.
 
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Originally posted by Beatz Galore
Going from the 3000 to the other mpc's, don't it feel kinda CHEAP to u?
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Sure, Akai but in alot of work back in the day with the hardware of the MPC 60 and 3000. But the 2000XL is far from cheap. It is fairly robust in its own right. Today they are quite affordable so anybody can get one. But in the late 90s, a 2000/2000XL maxed out were double the price they are today..and there was no eBay MPC auctions. Minus the additional MIDI outputs, the XL can do everything the older models MPCs can do and more. Since I am a MIDI head...I still use the 3000...but may replace it with the 2500.

As far as 'slick' layout..the new MPC is very close to the XL..visually appears to use the same parts. With the additon of the CD RW drive and hard drive..it looks to be a fairly self-contained unit. I can imagine taking it with me on long road trips and creating beatz in the car while my wife drives :)
 
How come some catz say they RECORD there mpc's to like cubase or w/e, isn't the mpc supposed to be like a start to finish sequencer?
 
jahrome said:


Sure, Akai but in alot of work back in the day with the hardware of the MPC 60 and 3000. But the 2000XL is far from cheap. It is fairly robust in its own right. Today they are quite affordable so anybody can get one. But in the late 90s, a 2000/2000XL maxed out were double the price they are today..and there was no eBay MPC auctions. Minus the additional MIDI outputs, the XL can do everything the older models MPCs can do and more. Since I am a MIDI head...I still use the 3000...but may replace it with the 2500.

As far as 'slick' layout..the new MPC is very close to the XL..visually appears to use the same parts. With the additon of the CD RW drive and hard drive..it looks to be a fairly self-contained unit. I can imagine taking it with me on long road trips and creating beatz in the car while my wife drives :)
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I can dig that. I'm still trying to figure out which direction to go in also. I want the 3000 MAINLY cuz it's a Roger Linn MPC, the so-called "swing", the "punchier" sound & the fact that it's beautiful LOL I know that's a garbage reason but it just looks so much better than the rest of the family. I'm not planning on sampling on the 3000 at all.

I want the 4000 just cuz it sounds like an absolute BEAST. The interface looks dope as hell and reminds me of the 2000's (which I'm used to) but alot bigger. I just re-purchased an ASR-10, so I wouldn't be using the 4000 for sampling UNLESS I come to the realization one day that I HATE chopping on the ASR-10. The 4000 having that auto chop feature saves a LOT of time. Or I may just sample on both from time to time since the 4000 has alot of effects also.

Honestly, the only reasoning for me wanting the 2500 is cuz it's like a slimmed down 4000 & cuz it's design is ill.

ehhh, I'm LEANING heavily towards the 4000 after reading my post back to myself. Having the 4000 makes the Roland Fantom expendable IMO. I love the sounds on this thing but don't dig the sequencer, so the Fantom XR might be more suitable. If I can edit and manipulate sounds on that like I could on the keyboard version, I'll get that.
 
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How come some catz say they RECORD there mpc's to like cubase or w/e, isn't the mpc supposed to be like a start to finish sequencer?
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Cubase is a digital audio workstation with advanced MIDI functions. The MPC is a sampler and sequencer.

I create all my music with my MPC and synths. Than I record everything into Nuendo 3 (Cubase's big brother). There I mix, edit, add effects, etc. Sometimes I will add additional material to the songs I record using VSTi intruments within Nuendo....As far as the 'swing' of the MPC 3000 vs the other MPCs..I would say it is better or worst. They are different for sure. But if I made a tracks on both my MPCs, you couldn't tell which MPC I did it on.
 
jahrome said:


As far as the 'swing' of the MPC 3000 vs the other MPCs..I would say it is better or worst. They are different for sure. But if I made a tracks on both my MPCs, you couldn't tell which MPC I did it on.
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That is true. I will say this though, Jay Dee must use the swing on the 3000 a HELL of alot cuz his drum pattern swing be AKWARD but dope as hell. He's the only producer I ever heard that swings drums patterns like that.
 
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That is true. I will say this though, Jay Dee must use the swing on the 3000 a HELL of alot cuz his drum pattern swing be AKWARD but dope as hell. He's the only producer I ever heard that swings drums patterns like that.
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Though the MPC 3000 and the 2000XL have their own personality...the swing functions are set-up identically.
 
jahrome said:


Though the MPC 3000 and the 2000XL have their own personality...the swing functions are set-up identically.
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Would u say the 3000 has BETTER swing?
 
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