how did Kanye produce Last Call?

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Ok, first off, awesome tune, talks about he used his arrogance and rejection to fuel his dreams even farther. Just makes you wanna go out and get something done...but how did he produce this? and how did he get that little "here's to the roc" voice in the backround?

thanks
 
dkelloway said:
Ok, first off, awesome tune, talks about he used his arrogance and rejection to fuel his dreams even farther. Just makes you wanna go out and get something done...but how did he produce this? and how did he get that little "here's to the roc" voice in the backround?

thanks
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uhhh... he sampled a record. and made a beat. then he got someone to say "here's to the roc" and he looped that over and over again. added some mutes. dropped some tracks here and there. i don't really know what you're asking for. he made a beat. you can do it to. it's not that hard.

man, i had to listen to the song to see if there was something special about the song. i haven't heard that cd in like a year... my love for kayne ain't the same anymore.
 
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btw, kanye doesn't sample... he's got that dude he takes the songs to and the dude remakes the parts he wants and kanye uses those sounds.
 
That's still sampling, or "interpolating" if you wanna be technical abuot it. Same difference, but it does give a more organic sound to the songs.
 
1005 said:
btw, kanye doesn't sample... he's got that dude he takes the songs to and the dude remakes the parts he wants and kanye uses those sounds.
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really? i read about that, the guy was using logic and exporting to pro tools. but that was less about kayne and more about logic. thanks for the info 1005. good looks.
 
he sampled bette midlers"mr. rockafeller".if you listen tot he song you can tell where he sample that vocal part.

Holla back!!!!!!!!!!
 
chazzo said:
he sampled bette midlers"mr. rockafeller".if you listen tot he song you can tell where he sample that vocal part.

Holla back!!!!!!!!!!
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Naw, he interpolated a small vocal part. It's not a sample :)
 
1005 said:
btw, kanye doesn't sample... he's got that dude he takes the songs to and the dude remakes the parts he wants and kanye uses those sounds.
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Yes, Kanye does sample. Ken Lewis only recreated samples for like 3-4 songs on The College Dropout, and none on Late Registration as far as I know.
 
an interpololation recreates the original. Sampling is taking any audio and editing/reusing it in another medium. To be hyper technical Kanye samples interpolations.
 
LOL @ the wide variation of FACTS in this thread.

Only in the HHF.
 
like dude above said, Kanye does that only rarely. The only samples Ken's ever recreated are, "All Falls Down", "Never Let me Down" and "Gettin It In" (Jadakiss). On any track he's worked on with Kanye or Just Blaze, he just plays Guitar or Bass over the sample. (Like "Graduation Day, "Family Business", "Last Call" or Usher's "Throwback")

People just see that Ken Lewis article, and go off on a tangent and assume that's the process for every track. The only time producers like Kanye or Just Blaze hire him to recreate the sample is when it's impossible for the sample to be cleared. It's actually more expensive and time-consuming to recreate it, than just sampling from the record and having it cleared.
 
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I'm listening to the song. And the music in that song is sampled from "mr. rockafeller". Listen to the song. Go to bearshare or ***** and download the song you'll see.
 
chazzo said:
I'm listening to the song. And the music in that song is sampled from "mr. rockafeller". Listen to the song. Go to bearshare or ***** and download the song you'll see.
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interpolation :)
 
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Actually, both So Foolish and Chazzo are right...and wrong.

1st off, the song is Betty Midler "Mr. Rockefeller"

2nd, the music is replayed from the Betty Midler track...Kanye on the drums, Glenn Jeffery on the Guitar, and Ken Lewis on the organ,bass, piano, synths and saxophone :o

3rd, the vocals are re-interpretated (interpolatation refers to composition, not lyrics) from the Betty Midler track, and the harmonizing is from another track...it escapes me at the moment, but I know I heard it from another track a few years ago. :)
 
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d_ellington84 said:
Actually, both So Foolish and Chazzo are right...and wrong.

1st off, the song is Betty Midler "Mr. Rockefeller"

2nd, the music is replayed from the Betty Midler track...Kanye on the drums, Glenn Jeffery on the Guitar, and Ken Lewis on the organ,bass, piano, synths and saxophone :o

3rd, the vocals are re-interpretated (interpolatation refers to composition, not lyrics) from the Betty Midler track, and the harmonizing is from another track...it escapes me at the moment, but I know I heard it from another track a few years ago. :)
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Kinda of sad to think about it, he got Ken Lewis too do all that for that song. But hey DUDE made major cake off that album.
 
d_ellington84 said:
Actually, both So Foolish and Chazzo are right...and wrong.

1st off, the song is Betty Midler "Mr. Rockefeller"

2nd, the music is replayed from the Betty Midler track...Kanye on the drums, Glenn Jeffery on the Guitar, and Ken Lewis on the organ,bass, piano, synths and saxophone :o

3rd, the vocals are re-interpretated (interpolatation refers to composition, not lyrics) from the Betty Midler track, and the harmonizing is from another track...it escapes me at the moment, but I know I heard it from another track a few years ago. :)
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Yes... hence its an INTERPOLATION....

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Kinda of sad to think about it, he got Ken Lewis too do all that for that song. But hey DUDE made major cake off that album.
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Kanye got Ken Lewis to play what he wanted him to play. Why is that "sad" ??
 
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So Foolish said:
Yes... hence its an INTERPOLATION....
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You originally said this:
So Foolish said:
Naw, he interpolated a small vocal part. It's not a sample :)
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Which is grammaticly impossible :cheers:

You would of been correct if you had said "Naw, he had a Studio Singer re-interpret a small vocal part. It's not a sample" ;)
 
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Oh yes...and the hihats/background kick are from Love-Doggone, the same loop from "Get By", "I Changed my Mind", and a whole lot of other songs Kanye's produced ;)

The kick is from the same breakbeat Dr. Dre used for XXXplosive...it's from a rare Michael Jackson record...Carlos Bess (Wu-Tang engineer) revealed in an interview he gave the record to Dre back when 2001 was being created, and said Kanye sampled it from the original record...not XXXplosive. So he's the only one knows the actual record used.

As for the clap....it's from a D'Angelo track...I can't recall it at the moment, but maybe So Foolish knows :)

And more history on the track....

Evidence from Dialated Peoples made the original track, which contained a sample from the Betty Midler record...he asked Kanye to play it for Jay-Z, because he thought he might like it. Kanye actually did play it...during the Studio Sessions for the black album, but Jay wasn't feeling it. If you have "Fade to Black" the movie, you can see this, however the filmmakers edited Evidence's beat, with Kanye's replayed/re-interpreted instrumental, to avoid a potential copyright infringement lawsuit.

So there you have it...that's how "Last Call" was made :). I hope I answered the thread starters question :cheers:

So Foolish said:
Vocal interpolation.
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Interpolation, as an artistic term, refers to a Musical composition, as played by instruments. Vocal Re-Interpretation is the term you're looking for :cool:
Sorry, I'm just being an a s s h o l e :D
 
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