Here is how you clear a sample...

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Obitheincredible said:
Yeah usually if I sample something that I can play myself I just replay it myself.
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don't get it twisted now: if you reply, you still need to clear the sample and get a license !!! replaying something doesn't set you free!!!
if you use the master recording or in other words if you loop/use parts of the original record, then you also need in addition a license for use of the master recording.
 
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Troup, there's a lot of nay sayers in here! we can tell who is serious about this and who isn't. i say invest in yourself and go for it! good luck to you sir, and i can't wait til you get everything cleared so we can hear the song. also, thanks for the heads up on how to clear a sample.
LevLove
 
LevLover said:
Troup, there's a lot of nay sayers in here! we can tell who is serious about this and who isn't. i say invest in yourself and go for it! good luck to you sir, and i can't wait til you get everything cleared so we can hear the song. also, thanks for the heads up on how to clear a sample.
LevLove
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Thanx and no problem. I'm always about sharing what i've learned. Plus I know this very same topic has come up many times, so I figured I'd post up a definitive way to clear samples.
 
gnr2206 said:
when are you releasing the song troup?

i wanna hear it !
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When the sample is cleared and the album is done.



Her first single is coming in a few weeks. The song with the sample is gonna be like her 3rd single.
 
Even though i hate the idea of having to clear samples. this is very useful and correct information that we are all gonna have to use (at least for now).
 
Now that's it's 6 months later, I'm interested in the outcome Troup. Did you clear the sample yet? Was the price close to predicted? And do you still think it will blow up to the same proportions you originally thought?
 
lilro said:
Now that's it's 6 months later, I'm interested in the outcome Troup. Did you clear the sample yet? Was the price close to predicted? And do you still think it will blow up to the same proportions you originally thought?
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Wow...this post was in March of last year...



To answer your question, the situation ended up falling apart. We did 3 records, then it came time to start promoting those records, and start building a buzz. For me, that's done in large part via social media. Ustream, Youtube, Twitter, Facebook, etc. And it's up to the artist to go out and build the relationships with the fans, in order to build the interest in the body of work.

In this case, the artist didn't want to do it. I needed her to send 20 tweets per day. She didn't want to do it. She didn't want to be active on facebook, didn't want to do Ustream or YouTube.

I started growing frustrated, recording sessions became strained, and it all culminated in me sending her a "J.Troup Style" email, about how she wasn't doing enough to ensure the success of the project.

She didn't like that, and I haven't recorded with her since about June of 2010.



So to answer your question, we never even got to this record in particular. I never got to finish writing it, and we never recorded it, because she went all DIVA on me, because of me calling her to the carpet.

Then she moved out of the city.



You can hear an early version of the beat, here...

Be Grateful - Produced By J.Troup


I'd explain the concept of the song, but I still want to write and record it, so I don't wanna give it away.




But there you have it. As The Roots once said, Things Fall Apart...
 
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j.troup said:
Wow...this post was in March of last year...



To answer your question, the situation ended up falling apart. We did 3 records, then it came time to start promoting those records, and start building a buzz. For me, that's done in large part via social media. Ustream, Youtube, Twitter, Facebook, etc. And it's up to the artist to go out and build the relationships with the fans, in order to build the interest in the body of work.

In this case, the artist didn't want to do it. I needed her to send 20 tweets per day. She didn't want to do it. She didn't want to be active on facebook, didn't want to do Ustream or YouTube.

I started growing frustrated, recording sessions became strained, and it all culminated in me sending her a "J.Troup Style" email, about how she wasn't doing enough to ensure the success of the project.

She didn't like that, and I haven't recorded with her since about June of 2010.



So to answer your question, we never even got to this record in particular. I never got to finish writing it, and we never recorded it, because she went all DIVA on me, because of me calling her to the carpet.

Then she moved out of the city.



You can hear an early version of the beat, here...

Be Grateful - Produced By J.Troup


I'd explain the concept of the song, but I still want to write and record it, so I don't wanna give it away.




But there you have it. As The Roots once said, Things Fall Apart...
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Damn sorry to hear it didn't go as planned. And SMH @ me for only looking at the month...LOL.
 
It's a damn shame smh, why is it that more than half of the time the artist does not want to do the leg work associated with the come up yet express frustration when everyone is "sleeping" on them. For some odd reason they feel as though it must be handed to them on a silver platter. /rant lol

Btw. Troup whats up? I was active on here back in 2006, you were quite influential back then and I see that has not changed. I just came back to find out most of the people that were once heavy participants on the forums are no longer active.
 
lol...didn't even pay attention to the "it's been 6 months" part.

At the 6 month point, I had just accepted that the relationship had fallen apart, and that it wasn't going to be what I wanted it to be.

She was one of those artists who could "sing", and just thought that she was going to be DISCOVERED, and that she didn't have to do any real work.

I tried to tell her that it's 2010, and "getting discovered" doesn't exist any more. You have to make your own success. And the only "DISCOVERY" that counts, is being DISCOVERED by your future fans...you know, the people that actually buy your records.

Plus I told her, realistically, there's no record deal for a fat, 30 something year old black chick. So you're gonna have to build it on your own.


It was the truth, it's was the truth of the music industry, and she needed a major dose of reality.



Guess she really didn't like that.



But, as anyone with any length of time doing this thing will tell you, things happen. Most things don't go your way, but every once in a while, you get something that does go your way...every once in a while.


:cheers:
 
j.troup said:
She was one of those artists who could "sing", and just thought that she was going to be DISCOVERED, and that she didn't have to do any real work.

I tried to tell her that it's 2010, and "getting discovered" doesn't exist any more. You have to make your own success. And the only "DISCOVERY" that counts, is being DISCOVERED by your future fans...you know, the people that actually buy your records.

Plus I told her, realistically, there's no record deal for a fat, 30 something year old black chick. So you're gonna have to build it on your own.


It was the truth, it's was the truth of the music industry, and she needed a major dose of reality.



Guess she really didn't like that.
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Although I might have approached the situation a lil differently, I agree with J here. The truth is that as a producer you will meet a lot of people (assuming you actually get out there and work with artists) that will think that because they are nice on the mic that opportunity will just fall into their laps.

Anybody seriously active in the music industry understands the reality of just how competitive it is and if you think it isn't, just attend any "industry" function and see for yourself....

One thing that fux with me tho is the amount of people at these "industry" events that are looking to get "put" on....smh. I guess somebody forgot to tell them that its damn near 2012, and these days you gotta put yourself on.
 
SFTRAXX said:
Although I might have approached the situation a lil differently, I agree with J here. The truth is that as a producer you will meet a lot of people (assuming you actually get out there and work with artists) that will think that because they are nice on the mic that opportunity will just fall into their laps.

Anybody seriously active in the music industry understands the reality of just how competitive it is and if you think it isn't, just attend any "industry" function and see for yourself....

One thing that fux with me tho is the amount of people at these "industry" events that are looking to get "put" on....smh. I guess somebody forgot to tell them that its damn near 2012, and these days you gotta put yourself on.
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You don't understand how many ways I've tried it. The brutally honest truth has to be a last resort. Because regardless of whether I tell her or not, the facts are still going to remain the same.




I just sent another artist I work with this message...I guess I'm in a bridge burning kind of mood today!



"You're #7...that's great. But you only have 21 plays.

#1 song has almost 10,000 plays.

Imagine what you could be if you put some effort into actually spreading your music, and cultivating your fan base?

You want someone to come along and "discover" you...when are you going to realize that that's NEVER going to happen.

You're a black guy in his mid 30's. No record label is gonna put money into you...not in this climate of the music industry. But you still think that it's 1995, and labels are giving record deals out.

Wake up <name of artist>, and stop dreaming. You're doing nothing but getting older, and LESS marketable, with every year that goes by.

If you don't stop TALKING and start DOING, then you're gonna be singing in restaurants for peanuts for the rest of your life."




Shit is real out here people. Way real. Stop dreaming about it happening, and do what it takes to make it happen.
 
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