funk guitar chords.. compression settings..?

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trying to compress some clean guitar 16th funk chords but its just not going right.
what settings would you recommmend? ive got the attack set fast enough to catch 90% of the hits but once in a while a peak comes in and i go red and clip the compressor output.. if i set the attack really fast to catch them all then the guitar sounds dull.. any ideas?

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You can't compress over a forum, its like asking someone to fix a car over the internet.

I'd need a sample to work with first
 
just looking for some starting guidlines really.

one question really.. now i read that clean guitar should have around 5-15db of reduction with about 4:1-8:1 ratio.. now does this mean reduction on just the peaks or would the reduction be happening on the whole signal and hitting the heavy 15db of reduction on the loudest hits....? or does the guitar just sit under the threshold and only get reductin on the loudest parts...?

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Try using two stage compression. One with a really fast attack and high threshold to catch the worst peaks, and another behind it with a slwoer attack and lower threshold to do the main work.
 
Try a 8:1 and 5db reduction to start with, use the attact to increase the transients. If you want more of the ghost notes to come through then try using a faster release. Also, maybe try a low cut at 100Hz, roll off at 20khz, and a broad band at 10khz. (EQ before compressing) These are just suggestions, guessing really, so dont be dead set on numbers and just use what you know best, your ears. Also keep in mind that certain eq's and compressors sound different, so try different ones.
 
i believe it does need compression. its not very even at all.

the 2 stage compression sounds like an interesting idea. ill try it out.

also the eqing before the compressor too sounds interesting.

trying to get the old chic nile rodgers sound but without any luck lol
 
noblewordz said:
Does it even need compression?

Something like a guitar should always have some sort of compression.

Think of compression like a leash for a dog, allowing you to control where and when it goes and stops...

(man I just made up a wicked analogy lol)

So without the leach the dog can **** off anywhere and go sniffing other dogs asses whereas with the leach you can control it (to some extent)

So yes, a live guitar will as standard need some form of compression to control the dynamics and some EQ to allow clean placement in a mix.
 
Compression on guitar is where I learned about compression .Sustain my friend.
 
hi guys thanks for the help. been reading elsewhere its best to eq before the compression but doesnt that defeat the object? meaning if i increase by a few db at 1k and then compress isnt the compressor going to react against that increasement and in effect turn the 1k down? isnt that the way to create a "manual" de-esser..?
 
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Disasster said:
Try a 8:1 and 5db reduction to start with, use the attact to increase the transients. If you want more of the ghost notes to come through then try using a faster release. Also, maybe try a low cut at 100Hz, roll off at 20khz, and a broad band at 10khz. (EQ before compressing) These are just suggestions, guessing really, so dont be dead set on numbers and just use what you know best, your ears. Also keep in mind that certain eq's and compressors sound different, so try different ones.
why did you suggest i boost at 10k and then compress? was it to bring that area down or to accentuate it?
 
You can eq, compress, then eq again if you wanted to, it all depends how you want it to sound. If your going to use a HPF or LPF i would do it before compressing, the reason for that is so the unwanted frequences dont trigger the compressor.

jpgetty2win said:
why did you suggest i boost at 10k and then compress? was it to bring that area down or to accentuate it?

accentuate it, if it needs it.

daze84 said:
You should always A-B the comparison

Agreed, and make sure when you do the A-B comparison that there both around the same volume, otherwise your opinion might be bias.
 
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