Fruity Blood Overdrive

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a few months ago i was struggling to get the volume of my rendered track from fruity loops to be high enough (same level as when the song is playing in FL). someone on this site suggested i apply the Fruity Blood Overdrive plugin to the master channel to get the volume up. Thanks to that person because it worked and now the volume of my rendered tracks has gone up. The only concern i have at the moment is whether that plugin "damages" my mix in any way or is it ok to continue using it? i read the manual to try to understand the plugin but i still have that concern.

this is from the manual http://flstudio.image-line.com/help/html/plugins/Fruity Blood Overdrive.htm
(take note of the last point under "tips & notes")

Massive Mastering if you are around can you please give some input

Looking forward to your responses

peace
 
MM doesn't post here any more.

Does it do any damage? well its a distortion so its somewhat of the point. Does it sound good is what you need to ask yourself.

ME personally I wouldn't use it, I'd use a limiter. Something like the Kjaerhus Audio Classic Limiter. A limiter is more suited for the job. You could still use the Overdrive if you like the sound, just lesser amounts of it. Put the overdrive before the limiter in the FX chain.

Just my opinion, I'm not a pro like MM or anything. He is over at GearSlutz if you want to stalk him ;)
 
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thanx for the reply noble. i'll check out that limiter and do some reading about all these fx processors. basically i just want to get my mixes louder without clipping. and yeah i do wanna speak to MM as well so thanx for that info.

peace
 
what u need to do is make sure you also select the DB meter to your master channel as well. You never want it to be above -0 obviously, otherwise your work may distort on smaller radios, and in some cars. Depending on how high above 0 it is, it may simply distort on everything.

Also, are you mixing on monitors? The best way to make sure you have a good mix is too trust your ears and your monitors.
 
thanx for that premise. i'll put the dB meter on the master channel as well. at the moment i'm mixing on my creative 2.1 speakes (i know, i know, it's not the ideal setup but it's what i can afford at the moment). but i do use my ears, and other people's ears sometimes and i also try to listen to the track on cheap speakers and even on my cellphone just to get an idea of what may need to be done to the mix. i'll remember that i should stay below 0 dB as well. thanx.

peace
 
no doubt, before i got my Event monitors i was on a Fostex stereo system to mix so i can relate. It's a steady progression up into bigger and better equipment. I'm always tryna improve too.
 
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DO NOT USE A DISTORTION PLUG IN ON UR MASTER. im sorry but thats such the ass backwards way of thinking, slap ur friend lol. But no seriously why would u put a distortion unit on ur master channel when we try to make sure that it dosent clip? ie distortion? use a limiter and or compression. plus we gotta stop this loudness war its gay in so many ways we should just stop limiting everything lol
 
A while back I bought the Mastering Edition Loudness Maximizer by Steinberg and I like how that works. I only pump up my tracks to an acceptable level or CD level that will work on any system unless my mixing is off or something. I think Steinberg has a newer version of this plugin for about $50 now. You should check it out. I usually just open up my wav file in Sound Forge and just apply the plugin to the wav file. Quick and easy.

I agree with JimbaFrosty though, sometimes people make their tracks way way to loud. There was this time I was making some beats and decided to check out some battles on Rocbattle and the first beat I put on nearly made my ears bleed it was so damn loud. It pissed me off cause I wasnt expecting it, but I should have expected since almost everybody does that now.
 
Blood overdrive is a cool distortion/exciter plugin.

It does damage your mix, but if you use it right, it can improve your sound.

It's like, a lot of pro's will tell you that they like the way that the highend mixing consoles (or a lot of analog gear), like SSL will colour the audio in a very musical way.

Of course, a mixing console should not do any distortion, but if it sounds good, it will improve the sound. In the end of the day, if it sounds better, it sounds better.
 
yea i always use a waves L1 or L3 Ultramaximizer.

What you're trying to do is master your track. Best thing to do is mix and then master but i'll give you a mastering secret anyway
using an L1 ultramaximizer from waves
-pull the "out ceiling" down to -0.2
-then pull the threshold down until the atten is inbetween 0 and 3

I would loop the loudest part of the track (which is usually the hook/chorus), and then adjust where my threshold should be so that the atten level does not exceed the middle of 0 and 3

Hit me up if you have any further questions about mixing and mastering.
 
I wouldnt classify the blood overdrive in FL as a distortion tool. It can be used that way, but it really only adds some power to the mix. You can adjust it and you have too to make it sound right. The post-gain is a knob to use, in conjunction with the pre-amp knob. Lower the post-gain to bring down the effect, but simultaneously raise the pre-amp knob slightly, and you'll hear a non-distorted boost in your kicks (if mixed well prior to effect being added) and a mid-high end boost in snares. I love this effect and use on pretty much every beat I do.

I think my work sounds good :)
 
preMise said:
I wouldnt classify the blood overdrive in FL as a distortion tool. It can be used that way, but it really only adds some power to the mix. You can adjust it and you have too to make it sound right. The post-gain is a knob to use, in conjunction with the pre-amp knob. Lower the post-gain to bring down the effect, but simultaneously raise the pre-amp knob slightly, and you'll hear a non-distorted boost in your kicks (if mixed well prior to effect being added) and a mid-high end boost in snares. I love this effect and use on pretty much every beat I do.

I think my work sounds good :)
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i know its wrong to put another mans **** down but ur mix is not good at all. its clipping, sounds really grainy and is WAY too loud that **** needs to be lower cot dayum lol.


and idk why u wouldnt classify an overdrive as a distortion tool cos thats what it is lol distortion and over drive is the same thing just ..how can i say...the way the signal sonuds afterwards is like a diff kinda grainy sound if u know what i mean.

in no way shape or fourm should distortion and or overdrive SHOULD BE USEED ON THE MASTER TRACK at all thats just the most ass backwards **** ive heard on this fourm lol. its used for intruments NOT a master track ca man now ppl
 
everyone wants their music as loud as Pete Rock but they rarely contain the musical diversity to warrant such booming levels

not that PR is the loudest...but it does 'bump' nicely

even Madlib's older stuff with Lootpack

I beleive you just need better input sounds....perhaps treat them in the analoge realm...it seems to provide better headroom for boosting from what I hear

I've used that plugin on induvidual sounds but never on a Master...no way
 
thanx a lot for the responses guys. the main thing i seem to get from your responses is that i should apply the Blood Overdrive to individual instruments and not the master channel (it's also recommended in the manual). I've followed some guidelines and instead of applying Blodd Overdrive to the master i use the Multiband Compressor now (the compressor is only recommended for individual instruments not the master track). The one in FL has limiter capabilities and comes with presets, but i'm still trying to experiment with the knobs. thanx again

peace
 
magic stick said:
wassup fam

a few months ago i was struggling to get the volume of my rendered track from fruity loops to be high enough (same level as when the song is playing in FL). someone on this site suggested i apply the Fruity Blood Overdrive plugin to the master channel to get the volume up. Thanks to that person because it worked and now the volume of my rendered tracks has gone up. The only concern i have at the moment is whether that plugin "damages" my mix in any way or is it ok to continue using it? i read the manual to try to understand the plugin but i still have that concern.

this is from the manual http://flstudio.image-line.com/help/html/plugins/Fruity%20Blood%20Overdrive.htm
(take note of the last point under "tips & notes")

Massive Mastering if you are around can you please give some input

Looking forward to your responses

peace
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Unfortunatly the blood overdrive does both.. When your writing your tracks usually master volume is at a mid to minimum level, this is to keep from audio clipping and natural distortion from too much voltage..
Use a little Blood over drive and compression if your worried, Personally i would stay away from vst compressors and overdrives.. best bet is to record at around -5-8 db then re open the recording in an alternate program and normalize/compress etc.. reason i say this is because when your using those types of effects in your mix it's usually a channel by channel basis not only does this add for cpu usage and bit loss it can also have undesired volumetric effects on your final mix.. keep note though if used correctly there should be minimal post production mastering.
 
JimbaFrosty said:
i know its wrong to put another mans **** down but ur mix is not good at all. its clipping, sounds really grainy and is WAY too loud that **** needs to be lower cot dayum lol.


and idk why u wouldnt classify an overdrive as a distortion tool cos thats what it is lol distortion and over drive is the same thing just ..how can i say...the way the signal sonuds afterwards is like a diff kinda grainy sound if u know what i mean.

in no way shape or fourm should distortion and or overdrive SHOULD BE USEED ON THE MASTER TRACK at all thats just the most ass backwards **** ive heard on this fourm lol. its used for intruments NOT a master track ca man now ppl
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It's all good man, thanks for your opinion. I appreciate feedback from other producers. What track did you listen too?

I get good reviews from everyone i give discs too, on my mixes especially, but maybe you checked out one I could have done better.
 
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