For All You Miko & Neko Disbelievers!

[Sqito]

At the end of the day these Videos from the first post are nothing more than advertisement vids for their product - a Windows PC with a soundinterface and MIDI controller buildt into one unit plus a few bundled sounds and audio software (of which most of it is freeware anyway)

Even if I had multiple times the money to buy one I would rather still get myself a decent desktop PC or a laptop and attach the equipment to it I want.

 

[balma]

Well, that's the gist of it. I don't think most "bad-mouthers" think it's a bad product - it's not. It's just completely overpriced for what it offers, and partly because of that a lot of kids seem to be fooled into thinking it's something more than it is. Simple as that.

Absolutely overpriced!

think on the gear that you could buy with that money.... vintage and new releases.... OMG! (balma drooling)

Hartman Neuron.... Polyevolvers, Mooogs,

 

[BlkGost]

THEY HAD TIMBALAND USING TWO OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME AT THE VMA's so they must be doing something right.

They are.......not bouncing checks

I think the product is good, but bottom line is it uses windows. I have yet to find any windows platform even 95% reliable. But what I do find is the one important moment when you need it to work.......it will crash. I'm good on that. Don't fall victim to the advertising machine, use good judgment, because I'm getting the vibe that if Timbo was on stage playing the drums with two pieces of sh** that had a DW Drum badge on it, you may start hyping those also (if druming was your thing)........when you can just make them at home yourself eating bad food.

 

[7thangel]

They are.......not bouncing checks

I think the product is good, but bottom line is it uses windows. I have yet to find any windows platform even 95% reliable. But what I do find is the one important moment when you need it to work.......it will crash.

wrong forum.. you want the foolio mac vs. pc forum.

 

[BlkGost]

ahhhhhh how right you are lol

software vs hardware
man vs nature
mac vs pc

will the battles ever stop........................

-M

 

[floss]

i have one, and posted video in the rap and r&b section, and will continue to post as much as needed

If it aint for you it just aint, but if you like get it

I have one and enjoy it...

 

[Tha Wonder Chyld]

Aite look i hear folks talkin bout tha price but wat tha hell?!?Yall do realize that tha Timbo is only $3800 rite?!?And yes i kno i jus said "only" $3800 but sumbody tell me where you can spend only $3800 dollars and still get the sounds of the.......................

• E-MU™ Proteus™ 2000
• E-MU™ Mo’Phatt™
• E-MU™ Modular System™
• Ensoniq™ EPS™ /EPS 16+™
• Ensoniq ASR 10™
• Ensoniq ASR-X™
• Ensoniq ZR76™
• Ensoniq MR61™
• ARP™ 2600™
• ARP™ Axxe™
• Roland™ JD800™
• Roland™ Jupiter 8™
• Roland™ JX-8P™
• Roland™ TB-303 Bass Line™
• Roland™ Juno 60™
• Moog™ Memorymoog™
• Mini™ Moog™
• Moog™ Taurus Pedals™
• Sequential Circuits™ Prophet 10™
• Sequential Circuits™ Prophet 600™
• Elka™ Rhapsody™
• Mellotron™ Mark II™
• Korg™ MS20™
• Solina™
• Oberheim™ OB™ & X™
• Hammond™ B3™
• Rhodes™ Electric Piano™
• Hohner™ Clavinet™
• Yamaha™ CP-70™
• Wurlitzer™ Electric Piano™

ALL IN ONE!!!!Plus Mimik which can put some of your other fav sounds out of the Fantom,Motif,Triton or whatever u lik in there as well.THERE'S IS NOTHING ELSE FUKKING WITH THIS AND YES I'VE USED ONE.Saving to get my Timbo edition as i type this now and i can't wait.I understand that some people are perfectly fine without it,just dont want 1,or have doubts about tha Mimik system but look................there's no question that everyone on this forum should at least try this machine out.It's incredible and has super-producers in the industry goin crazy.Just had to shine a little light on it and voice my opinion yall

 

[deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup]

^^^The sad truth is there's equivalent ways of obtaining all these sounds on PC.

Everything the Miko/Neko does can be done the exact same way with any old PC. Every instrument on that list has 2 or 3 PC emulations already, and most have PC releases by/backed by the real companies.

All they are is computers running XP OS with a Presonus Firebox Preamp, and midi controller. FACT.

And anyone who knows about sound design(really knows) is aware a true emulation of the average hardware workstation would fall between 64 and 500mb. That's the size of one Motif patch off that thing, lol. No better than using average "translator" software or Triton/Motif/Fantom refills you get on Ebay for $20.

 

[Sqito]

Besides that thing being really ugly and hulking. Its size actually defeats the purpose everybody is praising it for. (It being a compact studio. Beat a laptop with a nice controller)
Damn. If I had the money I would buy it, install Firefox and Thunderbird on it, plug in my wireless LAN USB stick and use it for nothing else than for internet just to piss people off.

- "Hey, you have a Neko! Cool! It's THE ****! I have seen all the adsvertisement videos on their Website. Let's play!"

- "Nah, it's just my internet PC. Come over here and I'll show you my setup..."

 

[krushing]

I think what nags me the most about the thing is that for the price you'd expect to get 1) something a bit better than a $300 very average interface, 2) a premium, exclusive soundset that isn't made 80% of freeware and 3) a custom-tailored operating system, not friggin' XP.

If you've got cash to burn, fine. Gold bars make good paperweights as well, not that they perform any better than bricks.

 

[7thangel]

Aite look i hear folks talkin bout tha price but wat tha hell?!?Yall do realize that tha Timbo is only $3800 rite?!?And yes i kno i jus said "only" $3800 but sumbody tell me where you can spend only $3800 dollars and still get the sounds of the.......................

• E-MU™ Proteus™ 2000
• E-MU™ Mo’Phatt™
• E-MU™ Modular System™
• Ensoniq™ EPS™ /EPS 16+™
• Ensoniq ASR 10™
• Ensoniq ASR-X™
• Ensoniq ZR76™
• Ensoniq MR61™
• ARP™ 2600™
• ARP™ Axxe™
• Roland™ JD800™
• Roland™ Jupiter 8™
• Roland™ JX-8P™
• Roland™ TB-303 Bass Line™
• Roland™ Juno 60™
• Moog™ Memorymoog™
• Mini™ Moog™
• Moog™ Taurus Pedals™
• Sequential Circuits™ Prophet 10™
• Sequential Circuits™ Prophet 600™
• Elka™ Rhapsody™
• Mellotron™ Mark II™
• Korg™ MS20™
• Solina™
• Oberheim™ OB™ & X™
• Hammond™ B3™
• Rhodes™ Electric Piano™
• Hohner™ Clavinet™
• Yamaha™ CP-70™
• Wurlitzer™ Electric Piano™

i don't know about the other stuff but the actual sounds of the eps suck (those sound disks, ugh), it's the filters, limited sampling time and what you have to do to defeat it's limitations, bit rate, etc that make it special.

 

[balma]

And I wonder, how much will cost this almighty Miko, with his "unique features" in about 5 years...
Will lost value like a Jd800 or a Roland JUNO or like a Korg Ms 20?

And having the sounds of the JD 800, is not having the JD 800. Even "having" the sounds of a Roland JUNO is not having the sound of a Roland JUNO.

Does this unique MIKO engine has inside the DCOs of the JUNO 106 inside?, installed nex to the VCOs of the ARP AXE?
Maybe they are and I'm not well informed of the latest wonders of nanotechnology.

 

[vladb]

I have in-fact thought about purchasing one but, in the end im gonna say no thanks...Im just gonna get an iMac, buy Logic, and see what happens from there.

I dont think id be comfortable with a neko, for some reason I cant imagine the acoustics being any good

 

[Trusty]

Has anyone figured the cost of the specs (shell, controllers, interface, hard drive, RAM Processors, etc.), plus the cost of the features, verses the same power in a laptop plus software, interface, controllers separate, and see what the actual cost is and how much over the price is to have it in a single unit?

I mean, a Miko, with a dual core 2.1 gig processor, 2 gigs of RAM, 250 gig Hard drive, a presonus firebox (what the heck is up with shoving that in the shell???), 37 keys, 5 faders and a 7 knob box...the touchscreen is neither here nor there. For $3,500.00

verses

a laptop with the same specs and additional controllers.

Laptop $1700
Firebox $300
37 Key Controller lets say a quality one like the Novation Remote 37SL USB Controller Keyboard 37 Keys with Automap $500 (covers keys, knobs, faders, and also pads, which the MIko doesn't have)

$2,500.00 and leaves $1,000.00 for dome monitors and maybe a decent mic...or software, or whatever else.

The Miko is definately overpriced. The buyer pays about $1,000.00 to have it in a single shell. $1,000.00 is not worth that.

 

[deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup]

You can actually build a PC with those specs(gotta use that in pricing over a laptop, because all they are are built PC's in convenient shells)for about $700 max.

 

[balma]

there's no question that everyone on this forum should at least try this machine out.It's incredible and has super-producers in the industry goin crazy.Just had to shine a little light on it and voice my opinion yall

Roland JD 800: $700
Roland Juno 106: $350
Arp AXXE: $350
Korg Electribe: $150
Moog Rogue $550
EMU XL 7 $400
AKAI AX 60 $350
Nord Lead II rack $550
Yamaha DX7 $260
Beers: $30
Cuban Cigar: $ 5
Pizza cheese lover $ 12
Gas $ 20
Parkin ticket $ 3
Sony DVD $60

GRAND TOTAL: $3790

And $10 for you, I'm not selfish

Best Regards:

Miko disbeliever....

 

[Tha Wonder Chyld]

Roland JD 800: $700
Roland Juno 106: $350
Arp AXXE: $350
Korg Electribe: $150
Moog Rogue $550
EMU XL 7 $400
AKAI AX 60 $350
Nord Lead II rack $550
Yamaha DX7 $260
Beers: $30
Cuban Cigar: $ 5
Pizza cheese lover $ 12
Gas $ 20
Parkin ticket $ 3
Sony DVD $60

GRAND TOTAL: $3790

And $10 for you, I'm not selfish

Best Regards:

Miko disbeliever....

lol.dat waz a funny 1.But okaii i see sum of u guys points but i doubt everybody who's talking about "it's easier to just build 1" can actually do it.I mean that's kind of hard to do,especially for me.And lik i said i've actually tried this thing out and then have tried some of the actual boards in it at Guitar Center and THEY SOUND EXACTY THE SAME.So no arguments there,and with this system i really wont need ne thing else besides monitors and a mic.U can't really beat that unless u go all over EBay.But yea i kno to each his own so ill get mine and hope you all do well wit ur current equipment

 

[Sqito]

[...] But yea i kno to each his own so ill get mine and hope you all do well wit ur current equipment

thx for your concern and good luck with your new PC.. I mean: Neko

 

[Tha Wonder Chyld]

i don't know about the other stuff but the actual sounds of the eps suck (those sound disks, ugh), it's the filters, limited sampling time and what you have to do to defeat it's limitations, bit rate, etc that make it special.

Alrite but that's only 1 board out of all those on the list,but personally i've never heard that EPS or tried it so i respect ya opinion on that.Howevere i did read sumwhere bakk in this thread how someone wished it had the ASR-10 in there which would make it nice for them,now that's in there too

 

[deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup]

Dude, they're just soundbanks in a built computer. I have an MV-8000 disk, so I can use all the sounds from the MV-8000 on my computer. ASR pretty much the same, now if they included the filters, I respect that, but seriously doubt they did.

And anyone who's ever put together a barebone kit could put together a Neko/Miko if they had the case.

I'm shocked people are so brainwashed. A laptop with a interface and midi keyboard is just as efficient, way more portable, and way cheaper. And as soon as a hacker gets their hands on a Miko/Neko, all those "exclusive" sounds will be available for any home computer on ebay for $20.

It runs Windows XP, so to it's own OS, it's nothing but a computer, the OS won't treat it as anything more, that's all that needs to be said.