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I agree w/ you 100% on Marquez beating Pacman in their second fight (I agreed w/ the draw the first time around).
Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Marquez
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I agree w/ you 100% on Marquez beating Pacman in their second fight (I agreed w/ the draw the first time around).
TheDream23
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i wanna say marquez but since mayweather made a deal with the devil to go undefeated. im going to say mayweather
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Paradoxx
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I'm a huge Cotto fan but I also think his best fights MIGHT be behind him. Weather it was the Antonio Margarito fight, I dont know. But I do think Margarito cheated in that fight.
Mayweather didnt look great in that De La Hoya fight either and by official score cards, he barely beat De La Hoya. By his own admission, he said he gave the fans a dud in that fight.
On paper, Mayweather should win. He is faster, bigger, and probably stronger. But he has not fought in a long time and he is going in the ring with the number two pound for pound fighter in the world. Anthing can happen.
Honestly, I dont see anyone beating Pacman right now. Mayweather got a decision over De La Hoya...Pacman destroyed him and made him quit. Mayweather knocked out Hatton in the 10th round...Pacman almost killed Hatton in the 2nd round and many people were suggesting Hatton retire after Pacman knocked him out.
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biggrome
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Pac Man got the privilege of watching Mayweather fight both of them.
De La Hoya didn't manage to land one meaningful punch against Floyd... and if you're De La Hoya fighting Floyd and the fight is being promoted by Golden Boy Promotions... don't you think the fight would be close for Oscar, lol.
Look at what Golden Boy Promotions did for Juan Diaz... their fighter against Paulie Maliggnaggi...
De La Hoya didn't manage to land one meaningful punch against Floyd... and if you're De La Hoya fighting Floyd and the fight is being promoted by Golden Boy Promotions... don't you think the fight would be close for Oscar, lol.
Look at what Golden Boy Promotions did for Juan Diaz... their fighter against Paulie Maliggnaggi...
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MUSIKFIEND
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Mayweather will take this one. I can't wait for the Mayweather vs. Pacman fight thought. That one's gonna be epic.
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Paradoxx
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Mayweather didnt destroy De La Hoya. He didnt destroy Zab Judah. He didnt destroy Baldomir (or whatever his name is). He did destroy Arturo Gatti (RIP) and Diego Corrales (RIP).
Mayweather is on the borderline of entertaining and boring. His fights against Gatti and Corrales were great performances. The other fights I saw were either boring (his fight with De La Hoya, Judah, and Baldomir) or ok (Hatton). I know he's a great fighter but I've seen him too many times have the chance to really take a guy out and he doesnt. He just gets the decision and that's what I dont like.
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biggrome
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Floyd would rather keep embarassing you for the long haul, lol.
Hatton got KTFO... Judah tried to ruin the man for life... Baldomir didn't even land a punch - and has a brick head.... he sparred with Floyd when Floyd was going to fight Hatton.
De La Hoya look like he had never boxed a day in his life against Floyd...
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Paradoxx
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Floyd would rather keep embarassing you for the long haul, lol.
Hatton got KTFO... Judah tried to ruin the man for life... Baldomir didn't even land a punch - and has a brick head.... he sparred with Floyd when Floyd was going to fight Hatton.
De La Hoya look like he had never boxed a day in his life against Floyd...
Mayweather KO'd Hatton. What Pacman did to Hatton is getting KTFO!!! Having the chance to take someone out and you dont is not embarrasing or entertaining.
Actually you should follow him more. He has won titles in
Light Middleweight
Welterweight
Light Welterweight
Lightweight
Super Featherweight
Thats five weight classes not 3.
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California
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when is this fight ? the 19th ?
Vantage_West
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cool another am. join the club
i agree with alot of what your saying. mayweathers training is to dry out then rehydrate. he was bigger physcically than delahoya. 160lbs is easy. when guys like josh clottey goes form 147 pounds to 170lbs (heavier than calzaghe on fight night) paul williams is 168 pounds at 154 limit. mayweather clearely cuts the weight well and rehydrates as soon as he steps off the scales.
marquez sadly isnt like this, he is of the old school of stay in shape, come in shape........and drink piss
. i jest. but still he isnt a big guy in comparison. pacman dwarfed him who even tho short is a solid built peep. also me perosnally i don tthink pacman is unbeatable as hbo are trying to make out. an aggressive, speedy, southpaw will get caught and bullied when he faces a big enough,technical, solid enough opponant. did anyone marquez-pacquiao 1&2 it's clear that marquez boxed enough to win both fights. but that doesnt mean he is able to box mayweather.
also marqez is mildly chinny (at world level a slight weakness is a big weakness) but if juan diaz who is a very agressive but light punching lightweight was able hurt him with a left hook then a right cross, left hook i think could land and end it. also berrera who was a shadow of himself missed roudn after round until he landed aright cross and made marquez do a dance.
i think it's a bad match up for JMM he is a solid top 5 p4p but he is a smaller man in comparison and against a guy who doenst take chances makes me wonder what he is able to bring to the table.
Vantage_West
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WAR JUAN
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Vantage_West
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on big romes thing about hatton. it's a pretty unfair critique of ricky hatton. he is an agressive left hooker with awkward agility and good stamina. i think he is a pretty decent fighter. some manchester city fans saying "yeah he is going to knock out roy merryweather". is not the people who should represent him.
hatton has always had a problem with boxers...why not he has low hands and darts in with a hook. even at british level he was gettign bullied (like someone was tkaing his money) by a irish fighter called eamon magee. a solid southpaw with a decent dig and good techncial skills made hatton look amatuerish. also a journeyman who later got to euro level called jon thaxton who also got stopped by emanuel augustus if anybody knows who he is, was landing at will on hatton (think he broke ricky's nose).
while mayweather was cementing his superfeather,lightweight and now on to light welter hatton has just got onto serious world level after defending that vary valuable wbu strap.....
too little step up in too small a time.
also malignaggi-diaz was a pure clinic. surprised how bad the judging was. no way was that a diaz fight it was all paulie. crazy judgement.
anyone heard of tyson fury? he was fighting for the pointless english heavyweight title against a solid but rotund donut called mcdermott. big mac walked right through this guy for 8 of 10 rounds.......and it's declared a fury win by 8 roudns to 2. there should be an investigation unbelievable tish.
hatton has always had a problem with boxers...why not he has low hands and darts in with a hook. even at british level he was gettign bullied (like someone was tkaing his money) by a irish fighter called eamon magee. a solid southpaw with a decent dig and good techncial skills made hatton look amatuerish. also a journeyman who later got to euro level called jon thaxton who also got stopped by emanuel augustus if anybody knows who he is, was landing at will on hatton (think he broke ricky's nose).
while mayweather was cementing his superfeather,lightweight and now on to light welter hatton has just got onto serious world level after defending that vary valuable wbu strap.....
too little step up in too small a time.
also malignaggi-diaz was a pure clinic. surprised how bad the judging was. no way was that a diaz fight it was all paulie. crazy judgement.
anyone heard of tyson fury? he was fighting for the pointless english heavyweight title against a solid but rotund donut called mcdermott. big mac walked right through this guy for 8 of 10 rounds.......and it's declared a fury win by 8 roudns to 2. there should be an investigation unbelievable tish.
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biggrome
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Yeah, I saw Marquez drinking urine...
sickening... lol.
The fight is on the 19th Cali... I'm not buying it though. I might buy PacMan vs Cotto though.
Paul Williams vs. Kelly Pavlik is a must see!
Bhop offered Roy Jones Jr a 55/45 split for a fight and Roy said he'd take it if he could get his commentators job at HBO back in the deal.
Roy destroyed Jeff Lacy (but not worse than Joe CalSlappy)
sickening... lol.
The fight is on the 19th Cali... I'm not buying it though. I might buy PacMan vs Cotto though.
Paul Williams vs. Kelly Pavlik is a must see!
Bhop offered Roy Jones Jr a 55/45 split for a fight and Roy said he'd take it if he could get his commentators job at HBO back in the deal.
Roy destroyed Jeff Lacy (but not worse than Joe CalSlappy)
medafORACLE
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mayweather started at 130 which is lightweight won belt...the light middle weight 154 fight was the vacant de le hoya fight...he never faught 154 but that one fight...he has a belt in 130-147 which is three weight classes. the other are vacant title belts which means you dont fight that weight class and noone in that class holds it so its not a world title fight and or belt....he has three world titles which he's held for ten plus yrs
medafORACLE
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i couldnt agree more.cool another am. join the club
i agree with alot of what your saying. mayweathers training is to dry out then rehydrate. he was bigger physcically than delahoya. 160lbs is easy. when guys like josh clottey goes form 147 pounds to 170lbs (heavier than calzaghe on fight night) paul williams is 168 pounds at 154 limit. mayweather clearely cuts the weight well and rehydrates as soon as he steps off the scales.
marquez sadly isnt like this, he is of the old school of stay in shape, come in shape........and drink piss
also me perosnally i don tthink pacman is unbeatable as hbo are trying to make out. an aggressive, speedy, southpaw will get caught and bullied when he faces a big enough,technical, solid enough opponant. did anyone marquez-pacquiao 1&2 it's clear that marquez boxed enough to win both fights. but that doesnt mean he is able to box mayweather.
also marqez is mildly chinny (at world level a slight weakness is a big weakness) but if juan diaz who is a very agressive but light punching lightweight was able hurt him with a left hook then a right cross, left hook i think could land and end it. also berrera who was a shadow of himself missed roudn after round until he landed aright cross and made marquez do a dance.
i think it's a bad match up for JMM he is a solid top 5 p4p but he is a smaller man in comparison and against a guy who doenst take chances makes me wonder what he is able to bring to the table.
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MUSIKFIEND
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That Roy Jones Jeff Lacy fight wasn't pretty, lol. Roy looked like his old self again. He's still fast as hell.
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biggrome
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather_Jr.
Mayweather has won six world boxing championships in five different weight classes
Argue with Wikipedia
3.1 Super Featherweight
3.2 Lightweight
3.3 Junior Welterweight
3.4 Welterweight
3.5 Super welterweight
That logic is ignorant. If you fight for a belt vacant or not it counts as a WORLD TITLE regardless. And Lightweight is 135 pounds not 130. For someone who claims to be a boxer you don't know much.
The Light Middleweight strap he won in the Oscar Fight was not vacant Oscar won it from Mayorga. TSK TSK never ever tell anyone else to follow boxing more.
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