first mexican rapper with skills?

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Txican said:
mainstream never really is what the people want anyways.
and I am sure things will realize much sooner than 2050, so you can eat your words early. so u saying "Gasolina" only did so well because of Lil'John?
That song was already on and poppin way before that fool jumped on. not even talking about reggaeton specifically, so much more bigger than that.
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Mainstream is EXACTLY what "The people" want. It's why it is called mainstream. No need to eat my words. I guess you dont realize that the rest of the US just isnt like Texas. TX has a huge Latino population, and that is wonderful, that is why the music coming out of that region sounds like it does. And that is why trends in TX/the SW US do what they do.

Thing is, the rest of the country, even Latino heavy populations like NY, Atlanta, and Chicago, just do NOT rock Latino Hip Hop, reggaeton, or the polka music stuff, unless they are Latinos. They are demographic specific genres. The labels for these genres dont produce music with the intent on anyone outside of their "niche" to purchase these products. They appreciate it, naturally, but they dont have that expectation. Hell, I can go into music stores in the Latino section of Atlanta and see easily 30-40 hip hop records performed by Mexican/Boriqua/Latino artists, but you wont find those releases in any non Hispanic majority neighborhood store anywhere in the metro area.

You opinion is yours, and you obviously get defensive when people dont support your genre (reggaeton). But people are giving you assessments of what their personal hoods are doing. You would do well for yourself to just soak it in and find out where you already do and dont have an audience for you genre, as well as figure out where your music might sell (based on the words of the streets that are being spoken here). Rather than getting defensive about people saying what is going on in their hoods.

Oh, and yeah, the general public would have never heard Gasolina in their clubs if Lil Jon hadnt done the remix. Would have only been heard in reggaeton/salsa/ethnic clubs. At least that is the situation in the ATL. If it hadnt been Lil Jon, no one woulda cared, they were busy snapping their fingers and doing the Poole Palace to worry bout Gasolina till Lil Jon did the remix.

It is what it is!
 
Alabaster said:
Mainstream is EXACTLY what "The people" want. It's why it is called mainstream. No need to eat my words. I guess you dont realize that the rest of the US just isnt like Texas. TX has a huge Latino population, and that is wonderful, that is why the music coming out of that region sounds like it does. And that is why trends in TX/the SW US do what they do.

Thing is, the rest of the country, even Latino heavy populations like NY, Atlanta, and Chicago, just do NOT rock Latino Hip Hop, reggaeton, or the polka music stuff, unless they are Latinos. They are demographic specific genres. The labels for these genres dont produce music with the intent on anyone outside of their "niche" to purchase these products. They appreciate it, naturally, but they dont have that expectation. Hell, I can go into music stores in the Latino section of Atlanta and see easily 30-40 hip hop records performed by Mexican/Boriqua/Latino artists, but you wont find those releases in any non Hispanic majority neighborhood store anywhere in the metro area.

You opinion is yours, and you obviously get defensive when people dont support your genre (reggaeton). But people are giving you assessments of what their personal hoods are doing. You would do well for yourself to just soak it in and find out where you already do and dont have an audience for you genre, as well as figure out where your music might sell (based on the words of the streets that are being spoken here). Rather than getting defensive about people saying what is going on in their hoods.

Oh, and yeah, the general public would have never heard Gasolina in their clubs if Lil Jon hadnt done the remix. Would have only been heard in reggaeton/salsa/ethnic clubs. At least that is the situation in the ATL. If it hadnt been Lil Jon, no one woulda cared, they were busy snapping their fingers and doing the Poole Palace to worry bout Gasolina till Lil Jon did the remix.

It is what it is!
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as far as mainstream, more often than not it is manipulated by outside sources the mold it to potray otherwise. not always, but it does happen a lot.
yea i hear what you are saying, i guess i do find it hard to hear how segregated other places really are, it's a shame that sometime's hip-hop isn't enough of a common denominator. And yea I was speaking on the entire SW not just TX. And once again I am not talking reggaeton alone, what do you mean by "your genre" because originally hip-hop was only being spoken on.
And once again I have seen many place outside the SW including the midwest that do support latino music outside the race, so this can not be spoken on behalf of all.
And okay, props to lil jon for serving as the middle man in that situation, bridging genres to combine audiences to benefit both parties, because it works both ways as for as gaining audiences, so accrediting lil jon soley on the track's success is not right. a lot of ppl hadn't heard of him before he did the song with daddy yankee as well. that's really what it should be about, not discriminating against based on the worst reasons, it's really about embracing one another and expanding upon it's community not hating on what's different and new.
c'mon how do you expect hip-hop to grow w/out ?
 
See you and I are in agreement here. I also find it sad that the music can divide even further rather than pull folks together. But like I said, it is what it is. I said "your genre" referring to reggaeton based on your avatar. And the fact is was part of the discussion previously, but that is neither here nor there.

I wish we could get more action like what you describe as the situation for Gasolina. You are spot on, the song was out there, and getting appreciation in the reggaeton spots and starting to move on up into other spots, but adding Lil Jon's name to it (especially at that time, he was on EVERYTHING) made it just BLOW THE **** UP. If we could get more cross genre collaboration, hip hop would be strong again. I dont know if folks remember, but in the early 90s when hip hop was entering the "Golden Age", you would hear 10-15 songs play on the radio (mainstream) but none of them sounded alike. There wasnt as much of this genre micromanaging (electronica are HORRIBLE about this, if all the DnB heads, Trip hop heads, House fans, Garage fans, Junglists, etc. got together and made a solid electronica movement, they could have what Hip Hop had in the 90s, but even bigger, cause Electronica is so huge on a worldwide level. Actually, they shoulda done it back in the early 2000s, when you couldnt watch a commercial on TV without hearing some techno or trance or DnB.)

Anyway, this has been a good convo with some intelligent "arguements", a rarity around this site these days to get this kind of discussion.
 
I've worked with Rob my self .. no disrespect to him .. but the homie SPM is by far the best in Mexican Rap
 
i was avoiding this thread so i wouldnt have to argue glad to see the peeps who did represented hard. texas stand up
 
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VG Skillz aka V Zilla is dope!!!
 
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W.A.I.S. Krew said:
i was avoiding this thread so i wouldnt have to argue glad to see the peeps who did represented hard. texas stand up
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yea i had to come down on it, i could never avoid an issue that i feel so strongly about, and i'm never scared of a good argument for the sake of defense, gotta keep Texas up all day.
 
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Kid Frost is worth checking out sometime. Cypress Hill, that's all I got, anybody else got some names to drop.
 
can someone upload some frost its been a grip since ive heard him. this is for tha raza
 
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