Famous rap producers that record in analog

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Ya I'm going to an analog studio for the first time tuesday and a good friend of mine told me that analog sucked and to not use it at all. I've heard some of his work and its pretty good not tha best but good so I wanted to know if any producers record in analog that I would know by name and if there quality is good then I know I'm making the right choice
 
i doubt it's all analog, i'm sure there is some digital something in there. and don't believe your friend, analog does not suck. Technically it's clearer then digital, but you'll never really hear the difference.
 
I agree with purify, although i have little experience in this area, i know a lot of producers/engineers run their mixes through various analog hardware to achieve a depth that is not possible to get with digital equipment e.g. someone was telling me recently thay run the final mix through a reel to reel, the ultimate form of analog recording.

i owuld be interested to know what u thought when u go?
 
Texas Boy said:
...and a good friend of mine told me that analog sucked and to not use it at all.
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This pretty much says your friend doesn't know what he's talking about at all. Most experienced engineers will probably complain that digital stuff still isn't quite up to par with high-end analog...
 
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krushing said:
This pretty much says your friend doesn't know what he's talking about at all.
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Ha! Exactly what I was thinking. But "analog sucks" could mean a lot of things. Maybe he's just not familiar with it. Recording, editing & mixing on analog gear requires more knowledge & time. No wav files to cut & paste(among other digital conveniences), so in that sense...

But analog recordings are a truer representation of the music. Digital recordings are a mathmatical representation of the music... a series of 1's and 0's. Anything that falls in between gets pushed/pulled to the grid, making it sound stiffer.

If you listen close, you'll notice that music recorded with analog gear, and stored on analog media(vinyl) will sound smoother... especially on the low end.

The moral is, if you have access to analog gear, use it. It has character you can't get from digital equipment.
 
u guys talk like everyone could get hardware equipment of like one billion dollars, + a own studio.
then analog > digital.

in analog u cant like save ur song, and work on another one and try stuff. then go back, if u dont got digital mixer with like "save parameters" options or what its called.
analog top of the line stuff may make ur song have that nice touch to it, though u cant redo stuff as easy as in digital. Digital u can change the sound of the song as u proceed, if u dont excactly know what kinda sound u need from all the instruments, i doubt anyone can do that.
Imo digital helps so much in making ur song better as a real song, instead of just focusing on the quality of the sound. its not like the consumers will think of that when they listen to it.

i thought of a question, like in logic pro 7 or cubase with ur own effects, what would the price of that be in hardware? that would be fun to know. if someone compared the effects.

well nvm me just thought sum
 
i've worked behind neve and ssl consoles before with a rack behind me worth well over $300,000
but the studio also had all that hooked up with a HD3 system. both digital and analog have pros and cons... the BIGGEST con with analog... Tape.. if any of you cut 2inch tape before you'd know what i mean. if you mess up the cut you just fuc*ed up.
these days with so many ppl using digital setups you'll often hear:
digital sounds to thin and others..i'm not getting that deep

if you have a quality front end, your already half way there (apogee,prism,benchmark,larvy,)
personally my new setup is about to consist of motu HD192 converters clocked through a 2192 or 896hd with apogee converters via litepipe clocked through a 2192.
not cheap but i'm willing to spend to have the sound i want plus i'll be highering prices :)


when it comes to digital vs analog you often hear ppl say(digital sounds thin)


then use a vintage style pre via:
neve 1073,1084, 1272 etc
telefunken 672's etc..

if not the real unit chandler, api,great river, tubetech, Massenburg and many others have reissues that cost a fraction of the cost.

if a new style compressor controls peaks better but you wanna add some harmonics or another tone.. get a la2a, la3a, la4a 1176, dbx165, decca, a 33609 the list can go on.

mics. mics these days sonically can't be touched but if you want the colour of a classic mic go buy a u47, u67, c12, u87(not ai's) 251... etc. these days you can get reissued u47's under $2000 same with a 251. when doing r&b those would be some great mics to have. for rap vocals i like the 251 on some artist but something about a 47 on a country ass rapper here in atlanta makes me grind my teeth. don't forget about some old ribbon mics too.

Converters alone make a big difference in sound...

i could go on and on but i just had surgery on my hand. so i'm through for now
 
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carlan said:
u guys talk like everyone could get hardware equipment of like one billion dollars, + a own studio.
then analog > digital.

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Yeah, that's very true. My comment was mainly aimed at the ignorant "analog sucks, don't use it" statement. Maybe he isn't familiar with it, but then again he shouldn't be saying stuff like that.
 
if analog sucks why even listen to music... show me digital converters when motown had the industry on lock.
studer tape machines, neve consoles/eqs/preamps, u47 and other classic mics that cats envy today.

when i send tracks to my partner that does mastering he does 2 versions for me.. 1 pure digital(some analog eq's comps etc) and he does another that he runs over his 24track.. both sound good but something about 2inch tape...gotta love the sound. if you don't wash your ears
 
yeah i got ur idea krushing. some ppl dunno the good sides of analog.

i didnt think this was just a compare of sounds divineATL. i mean sure, that lineup sure makes analog sound real good.

i was more into the recording things aswell, and editing. not just the sound, kinda ment the output of the song as a whole itself.
i think sometimes ppl worry too much bout the mastering and quality of the song until they forget the feeling of the song that they wanted to share in the first place

xcuse my english
 
carlan said:
i think sometimes ppl worry too much bout the mastering and quality of the song until they forget the feeling of the song that they wanted to share in the first place
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That's my main concern with about 99% of the young bucks on this site. A good song is a good song even if recorded in a subway station with a broken dictaphone. Too many people skip the "good song" part and just worry a little too much about the sounds. I agree that the whole production scheme has shifted in a different direction over the years, but the principles still remain the same.
 
krushing said:


That's my main concern with about 99% of the young bucks on this site. A good song is a good song even if recorded in a subway station with a broken dictaphone. Too many people skip the "good song" part and just worry a little too much about the sounds. I agree that the whole production scheme has shifted in a different direction over the years, but the principles still remain the same.
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analog sucks to work with, u need big consoles and clear converters to really get anything out of it. However the sound if done properly is impecable. I dont do hip hop, but i cant believe hip hop people dont use it. Digital falls appart in low frequencies analog does not and the compression is beautiful by comparison.

You'll find what most mastering engineers bounce or run it on and off tape in record mode on a 2track 1/4inch analog recorder.

Stereo-> 1/4 analog -> high price converters -> analog eq and compressors -> sonic -> stereo :)

anyways all i mean is they try to fake the nice sound at mastering and hence it has become a much more important part of the chain than it use to be. :)
 
definitionofself said:
analog sucks to work with, u need big consoles and clear converters to really get anything out of it. However the sound if done properly is impecable. I dont do hip hop, but i cant believe hip hop people dont use it. Digital falls appart in low frequencies analog does not and the compression is beautiful by comparison.
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Are you sure you're talking about an analog console? Analog doesn't have anything to do with converters.
 
yeah im sure ;) even though ur not :)

ur medium is digital! normally :) hence u gotta convert it somwhere and if they arnt good then whats the point! :)
 
Tracking to analog=no converters needed.

An analog studio will be tracking to tape rather than a DAW. Converters do not play a role in this scenario.

If a track is being tracked to a Digital Workstation then that's a whole different thing.

Think about this, you never actually hear digital audio. So how is it that it sucks working with analog?
 
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