dollar beats, 5 dollar beats, what's the deal?..

[Cash_Daily]

Everybody is coming with great point of views. We'll see. Good luck Troup.

 

[j.troup]

To each their own... I think the $1 per beat can be a gift or a curse, depending on who sees it as a benefit or disadvantage. I will sometimes do this as a special sale to increase traffic a little, but not to keep it this way as a set price. Could be something as an annual or semi-annual sale.. got that little tip from the place my wife gets soaps and lotions from, Bath n Body Works.. they'll do a twice a year sale, generates business, and traffic, and keeps loyal customers even when the sale's not on. Selling at $1.00 all the time will make some people think "damn, great price!" but those more serious be like "why is the price so cheap? Cheap beats? nah, I'll go somewhere else". Could always create two websites and set up different beats... the ones you're not so concerned with on one page for dollar beats, and the ones you put more into for your own site. Could link both to each other if you wanted.. just my two cents.

That's the thing with beats. You can hear exactly what you're getting before you buy it.


I can understand somebody saying "hmm...why is this car so cheap? $100? Must be something wrong with it...i'm gonna go somewhere else."


But with beats? You can hear them right on the site. They'll say "hmm...99 cents? Why's his beats so cheap?"


Then they'll listen. And they'll be like damn, these joints bang.



Then they'll think THIS DUDE MUST BE ON CRACK, I BETTER GET THESE BEFORE HE COMES TO HIS SENSES!!


I've had it happen a few times last week already, from people buying them off my PMP page.




And those that still feel that way, then fine. If they don't want the products, then I encourage them to go somewhere else to get half the quality at 300 times the price.

 

[George Kush]

That's the thing with beats. You can hear exactly what you're getting before you buy it.


I can understand somebody saying "hmm...why is this car so cheap? $100? Must be something wrong with it...i'm gonna go somewhere else."


But with beats? You can hear them right on the site. They'll say "hmm...99 cents? Why's his beats so cheap?"


Then they'll listen. And they'll be like damn, these joints bang.



Then they'll think THIS DUDE MUST BE ON CRACK, I BETTER GET THESE BEFORE HE COMES TO HIS SENSES!!


I've had it happen a few times last week already, from people buying them off my PMP page.




And those that still feel that way, then fine. If they don't want the products, then I encourage them to go somewhere else to get half the quality at 300 times the price.

Do you sell exclusive rights to your tracks for tracks for .99 cents, or just performance rights?

What do you do if the artist uses your beat for a radio or tv commercial?

Just asking out of curiosity.

 

[j.troup]

Do you sell exclusive rights to your tracks for tracks for .99 cents, or just performance rights?

What do you do if the artist uses your beat for a radio or tv commercial?

Just asking out of curiosity.

Non-exclusive. Exclusive rights at 99 cents would be insane and a complete and total waste of one's life.


If an organization use it for a radio or TV commercial, they just have to send the proper cue sheet to ASCAP, so that the IndustrySound.com producers get the performance publishing.


That's all. No advances, no payments, no nothing.

 

[MUSIKFIEND]

If an organization use it for a radio or TV commercial, they just have to send the proper cue sheet to ASCAP, so that the IndustrySound.com producers get the performance publishing.


That's all. No advances, no payments, no nothing.

So you're gonna have other producers sell beats on IndustrySound.com too besides just your own production??

 

[j.troup]

So you're gonna have other producers sell beats on IndustrySound.com too besides just your own production??

I'm assembling a staff of contributors, both on the music and non-music sides.


But it will NOT be a free-for-all, "sign up and sell your beats" thing.

 

[Scratch n Beat]

Man I don't care how you slice it, selling beats for .99, $1, 10$, etc is ridiculous. To me its just reflecting the value you place in your own music and if you selling it for that...its not much. Dude hit me up on myspace talking about selling 10 beats for 25 dollars the other day. I think cats are losing it.

 

[j.troup]

Man I don't care how you slice it, selling beats for .99, $1, 10$, etc is ridiculous. To me its just reflecting the value you place in your own music and if you selling it for that...its not much. Dude hit me up on myspace talking about selling 10 beats for 25 dollars the other day. I think cats are losing it.

I place the same value on my music that Beyonce places on hers.

 

[biggrome]

Just make up 5 production names and sell beats at different prices under all of the names. You'll be the same person running all of the sites you sell the music on but nobody will ever know.

... or just have beats set at different prices on your one website. That's how Dre does it... 50 Cent said Dre has some budget beats and he has a vault where you'll have to dig down to the lint in your pockets to afford one of the expensive beats. He sets the prices based on how dope he thinks it is... Not a one size fit's all price.

You don't like every beat you make and some of 'em don't take a lot of time. Sell those for cheap. Some you really like and they take a while to complete. Sell those for more.

You could fire up your ish right now and crank out a $0.99 joint in about 15 minutes....

 

[Scratch n Beat]

Just make up 5 production names and sell beats at different prices under all of the names. You'll be the same person running all of the sites you sell the music on but nobody will ever know.

... or just have beats set at different prices on your one website. That's how Dre does it... 50 Cent said Dre has some budget beats and he has a vault where you'll have to dig down to the lint in your pockets to afford one of the expensive beats. He sets the prices based on how dope he thinks it is... Not a one size fit's all price.

You don't like every beat you make and some of 'em don't take a lot of time. Sell those for cheap. Some you really like and they take a while to complete. Sell those for more.

You could fire up your ish right now and crank out a $0.99 joint in about 15 minutes....

Now I can dig different values for different beats cause we all know all the beats you make are NOT created equally. But of u make one worth .99 cent it might need to stay in the vault!

 

[vizionheiry]

There are different market segments for different products.

A guitarist will not buy Guitar Hero, but a preteen will pretend to play the guitar for hours and hours.

I think that's a great analogy for the $1 beat consumer.

They purchase a beat that gets them excited about rapping, not necessarily to give them the skill of emceeing.

It's a different market segment, folks. Your target audience may differ from the beatmaker selling the $1 beats.

Both ways work as long as there's a business plan underneath.

 

[j.troup]

Just make up 5 production names and sell beats at different prices under all of the names. You'll be the same person running all of the sites you sell the music on but nobody will ever know.

... or just have beats set at different prices on your one website. That's how Dre does it... 50 Cent said Dre has some budget beats and he has a vault where you'll have to dig down to the lint in your pockets to afford one of the expensive beats. He sets the prices based on how dope he thinks it is... Not a one size fit's all price.

You don't like every beat you make and some of 'em don't take a lot of time. Sell those for cheap. Some you really like and they take a while to complete. Sell those for more.

You could fire up your ish right now and crank out a $0.99 joint in about 15 minutes....

If the site was JUST about selling beats, then the multiple aliases would work. But I wanna run one central brand. I can't do all the things TVA I'm gonna do on IndustrySound.com, on like 5 sites at the same time.


Plus too, one thing I learned bout beats very early on is that one mans trash is another mans treasure. Bears that I think are hot, other people hate. But beats that I ain't really feeling, people flip over.


I remember was in a meeting up at ASCAP playing beats, and this one beat came on, and I told him to skip it, cuz I didn't think it was hot. It caught his ear before he could skip it...

He was like "why were you gon skip this, this joint is hot. It's big, sound like somebody going to war!" he turned it up and started frantically texting on his berry.


That track was MEETING WITH GOD. Listen at www.JTroup.com



So I price all my beats the same, and let them sort em out.



In Da Club is the same price as all of 50cents other songs.

 

[Smithgrind137]

The proble with people on this board is that they are more interested in FAME than they are in getting PAID.


Wal-Mart does 10's of billions of dollars in sales every year.


How much does Louis Vuitton and Gucci do?


Think about that.

I don't mean to get off topic or correct something that was meant to serve as a rhetorical question, but Louis Vuitton Moet Hennessy holding company made 25 billion dollars in 2008 according to their annual performance report...

 

[j.troup]

There are different market segments for different products.

A guitarist will not buy Guitar Hero, but a preteen will pretend to play the guitar for hours and hours.

I think that's a great analogy for the $1 beat consumer.

They purchase a beat that gets them excited about rapping, not necessarily to give them the skill of emceeing.

It's a different market segment, folks. Your target audience may differ from the beatmaker selling the $1 beats.

Both ways work as long as there's a business plan underneath.

I don't necessarily see it that way.


Just because the beats are 99cent doesn't mean that they are lower in quality or any less hot than major placement beats that are going for 5 stacks...

So the 99 cent beats are for the pre-teen who wants to learn how to rap, as well as the 25 year old with a major buzz, who's on his 5th mixtape installment, as well as for the established major who's looking for beats and songs for their next album.


So the market is one and the same.


Ever wonder why everything is priced with a .99 at the end? From cars, to gas, to CD's to TV's???


That 99 is engrained into the American psyche.


So understand, the price point is as much about psychology and marketing as it is about money.

 

[zuzz]

Selling cheap beats won't work. The scrubs that are in that market/price range steal everything online. They won't pay a dollar.

The only shot you'll have is if it ranks #1 in Google for the keyword "Hip Hop Beats" or "Rap Beats". Hip Hop Beats had 165,000 searches in Google last month. Rap Beats had 246,000. Free Beats had 201,000.

The online rule of marketing is only 1% of your traffic will buy. If you ranked #1 for Rap Beats that would only be $2,460 a month if people bought 1 download/beat. 10 downloads from each of those visitors would be $24,600 though.

The chances of ranking #1 are slim because every site that ranks high for a competitive keyword is from a webmaster into blackhat SEO. Just having a good site isn't enough. If your site did do good naturally they would drop it's ranking within 24 hours.

 

[vizionheiry]

We can respectfully disagree, J. Troup.

The 25 year old with 5 mixtapes should have established a connection with a local beatmaker/producer by the second mixtape.

The majors already have established routes of entry into the industry.

The 99 cent non-exclusive instrumental seems to be targeted toward the entry level consumer.

 

[j.troup]

Selling cheap beats won't work. The scrubs that are in that market/price range steal everything online. They won't pay a dollar.

The only shot you'll have is if it ranks #1 in Google for the keyword "Hip Hop Beats" or "Rap Beats". Hip Hop Beats had 165,000 searches in Google last month. Rap Beats had 246,000. Free Beats had 201,000.

The online rule of marketing is only 1% of your traffic will buy. If you ranked #1 for Rap Beats that would only be $2,460 a month if people bought 1 download/beat. 10 downloads from each of those visitors would be $24,600 though.

The chances of ranking #1 are slim because every site that ranks high for a competitive keyword is from a webmaster into blackhat SEO. Just having a good site isn't enough. If your site did do good naturally they would drop it's ranking within 24 hours.

That's why only 1 of 4 the revenue streams for the site is dependent on people spending money.




It's so funny that people are so quick to say that it won't work. They act like Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, Twitter, Myspace and Facebook were all born out of multi-billion dollar companies.


All of those companies came from young, broke ass kids, with a passion for technology.



So excuse me while I show my ass to the moon on my way to the stars.



Have fun in your cubicle.

 

[j.troup]

We can respectfully disagree, J. Troup.

The 25 year old with 5 mixtapes should have established a connection with a local beatmaker/producer by the second mixtape.

The majors already have established routes of entry into the industry.

The 99 cent non-exclusive instrumental seems to be targeted toward the entry level consumer.

Feel free to disagree. Not a problem. I enjoy the different viewpoints!



Beats is only about 1/10th of the products and services that IndustrySound.com will have.

 

[zuzz]

It's so funny that people are so quick to say that it won't work. They act like Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, Twitter, Myspace and Facebook were all born out of multi-billion dollar companies.

WRONG. Twitter was started by the guy that sold Blogger.com to Google for millions of dollars. MySpace was started by guys that work for a big marketing company. All of the others had venture capital too.

IndustrySound.com will fail hard. I can tell by the screen shot you posted of your title tag for the site. You know NOTHING about being a webmaster. You can blibber blab on FP as much as you want from your posts it's easy to tell you don't know much about making websites or the business involved in it.

 

[j.troup]

WRONG. Twitter was started by the guy that sold Blogger.com to Google for millions of dollars. MySpace was started by guys that work for a big marketing company. All of the others had venture capital too.

IndustrySound.com will fail hard. I can tell by the screen shot you posted of your title tag for the site. You know NOTHING about being a webmaster. You can blibber blab on FP as much as you want from your posts it's easy to tell you don't know much about making websites or the business involved in it.

They GOT venture capital...after they already had a great idea and had it going.

That's how venture capitalists work. They see a great idea in action, and they throw money at it to make it blow.


You sound mad yo. Why? I don't understand.



Wait. I saw your website. I do understand your hate.


Nevermind.


Mr. UBER web design master.