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Jersey8five6
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Ms. Toi, who u guys might remember from Warren G's "Lookin at Me" and Ice Cube's "U Can Do It" (i think that's her), had a song on "The Wash" soundtrack called "Everytime," and according to Discogs.com & Wikipedia, it's produced by Soopafly. on the Wikipedia article it says "contains a sample from Get Dis Money performed by Slum Village." the thing is, it is the exact same beat! they didn't do **** to it! The drum programming, the synths, listen to it all and it just screams Jay Dee!
i know usually the original producer doesn't get credit when the beat is lifted from another song, like on Capital Punishment, when Big Pun & Fat Joe spit over the Deep Cover Beat, it said produced by Big Pun & Fat Joe instead of Dre. the difference that i'm seeing here is that, on the Pun example, they were the artist and took credit for "Producing" the track, and technically, they did since they just spit over it and it was their idea, but on the Ms. Toi song, Soopafly, who is supposed to be a producer in his own right gets credit, and he probably did "produce" it if he sat there and told her how to sing the song and all that.
My question is, would u guys take FULL "producer" credit on a song if u were working with an artist who lifted a beat off another song? even if u were producing by definition of the word?
also, if u were in the position to do it, would u take full producer credit on song if u "produced" it, again by definition of the word producer, but somebody else made the beat?
look forward to seeing u'r responses. here's the songs:
The Wash Soundtrack- Ms. Toi- Everytime (Produced by Soopafly, Track 16)- Everytime-
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=2095563&BAB=E
Slum Village: Fantastic Vol. II- Get Dis Money- (Produced by Jay Dee, Track 11)-
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6789563&BAB=Z
sources:
The Wash OST- http://www.discogs.com/release/600498
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wash_soundtrack
Slum Village- Fantastic Vol. II- http://www.discogs.com/release/246209
i know usually the original producer doesn't get credit when the beat is lifted from another song, like on Capital Punishment, when Big Pun & Fat Joe spit over the Deep Cover Beat, it said produced by Big Pun & Fat Joe instead of Dre. the difference that i'm seeing here is that, on the Pun example, they were the artist and took credit for "Producing" the track, and technically, they did since they just spit over it and it was their idea, but on the Ms. Toi song, Soopafly, who is supposed to be a producer in his own right gets credit, and he probably did "produce" it if he sat there and told her how to sing the song and all that.
My question is, would u guys take FULL "producer" credit on a song if u were working with an artist who lifted a beat off another song? even if u were producing by definition of the word?
also, if u were in the position to do it, would u take full producer credit on song if u "produced" it, again by definition of the word producer, but somebody else made the beat?
look forward to seeing u'r responses. here's the songs:
The Wash Soundtrack- Ms. Toi- Everytime (Produced by Soopafly, Track 16)- Everytime-
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=2095563&BAB=E
Slum Village: Fantastic Vol. II- Get Dis Money- (Produced by Jay Dee, Track 11)-
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6789563&BAB=Z
sources:
The Wash OST- http://www.discogs.com/release/600498
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wash_soundtrack
Slum Village- Fantastic Vol. II- http://www.discogs.com/release/246209