Cubase SX3 buffering and Sample rate

  • Thread starter Thread starter thapi
  • Start date Start date
T

thapi

Guest
Can anyone please advice me on how to increase the buffering of my playback in Cubase SX3? In FL i know you just go to audio settings and u push up the buffer slider....simple. But in Cubase i cant find a similar option.

Can anyone exaplain what 'Sample rate' is and what happens when i push it up to higher figures and i know the standard is usually 44100hz or something like that
 
The buffer setting in cubase is set by your soundcard. The project sample rate is adjusted by going to project>project setup. For some information on sample rates try searching google. Basically the higher the sample rate the higher the quality and the bigger the file size. I personally record at 92 khz at 24 bits.
 
So there is no way to increase the buffer through cubase?
Do you know how i can increase the buffer on my soundcard?
 
There are no buffer settings in cubase 4. I'm not sure what version you are using but i am going to assume that is correct. What soundcard do you use?? I would assume that if you check the control panel of your system you will find your soundcard settings there.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
All of the above is drivel. If you want to adjust your buffers in SX3, go to [b[devices/device setup/VST audiobay[/b] just below the audibay will be the name of your ASIO device. Click on that and look to the right, where you will see a button marked ASIO control panel. This is where you set your buffers (although, depending on your ASIO device, it may be marked latency) Set to the lowest possible setting without introducing pops and crackles.

As fo rthe sample rate, I would recommend recording the same passage several times at different sample rates. Can you tell the difference? Didn't think so. Record at 24 bit/44.1 KHz this is about the standard.

Recording at higher sample rates is useful if you are in a top commercial studio and you have amazing converters at your disposal, but is pretty much useless in a home studio setup.

Hope this helps.

p.s. the settings are exactly the same for Cubase 4.
 
Last edited:
hackenslash said:
All of the above is drivel. If you want to adjust your buffers in SX3, go to [b[devices/device setup/VST audiobay[/b] just below the audibay will be the name of your ASIO device. Click on that and look to the right, where you will see a button marked ASIO control panel. This is where you set your buffers (although, depending on your ASIO device, it may be marked latency) Set to the lowest possible setting without introducing pops and crackles.

As fo rthe sample rate, I would recommend recording the same passage several times at different sample rates. Can you tell the difference? Didn't think so. Record at 24 bit/44.1 KHz this is about the standard.

Recording at higher sample rates is useful if you are in a top commercial studio and you have amazing converters at your disposal, but is pretty much useless in a home studio setup.

Hope this helps.

p.s. the settings are exactly the same for Cubase 4.

Hey hackenslash,
I been searching for a few tips on "pops and crackles" but couldn't find much, even if you could direct me to a thread on here that has that info that would great. I'm recording with Cubase 4 @ 44.1 HZ/ 24 bits and I have the buffer set to 512.......I tried a few other buffer settings and still have the "pops and crackles" coming through. Any tips would be appreciated, thanks brotha!

-E
 
The higher the buffer the less likely you will get pops and crackles. Just make sure that the latency doesn't go to high.
 
Umm. buffer size has more to do with your soundcard than cubase itself. In cubase, when you change the settings, you are changing the settings of your audio interface.

However, if the project sample rate does not match the audio interface sample rate, you will get the chipmunk/deepthroat effect.

pops and crackles are usually related to a sync problem more so than sample rate. While I have been able to fix problems in the past by changing the buffer size. You can also check signal levels. I've seen it happen. lol

Sample rate is not all that important in a home studio. However, higher sample rates will cause you to use more hardrive space by creating bigger files. 44.1/16 is really adequate for making demos. And if you ever get to release something, it will be mixed down to that anyway.

And if massive weighs in on this subject, and we hope he wont because he will call us all stupid, I believe that the higher sample rate have something to do more with the quality of the bass of a signal or something like that. But you have to remember, most everyone else who is listening is listening in the standard 44.1/16.
 
Higher bit depths are important, too, as they give you more room in which to work without clipping. 24 bit is excellent value, and the difference is audible. Brooklyn is correct when he says that most people are listening in 16/44.1, but this is after mixing and mastering, at which point the audio is dithered to 16 bit, as CD audio only runs at 16 bit/44.1 KHz. Higher sample rates are useful in top line studios, as some top hardware converters work more efficiently at those rates, not because it necessarily sounds better.

In Cubase, all internal processing is done at 32 bit floating point, which gives infinite floor- and headroom, so clipping internally is not possible, as the effective range is in the thousands of decibels.

After 24 bit, the difference is not going to be audible.

Buffer sizes have nothing to do with Cubase, it's true, but they also have very little to do with your soundcard. They have much more to do with load on your CPU. Setting your buffers to a higher setting reduces load on your CPU, as more of the incoming/outgoing audio is buffered in RAM, rather than being directly processed at too high a rate for your CPU, which is why you get pops and crackles on lower buffer settings. If you are getting up to around 512 or 1024 sample buffer sizes and you are stil experiencing pops and clicks, it would suggest that your CPU is no fast enough and/or you need more RAM.

If you look at the Cubase fora at www.cubase.net , you will find a huge amount of information on this as it pertains to your application.
 
Thanks for all the tips fellas, it's much appreciated!!
 
Back
Top