Correct format for an RNB song

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what is the format for an rnb song is it the same as a rap song if not what is it plz help im writting and producing my frist rnb song and i want it to be correct so i have confidence to do another
 
Intro, Intro Hook, Verse 1, Hook, Verse 2, Hook, Guest Rap Vocal (optional Popular-Artist-Of-The-Week Guest Wanker Vocal), Hook (with pseudo-"ad-lib" vocals) -optional Bridge or Spoken word section, with ad-libs continuing- Hook again, with even more obnoxious ad-libs, fade out as ad-libs become overpoweringly cheese-laden.

Formula. Bleah.

-Hoax
 
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@ Hoax

No really, it would be horrible if all music was constructed with formulae. Horrible, I tell you.
 
8 Bar intro w/ spoken word
8 Bar Hook
8 Bar Verse
8 Bar B Section
7 Bar Hook
15 Bar Didgeridoo Solo
4 Bar Verse
11 Bar B Section
28 Bar Comic Opera
8 Bar Hook
Repeat Hook
Kazoo Symphony to Fade
 
Rodney Greene said:
8 Bar intro w/ spoken word
8 Bar Hook
8 Bar Verse
8 Bar B Section
7 Bar Hook
15 Bar Didgeridoo Solo
4 Bar Verse
11 Bar B Section
28 Bar Comic Opera
8 Bar Hook
Repeat Hook
Kazoo Symphony to Fade
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damn, man...you left out the 24 bar wombat choir interlude...how dare you!?!?
 
i would like 2 thank hoax for his help and say **** the dumbasses who produce with out a format

how do u expect someone to listen to listen to a track without structure yet alone purchase it

and i only asked the question because i never produced an rnb track and i know that the formats are different
 
Dutch Deniro said:
how do u expect someone to listen to listen to a track without structure yet alone purchase it
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No offence, Dutch, but if you're asking that question, you're never going to get it.

Not everyone's goal in music is money.

I do wish you luck with your endeavours though.
 
Dutch, I believe the best way forward for you is to learn music theory and understand the way songs are composed. RnB is predominantly worked off blues and jazz scales, or they were when music was music, however today, it seems that almost anything goes and the more sparse a track and with as little musical content as possible seems to be a seller. This is due to providing the diva with space to perform as many trills as possible and thus guarantee a grammy. If you want to understand real RnB then go back to the 70s and early 80s for some of the best RnB you will ever have the pleasure to listen to.The progression of blues and jazz led to soul, then soul funk, then disco and...you get the picture?
Notable are:
Stevie Wonder
Earth Wind and Fire
Brass Construction Band
Herbie baby
Aretha Franklin (my fav)
Gap
etc...etc....
 
krushing said:


damn, man...you left out the 24 bar wombat choir interlude...how dare you!?!?
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OH SNAP!! Ive just been outdone

damn i can't stop laughing at "wombat choir"
 
Dutch Deniro said:
how do u expect someone to listen to listen to a track without structure yet alone purchase it
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You missed the point. Completely. Structure and format are different things, at least in this case. I didn't mean a song shouldn't have structure, what I did mean was that you shouldn't start composing a song in some preset fashion, thus making it formulaic. Building a song structure should have a natural flow, which will come to you with experience and knowledge. I just think it's a flawed approach to making music if the first thing on your mind is "how do I put this track together so it sells". Trying to compose with your mind already set in a pattern of "this has to be 16 bars long" and "the chorus has to start at this point because all the hit songs have a chorus here" is like driving a car with someone constantly telling you when to turn the wheel or hit the brakes.

Peace.
 
heres a few formats:
intro
8bar verse
8bar chorus
8bar verse
8bar chorus
8bar bridge
8bar verse
8bar chorus

or

check out pharrells frontin to peep this format.

intro
4bar verse
4bar hook
4bar chorus
4bar v
4bar hook
4bar ch
8bar bridge
4bar v
4bar ch

some rnb songs have no brigde

and i noticed on b2k's last cd alot of their verses were 4 bars also. just listen to a variety on rnb tracks and take note of how they are mapped out.
 
There is no "Correct" pattern, but I usually do 4 bar intro, 16 bar verse 1, 8 bar hook, 16 bar verse 2, 8 bar hook, 8 bar bridge, 16 bar hook/ending. But I will switch it up and vary. Depends on what I am feeling at the time and also depends on the writer and what they need.
 
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