best of mixers: vestax 170a or Stanton RM3

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Im just about to buy a mixer and want to know what everyone thinks of the Vestax 170A and the Stanton RM3???

I don't really want to spend anymore than this. My mate has the 170a and i have tried it out. It seems good to me. although one major problem i found straight away , with the 170a, is that the Eq's/Kills don't work when using headphones.... So you can't tell if bass/voice etc is cut properly when switching to your monitored track! :mad:

It seems that the stanton RM3 does have this feature.

any help would be greatly appreciated! :)
 
Sorry if this doesn't help, but I think it depends on how long you want it to last and how much you want to spend.

The Vestax 170A will last you for quite a long time if you take care of it and use it properly and the downside to that is that it costs about $299 (U.S.).

I haven't used the stanton, but Stanton RM-3 only seems to be good for beginers / at home djs. The RM-3 is listed at around $279(U.S.) The good side to the RM-3 is that you can get a store like Guitar Center to match the price that the RM-3 is listed for on bid2bid.com, which is $224(U.S.) and you will have a professional store to back you up if anything happens to the mixer and you won't have any hassles over the internet. You can also bid on the RM-3 on the bid2bid.com website and get it for under $200(U.S.).


Hope any of that helps


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I use the 170a for about a month now, and i love it!!!
i think it's much better than the RM3... if i were you i would go for the 170!!!:D
 
without a doubt get the 170a!!!!


that mixer is da bomb!!!

u cant beat the thing man, it seriously is a ****ing rocker :D:D


for d and b especially :D:D
 
thanks all! :)

Well thats settled then :D i was kinda thinking of the 170a cause my friend just bought one and i have had a play around with it a fair bit so im already used to it....

My problem with it though is that you can't hear EQ changes in the headphones...is this something i was doing wrong?

:(
 
haven't bought it yet but im definately getting the 170a

:)
 
Just thought I'd post a reply as I had a 170 for a while. I'm assuming you guys must be new to the game of DJ'ing because in all honesty that's just a waste of money. 1st the PMC-170 has a steep *** fader not to mention that all th fadders and knobs feel cheap. I don't know what type of music you spin or what exactly you are looking for. This is indeed a great mixer for a beginner. What most new DJ' don't seem to realize is that you get what you pay for. Why not just save up more $$$$ and get yourself a good mixer that you won't out grow in a year or 2. That's like spending $800 on a DJ package and getting cheap Gemini tables when you coulda just saved up another $200 and got yourself the technics. I'm not tellling you what to do, just warning you that you'll end up buying another mixer sooner then you think, as always tho to each their own.
peace,
sergio
p.s. no need to get all worked up if you were offended by this post. I'm simply posting a review by someone with experinece on these mixers and attempting to save this guy some $$$$. :rolleyes:
 
no offense taken.

The bottom line is this guy's looking for an affordable mixer and affordability vs. build & features the pmc 170/a is he best of them listed.

Yes considering all we've said the knobs are still plasticy and I think I'm losing a bit of faith in my crossfader.

Hmm I dunno lol, now you've got me messed up, I still like the mixer though, and ofcourse there's high end mixers but we're talking affordability, something he could use for 2 years or so, that's just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes, sometimes you can't get the technics and the pio djm500/600 all at once and you'll have to upgrade and yes spend a bit more money in the long run.

PS. I think the stanton rm-3 is rumoured to have a higher x-fader curve than the pmc. And you can always compensate for a high vca curve by using the nice long 60mm channel faders that you get on the pmc (stanton has this also). The Numark's I know have shorter channel fades and the vca curve is just as sharp if not more.
 
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Riiiiiiiight....I don't use my fader any ways I just mix with the volume, I mean I use it to slam in traxx or just to phase but that's about all. Actually I wouldn't even recommend the Pioneer 500 or 600....I know everyone talks the world of these mixers, but have you ever played on one of these things and felt how hot it gets after 1 hr of play, even in a well ventilated area, it's kinda crazy......IMHO I think $1200 is too much to spend on a mixer that may catch on fire lol :D ...nah for real tho I'd get either the Xone:62 or the Xone:464 I believe...now those mixers are f****n solid ;) <~~~~ drool.
peace,
sergio
 
saw richie hawtin here in his hometown use a x: one62 it is a solid mixer :) Roland dj100 is also niceand if you ask me now after seeing that video demo I think the korg kass is pretty good too.
 
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Actually I wouldn't even recommend the Pioneer 500 or 600....I know everyone talks the world of these mixers, but have you ever played on one of these things and felt how hot it gets after 1 hr of play, even in a well ventilated area, it's kinda crazy......IMHO I think $1200 is too much to spend on a mixer that may catch on fire lol

I'm still waiting for mine to catch fire.
It does get heated up after prolong use but that doesn't mean it is bad, does it?
As long as the mixer is well-ventilated, nothing disastrous will happen.
Yep.... seems like Allen & Heath are taking over.
However, I still prefer the traditional channel faders, easier to grasp on when slamming mixes. VCF filters on them are simply amazing.
 
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well kauz, i am sorry if you think your a world class dj and we are all your feeble pessants,


but i dont beleive that the 170 is a waste of money, and besides that we were talking about the 170a, not the 170. so firstly get your facts straight.

secondly, if both merc and i rave about the mixer, and have been experianced with this mixer then obviously it cant be bad if there are 2 of us who love it, along with the other 1000's of people in this forum saying how much they love it.

basically, the standard, or type of mixer you have doesnt determine how well you mix, and doenst make u any better or worse then anybody else.


the 170a is an awesome mixer, and if i can mix my tits off with it, why cant u or anybody else?
 
oh yeah and if the djm-600 isnt good enough for you, then what the **** is man??? really what do these companies have to do to satisfy a little gimp like yourself?? you come in here, bag some of the best mixers around and then simply leave it at that??


what a stupid post, and by thew way why dont you recommend this guya mixer in the same range for around 200 bucks, that is what the post is asking you to do.
 
I don't know if you're stupid or just f****n iliterate. If you had read my original post correctly then maybe you could have understood that I wasn't trying to start any wars of what is better..I was telling him to save up some money and buy a better mixer....ohh btw how experienced are you as a DJ, cuz if you didn't know there are alot of problems with the 600's, i.e. over heating, trouble with the pods, volume faders etc..................don't talk about posting a stupid post when all you wanna do is attempt to get into an argument over something stupid..hey if you think the PMC-170 is the s*** then that's your damn opinion and btw the only diff with the 170A is the kill switches and that is all so don't get you feathers all ruffled for no reason....also all I know is that if I spend $1200 on a mixer that can over heat and cause problems later on then it was a waste of money. I never said it wasn't a good mixer, I myself just prefer to get more solidly built professional mixers. See that's the problem with you newbies, always getting ofended when someone attempts to give you advice...........all I gotta say is becareful with whose tree you bark up because for all you know the people you piss off today may be the people who you may want for them to book you tomorrow, this is a ver small scene....ohh and btw no need to reply with a post because I won't bother answering it.
 
Hey Lexicon in reply to your post.......nah it doesn't mean that it's a bad mixer.......actually I think it is a very good mixer, I just think that they could have spent a little bit more time on how to properly ventilate that beast. It's just my prefernce not to spen $1200 on something that may go wrong.................yeah those A&H moxers are absolutly amazing, I got to spin on the Xone:464 a few weex ago and I was blown by this thing, gotta save up like $1500 for it so I can get this baby..
Merc, I've heard some really good things about that Roland 1000 as well as the 2,000, never had a chance to play on one so I don't know from experiece. And the Numark with the Kaoss pad is a good idea but if I recall correctly yhe mixer itself is nothing to really write home about, either way it's still a good idea. To sum things up tho, I think the Allen & Heat mixers are the best and most professional mixers in the market today, the more and more Rave's I spin at the more I see these mixers, altho Rane still makes some olid solid mixers. BTW has anyone seen the new Ecler HAK 300, that thing looks like a beast, specially for all the turntablists.
 
My bad I wasn't talking about the Numark with the Kaoss Pad, I was talking about the Korg Kaoss mixers itself, it's got the second generation kaoss pad with 27.3 seconds of sampling.

I think it was i-clan or mattu that posted the link origionally, but check it out for yourself if you haven't already it's definately worth a peek.

http://www.clicklive.com/korgUSA/sniffer/connections/kaoss_b.ram

The A & H mixers are really nice, and if you read the specs closely, the 3 ch x: one 32 has the LFO filter that the other two mixers don't and I thought that was kind of unique that their little 3 ch actually has a nice bundle to go with it.

The Ecler Smac series is real nice, think i-clan or mattu posted that one too.
Heh b4 I say this we've totally strayed from the origional topic, but by the looks of it, the new tascam x-9 seems to very closely use the pio's template almost to a T, given if it had the same features and if not more, but pretty much the same layout but better ventilation would you consider that a heavy contender? A lot of the vet's on this site seem to think it'll weigh in heavy when it's released.
 
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I definitly think that's gonna be the mixer to give the Pio's a run for their money..they obviously did indeed do some research about the ventilation, only time will tell, the only thing is that they modeled i too much after the 500 and 600 but that's all good......I'm gonna go ahead and check out that Korg Kaoss mixer I haven't really seen it........yeah that Xone:32 is really damn good, i also found that to be pretty interesting that the 32 was the only one with LFO filter <~~~ nice feature...........now if they only made it with effex hoook up for every channel I'd love it...................can't wait to see that X9 tho and what it can do.
 
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