Are white producers making Hip Hop better?

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I can't get with dude saying he was an ass when he was a member on FP though, shyt bothers me.

Pain 1, we got prollems scrap. Dudes is just here to learn.

This ish will suck you in, don't respond. I'm headed to Wal-Mart. Turkey Day coming up.... EAT!
 
OH! Mikkel Kessler vs. Andre Ward on SHoTime tonight mf's.

Ward is a beast!

Never seen Kessler...
 
Tha Wiizard said:
whoever the fuk this Johnny Juliano dude is just took a popular sound, other people's drum kits etc and make beats until his hands get tired
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check it.

i don't know if these claims of Johnny Juliano being a "biter" is true or not, but like i said before, the shyt that i HAVE heard from dog, is IMPRESSIVE.
 
Hip hop wouldn't exist without inspiration from others

I do not believe that skin color should be an issue to anything. Racism is wrong, though I know it will never die, sad but true.

Anyways, I myself think it would be quite impossible to create hip hop with only listening too..well hip hop your whole life.

If you look at the history, lots of samples come from oldies, jazz, funk, etc. and inspiration as well. And thats why I believe hip hop is not just music, it's more because it is so complex and different from every other genre.

I myself did not listen to a lot of hip hop until I was about ten. Grew up in the 90's, I experienced a lot of that Electro, Old School, lots of jazz, and Hawaiian/Tahitian music.

So I say no, you cannot make hip hop without experiencing and listening to other genres.
 
not tunez said:
i see where your going, so i am gonna try to say this without going black or white.
while i do agree that having a healthy background in another genre will help a producer think outside the box (melodies come to mind before drums), i also feel that those who come with a different background have a difficulty "getting it" in the sense that it often sounds like hip hop emulation rather than hip hop. its like when people would try to do soul songs back in the day as covers.
sure you have all of ron isleys lyrics right, but you don't get it. ya know?
im not saying the dudes you named aren't cracking in anyway, im just saying that someone coming from a different background may run the risk of trying to emulate it rather than just getting it. like how people who dig through crates looking for "kanye sounds" don't understand the essence of sampling in hip hop.
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OK. I don't understand this way of thinking at all? Look, if you ask me, a guy like Eminem came up in a ****ty environment and had hip hop all around him his whole life, and he came up as hard as anyone else. Kanye West, came from a much better Middle Class and then later upper Middle Class environment? It seems like everyone say's you gotta feel hip hop and to feel it, you have to come from the streets or come up hard. But then when the guy is white, that isn't the case anymore and then its about color? I don't get it? Why does Hip Hop have to be a certain way? Blues came from hard times, but you don't have to be poor to play the blues do you? Or Black, or White, or anything else!

Its about feeling and emotion and most of all about telling a story! Heat is heat, lets put the rest to bed! I don't give a sh!t if a dude is pink, gay and has a pu$$y on his forehead, if he makes dope music I will buy it! For me the music is about how it makes me feel, not if the person making it is worthy of feeling that way, and who am I to say that or judge anyway?

My only beef with Hip Hop is faking the funk! When a dude acts a role and tells everyone he is a thug, a G and then turns out to be a Drama School Dropout with a trust fund! I don't give a sh!t that he had the trust fund, just that he said he was something he wasn't! I hate those kind of people! I came up poor and for the life of me I can never figure out why people would want to act like they were poor when they were not? WTF! Trust me there is no glamor in it!

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Tha Wiizard said:
Y A beat is only 25% of the whole. The other three 25%'s are the artist, the lyrics, and promotion..
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OK, this is the funniest thing I have seen on FP in a very long time! The other three 25%'s! CLASSIC!


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i think one of the main reasons why "whites" "have it hard" in hop hop is because hip hop was created by people that lived (and still do) live under the poverty line.

so when a white kid comes out (and whites are the most "affluent" race in the world, arguably), people either

1. say he's BITING

or

2. say, "WTF?!?!, how you gonna tell my story when you don't know shyt about it / never experienced it in the same way / on the same level that i have?

AND THEN, you have the whole thing where "are you gonna let a white boy beat you at your own game" thing...but that's A WHOLE DIFFERENT TOPIC.
 
but back to the original question...

are whites making it "better"???

i would respond first by saying WHERE IS THE POLL AT?

second, i would say that "better" is subjective.

some people would say "yeah, whites are making hip hop "better" - others would say no. so i guess it just depends
 
F or Deaf, I see what your saying but there are more poor white people in the US than there are Poor Black People. Per capita, maybe not, but sheer numbers its not even close! So, again my point is why does this even matter?

Basketball was invented by a white man, but obviously black people have adapted to it very well and I have never heard someone say anything about that? I just don't see the relevance at all?

Hip Hop is the only genre where this even gets called into question and I think when we put this ish behind us, Hip Hop in general will be better off!

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Hmmm and what about the "whites" from Eastern Europe? I was born in Bosnia, lived there 10 years and trust me, **** wasn't picnic neither!

That's bull man, you can't judge a book by its cover.
 
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