Are white producers making Hip Hop better?

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biggrome said:
Will people that grew up on different genre's that get into Hip Hop... have more of a musical taste than a dude that listened to Hip Hop and only Hip Hop all of his life.

What do you think ?
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Not necessarily, because Hip-Hop is a fusion of a ton of other different genres, the sampling and influence has an effect on the listeners. So you could grow up listening to only Hip-Hop and get into, say, Soul, Funk, Rock, etc, music as a result. I listened to a lot of Hip-Hop growing up and as a result, I'm probably more musically diverse in terms of what I listen to, than I would've been had I grown up listening to other music. Hip-Hop is the only genre for me which isn't closed to one style or type of sound.

So, the O.P. raising a good topic, but it can be the opposite: you could grow up listening to only Hip-Hop and have more of a musical taste, because of everything that Hip-Hop is. I know I respect and have found other types of music I wouldn't have ever known about if it wasn't for Hip-Hop.

biggrome said:
No need to call names, get crunk on the web or any of that... but let's be honest... a lot of white dudes are crankin' out some good music in the Hip Hop genre.
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For real, though it doesn't mean they didn't grow up listening to only Hip-Hop. Definitely true though, it wasn't until this thread that I realised 4 of my top 5 personal favourite producers are white. From Statik Selektah, Timeless, Soul Supreme, Jake One, Marco Polo, The Alchemist, Stoupe, Ill Bill, Evidence...and alot more, in my opinion, the producers I listen to ARE Hip-Hop, and are the only ones keeping it alive and away from commercialization. And currently, these happen to be white. I love the raw, gritty, real Hip-Hop sound, from how it begun, to RZA, Pete Rock & DJ Premier cementing it, to Dilla keeping it alive. But I'm not seeing these sounds come from anywhere other than the heat from white producers. Which really shouldn't be an issue anyway. It doesn't matter. A producer is a producer.
 
 
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Red Scare said:
what the f*ck are you talking about????


this thread is f*cking retarding and you MFs are actually taking everything I say to heart.

dont be a fool.....
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That's why your music sucks azz.

Don't PM me for anymore reviews either.

Why even post in this thread if you think it's f*cking retarding, lol...

(retarding?) .... music is your best bet homie.

:cheers:
 
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PlayalitiKal said:
Not necessarily, because Hip-Hop is a fusion of a ton of other different genres, the sampling and influence has an effect on the listeners. So you could grow up listening to only Hip-Hop and get into, say, Soul, Funk, Rock, etc, music as a result. I listened to a lot of Hip-Hop growing up and as a result, I'm probably more musically diverse in terms of what I listen to, than I would've been had I grown up listening to other music. Hip-Hop is the only genre for me which isn't closed to one style or type of sound.

So, the O.P. raising a good topic, but it can be the opposite: you could grow up listening to only Hip-Hop and have more of a musical taste, because of everything that Hip-Hop is. I know I respect and have found other types of music I wouldn't have ever known about if it wasn't for Hip-Hop.



For real, though it doesn't mean they didn't grow up listening to only Hip-Hop. Definitely true though, it wasn't until this thread that I realised 4 of my top 5 personal favourite producers are white. From Statik Selektah, Timeless, Soul Supreme, Jake One, Marco Polo, The Alchemist, Stoupe, Ill Bill, Evidence...and alot more, in my opinion, the producers I listen to ARE Hip-Hop, and are the only ones keeping it alive and away from commercialization. And currently, these happen to be white. I love the raw, gritty, real Hip-Hop sound, from how it begun, to RZA, Pete Rock & DJ Premier cementing it, to Dilla keeping it alive. But I'm not seeing these sounds come from anywhere other than the heat from white producers. Which really shouldn't be an issue anyway. It doesn't matter. A producer is a producer.
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I like this dude. This is why I started this thread.

... believe it or not... FP used to get responses like this.
 
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I mean all the white mainstream producers i kno are making some real ****. Jake One, Alchemist, JR Rotem, Eric G. Btw Eric G did joint off of Skyzoo new album called "For what it worth" Which is like the hardest beat i heard in a min. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1l0qFYSc1Q
 
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not tunez said:
i see where your going, so i am gonna try to say this without going black or white.
while i do agree that having a healthy background in another genre will help a producer think outside the box (melodies come to mind before drums), i also feel that those who come with a different background have a difficulty "getting it" in the sense that it often sounds like hip hop emulation rather than hip hop. its like when people would try to do soul songs back in the day as covers.
sure you have all of ron isleys lyrics right, but you don't get it. ya know?
im not saying the dudes you named aren't cracking in anyway, im just saying that someone coming from a different background may run the risk of trying to emulate it rather than just getting it. like how people who dig through crates looking for "kanye sounds" don't understand the essence of sampling in hip hop.
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Alot of people say smart stuff, but this got 2 b one of the dumbest things Ive heard in a while. Doesnt make no point
 
Here is the answer, and yes It ain't hip hop but explains alot. Listen.

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Some very ignorant stereotyping here. Blacks no Melody??

EXCUSE ME?????

 
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All forms of Rock'n'roll, R&B, Country, and Hip-Hop originated from the slavery period. Slaves started a genre of music know as "The Blues" to help them cope with the suffering and pass the time away. Do your research and continue playing that funky, black music white boys. So anybody who stated anything against black people being the pioneers of all todays genres of music, kick yourself in the ass.
 
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mobeatz said:
Some very ignorant stereotyping here. Blacks no Melody??

EXCUSE ME?????

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hes african lol. but nobody is saying that black people can't me melodic its just a fact that most black music over the years has focused more so on rhythm than melody.
 
Tha Wiizard said:
All forms of Rock'n'roll, R&B, Country, and Hip-Hop originated from the slavery period. Slaves started a genre of music know as "The Blues". Do your research and continue playing that funky, black music white boys.
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Slight correction:

Slaves were singing spirituals first. Out of that came the blues AFTER the slavery period.

Other than that you are correct blacks shaped the music of the WEST.

Not only in the USA but also Cuba > birthplace of Salsa(by way of Rumba) & Brazil birth place of Bossa & Samba

All these styles find their way in modern pop & Jazz
 
Xabiton said:
hes african lol. but nobody is saying that black people can't me melodic its just a fact that most black music over the years has focused more so on rhythm than melody.
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You tell me:

Blues?? Soul?? Melodic??
 
mobeatz said:
Slight correction:

Slaves were singing spirituals first. Out of that came the blues AFTER the slavery period.

Other than that you are correct blacks shaped the music of the WEST.

Not only in the USA but also Cuba > birthplace of Salsa(by way of Rumba) & Brazil birth place of Bossa & Samba

All these styles find their way in modern pop & Jazz
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Black people shaped the music of the world, not then "West". Besides, wtf is the WEST.:rolleyes:
 
mobeatz said:
West. I meant western world AKA modern world. Western Europe, USA, South America.
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look imma let you know now, you don't want to get in a discussion with this dude wizard... Just step away slowly and make no sudden movements.
 
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