are Hip Hop fans the most fickle fanbase??

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hip hop fans stink man, they really do. Idk if im the only person that feels that way, but when i see the fanbase and how they approach music as a whole i feel like hip hop is the least forgiving

for example i was watching a behind the scenes video of TDE.. which is one of the most promising camps in hip hop music today.. and fans were mad.. you know why?

because Kendrick Lamar and ScHoolboy Q were dancing around throwing money with louis vouitton Bags and MCM leather bookbags while listening to Rick Ross Hold Me Back... and fans were legit upset. Reading the comments.. like "I know TDE just did this as a joke, this isnt what theyre about.. right? right? PLEASE I DONT WANT KENDRICK TO SELL OUT"



this genre of music is just wild to me lolol, does anybody else feel this way? or am i just alone in thinking that majority of hip hop fans are morons.
 
i don't think hip-hop fans are fickle at all, they accept rappers like waka flaka flame and 2 chainz who lack any talent with open arms.
 
ego killer said:
i don't think hip-hop fans are fickle at all, they accept rappers like waka flaka flame and 2 chainz who lack any talent with open arms.
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while thats true, i'm sure if Nas or Jay Electronica did a song with Waka Flacka Flame or 2 Chainz. Hip Hop fans would cry for months
 
Die Hard hip hop fans hold their artists to a different standard. Hip hop was built on being REAL. You talk it how you live it. However that was.


So if your musical image is built on one thing, hip hop fans will hold you to that to the very end. If you're a backpacker, you're supposed to be anti-establishment, anti-commercialism. So your fans expect you NOT to like things and artists associated with that.



It's just like these women and these soap opera characters. They never let them out of character. Even if they see one on the street in real life, they'll run up on em and start screaming about who they cheated on on the show, like that shit actually happened!



There's much more of a connection to hip hop. People actually want to LIVE it. It's not just entertainment for alot of people.
 
Pretty much any mainstream music fan is fickle, with the exception of country fans. Metal fans are loyal, and some indie rockers..but that's not really mainstream music, with metal and indie. I think it also has to with the quality of music these days. I mean this stuff has no replay value. I can't imagine a kid in this generation, saying "back in my day that 2 Chainz was pure magic, u kids with ya music these days." But it will happen, and maybe that's the old man in me talking,cause ya parents, parents said the same thing about their music. Oh boy I'm tired, not sure what I'm typing. But, I'll leave with this...The legendary Indie group Sonic Youth said, "Once you sell one record, or make money for performance, ya a sell out" and there right.
 
Good insight, its just such a funny dynamic to see.. when you meet artists and see how they act.. and then you meet fans and see how they interpret artists

and with the way technology is moving, fans are seeing more behind the scenes action and seeing how these guys act and interact with people. I think it can either help or hurt careers in the future

i think a big reason why Rick Ross is so popular now even after all the drama, is he just put out music, and the behind the scenes footage where you see people really giving him love and showing him love, you see him performing in Africa and London and you sit and say "hey if they can accept it, i can accept it"

but so often i see fans especially in hip hop, and now when i think about it a lot of those indie rock genres too, saying "oh i cant believe these artists collaborated" or " oh i cant believe this artist that i like listens to this trash artist"
 
j.troup said:
Die Hard hip hop fans hold their artists to a different standard. Hip hop was built on being REAL. You talk it how you live it. However that was.


So if your musical image is built on one thing, hip hop fans will hold you to that to the very end. If you're a backpacker, you're supposed to be anti-establishment, anti-commercialism. So your fans expect you NOT to like things and artists associated with that.







There's much more of a connection to hip hop. People actually want to LIVE it. It's not just entertainment for alot of people.
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I think u nail it here.
Also, i think it has to do with age. When your under 25, sometimes, keeping it real is just staying the way you were. As you get older, you understand a man needs to grow. You can still rock you kicks and all that, but you need to some professional attire to go with yo style.
Like ego killer said, 2 chainz and Waka really challenge my listening range, because i'm older and its only so many party punch lines without substance i can take.
I think fans in most genres are fickle to a certain degree. We want the people we like to stay in mold we discovered them in. I've heard so many modern jazz musicians get pissed off because a lot traditionalist have a very narrow view of what jazz is (be-bop/post-be-bop etc), and when young cats experiment, the traditionalist say that's not jazz.
I think artists can be fickle too, because u have to realize these people are the reason you're able to toss money in the air now, and they have expectations of you.
 
Ross had more obstacles than any artist I can think of in recent memories. Being signed to shitty deals, being from Florida, where no real major movement was happening, his baby mama sex tape being leaked, being supposedly a C.O. etc etc...How did he make it out of all that? And become mre popular? Great Music..let that happen to a 2 Chainz, and you'd never here from him again.
 
as20gp said:



this genre of music is just wild to me lolol, does anybody else feel this way? or am i just alone in thinking that majority of hip hop fans are morons.
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Okay i checked the vid. FAME and money are mofo. I'm a big fan of Kendrick but he's a walking contradiction too me. One minute he's kickin deep lyrics about the struggle and the ghetto, next minute he stylin like he wants to be in that life.
 
mwandishi said:
Okay i checked the vid. FAME and money are mofo. I'm a big fan of Kendrick but he's a walking contradiction too me. One minute he's kickin deep lyrics about the struggle and the ghetto, next minute he stylin like he wants to be in that life.
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but see if youre a true Kendrick Fan, you'd know thats the type of person he IS. He's a fashion junkie, hes into stylish shit, he even raps about it in some of his older material

but because hes written off as a 'deep rapper" hes not allowed to be that, people just thought this was a creative approach dissing the rap game for spending wads of money, but no he was really talking about himself lol



"if it aint upscale, then you may offend me"

and thats kinda what im saying, people write artists off and box them into these subgenres of hip hop and then when they do something that seems out of character, it turns them off so quickly in hip hop lol

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its like if youre a "deep" rapper you cant rap about having sex with random women, even though thats life.. you cant rap about popping bottles in the club even though you probably do it on the weekends. You can rap about weed and drugs though, but you cant rap about excessive selling of it. You cant rap about fancy clothing or items even though it gets sent to your door every weekend, you get all the jordans for free, you get gucci and louis and prada for cheap. You invited to all the popping events but you cant rap about it

so at some point, you not even rapping about your LIFE anymore lol, now youre rapping about what you want your fans want you to rap about. Its like Drake. People criticize drake for being sensitive and talking about relationships.. but thats his life, he raps about fly shit and messed up relationships due to his fame cause thats his life

so if kendrick was rapping about poor and the ghetto.. when he was poor and ghetto.. now that hes rich and in the suburbs.. shouldnt he be staying true and rap and act like he has the money?

at what point do we allow artists to be who they are, instead of lumping them into a category. Its like Nas with the You Owe Me record.. Nas really lives like that! he doesnt flaunt it, but thats how Nas lives, Jay-Z made the smooth switch from hood raps to flossing raps, to introspective records as a grown man, and nobody really said a thing.

so im wondering if Hip Hop fans box each other in more than other genres i guess its really the question.
 
it all comes from the roots of hip-hop

it was opressed black people displaying their greatness and showing off and making money, and that's the reason most rappers even get into hip-hop, and its what they'll fall back on sooner or later
 
Niggas cant seriously be mad at the vid... You can clearly see them niggas just wildin out and havin fun... Just cause a nigga rap about the Struggle and The Ghetto doesnt mean he has to always be a depressed ass person... come on now... Let ppl live.
 
I feel you on this one Drew.

I think it has to do with identity. People love K. Dot thus far because they can identify with what he raps about.

Once he raps or displays himself with wads of cash and and material things the average dude can't relate to, they reside to being salty and claiming he sold out.

It's a helluva game to be in, if you start winning you really start losing and if you're losing, well you obviously ain't winning lol
 
i think it comes down to what every individual listens to music for. I listen to kendrick because hes in a similar place as me. We come from similar areas, we doing similar things (him no a much bigger scale of course)

so when i see him wilding out with millions, im like damn i cant wait till im 25 and wilding out with millions. I dont see him as a spokesperson for the ghetto or some deep intellectual.

i just see a smart kid, thats growing into himself.

and i think that part of music especially in hip hop gets lost. People grow up, people change. I'm not the same as i was when i was 18, even if you go back to old posts of me on this forum, i was a damn moron, i said all types of dumb shit. And im probably gonna be different when im 25 or 26. thats another 4 years of life to live and learn.

and sometimes our perceptions of people and how they are as individuals, and their actions make our opinions of them change.

i mean imagine if we saw a video of Bill Cosby doing this lmfao, now that i can understand because of Bill Cosbys platform in society..

but at the end of the day.. these are just young 18-26 year old rappers lol. Just Rappers
 
80% of hip hop fans are posers. Maybe higher. I feel sorry for those hip hop fans who don't have a real hip hop scene in their city. They don't support their local artist....but want to act like they all about real hip hop......bunch of losers man.
 
People keep looking to music like it's a news story. It's not. Quit trying to hold rappers to the things that they rap about. People don't wanna separate the persona from the person. They don't wanna use common sense that most rappers don't and can't do what they rap about.
 
KelevraOne said:
People keep looking to music like it's a news story. It's not. Quit trying to hold rappers to the things that they rap about. People don't wanna separate the persona from the person. They don't wanna use common sense that most rappers don't and can't do what they rap about.
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than stop rapping about it simple
 
j.troup said:
Die Hard hip hop fans hold their artists to a different standard. Hip hop was built on being REAL. You talk it how you live it. However that was.


So if your musical image is built on one thing, hip hop fans will hold you to that to the very end. If you're a backpacker, you're supposed to be anti-establishment, anti-commercialism. So your fans expect you NOT to like things and artists associated with that.



It's just like these women and these soap opera characters. They never let them out of character. Even if they see one on the street in real life, they'll run up on em and start screaming about who they cheated on on the show, like that shit actually happened!



There's much more of a connection to hip hop. People actually want to LIVE it. It's not just entertainment for alot of people.
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Agreed... Hip-Hop might be the most "image driven" genre in music.

That's not necessarily being fickle.
 
Pop fans, and I when I say 'Pop' I'm talking about whatever is currently dominating the Top 40 are by default the most fickle fans
 
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