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Beatsbybeth

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Step by step, how do I go about doing this? I want to give them the copyrights, I want nothing to do with the beat, just want to sell it and have the money deposited into my bank account...

Thank you.

-Beth

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rjd2? yes rjd2.

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honestly? unless its a major, i'd do a handshake deal where they pay you before you deliver the "masters" or session. if its something that might get some airplay or public performance, then consider a simple agreement and terms for publishing. if not, dont sweat it, and treat it like a couch on craigslist, literally.
 

nrjetik

Three Harmonies
honestly? unless its a major, i'd do a handshake deal where they pay you before you deliver the "masters" or session. if its something that might get some airplay or public performance, then consider a simple agreement and terms for publishing. if not, dont sweat it, and treat it like a couch on craigslist, literally.


yes, that would be a simple way to do it. but for me, i want myself to start acting like how I would if I were to be a professional artist/producer. I have contracts that outline their rights and have them sign it along with me for recorded proof. They send the money to me and then I send them the masters via a pass-protected file or if they request, I can send them a CD with the masters.

if its more simple for you to just approach the selling part of music production in a barter-like fashion, then it's alright as long as it's nothing major. if it is somethin major, i suggest you do what I do in order to maximize your opportunities.
 
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Beatsbybeth

New member
Okay, thanks. Can you tell me how you figured out what exactly to put in a contract that will be outlining their rights for full 100% ownership of the beat? I have NO idea where to begin with that. Also, is having them sign a contract I've made myself saying I am giving them full ownership of the beat enough for it to then officially be theirs (since they still won't be the ones with the copyright on the official us copyright website or are there other steps I need to take? This is what I need to know. So simple yet seems so impossible to find out.
 

rjd2? yes rjd2.

New member
if they register the work w/ US copyright office, then yes, they will be the ones with the copyright.

yes, a contract saying they own the master recording signed by you and them means they own it. ownership of a recording can be transferred. the writing of a composition cant.
 

K¥O Beatz

京
hold up though.

rjd2,why would he master the beat he made if someone is just going to lay vocals over it & its gonna get mixed again & then mastered again. i guess its just my way of working but i would never give them the master beat only because i know they are gonna mix & master it again.

off topic sorry lol
 

moses

hardliner
Seriously, there is absolutely no point involving money in such low level projects. It just hinders friendship and an easy atmosphere, no way to be really creative under such circumstances.

Do cool and exciting music, build up some real artistic value. Money must be secondary (and it will be, no matter if you want it or not). I'm regularly shocked to see how a huge part of the US hip-hop newbies take a strange disney-hyper-commercialism-plastic-pop-business approach.

Just a few years ago in the hiphop scene, it was a real shame to have such a "money first" attitude. People looked for results and fame, not income.
 
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rjd2? yes rjd2.

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hold up though.

rjd2,why would he master the beat he made if someone is just going to lay vocals over it & its gonna get mixed again & then mastered again. i guess its just my way of working but i would never give them the master beat only because i know they are gonna mix & master it again.

off topic sorry lol

google "master recording". google "mastering process for records". it'll make sense. 2 different things.

moses is right. if you are worrying about a contract for a one-off project having a contract for someone's record they are putting out themselves, or is on a small scale, IMO you are totally missing the point. people like hi-tek/madlib/your favorite producer did not get to where they are thru having airtight contracts on every project they made(nobody would get shit done), they got where they are by doing LOTS of projects. sheer volume is your friend right now.
 

Xabiton

Cupcake God
Seriously, there is absolutely no point involving money in such low level projects. It just hinders friendship and an easy atmosphere, no way to be really creative under such circumstances.

Do cool and exciting music, build up some real artistic value. Money must be secondary (and it will be, no matter if you want it or not). I'm regularly shocked to see how a huge part of the US hip-hop newbies take a strange disney-hyper-commercialism-plastic-pop-business approach.

Just a few years ago in the hiphop scene, it was a real shame to have such a "money first" attitude. People looked for results and fame, not income.
and the music is really suffering for it. I mean to the point where people know they are making plastic pop records and do so only because they feel it will pay and doing more classic hip hop wont. its even funnier because the main thing these guys are afraid of is sample clearances for a beat they may sell to a guy who might sell 1000 copies of his cd locally in a 5 year time span. The guys who are lucky enough to get onto a major album will have label backing to cover clearances anyway but these guys are so scared that they will continue to make plastic pop music and call it hip hop for years #hiphopisdead
 

Tyree D.

New member
the attitude is slightly understandable. When I was broke doing something for nothin didn't seem good. Now that I got a career and around people that don't have the American mentality I can enjoy music for the first time since school.
 

BullyBeats

New member
But if there's a chance to get paid for something he loves doing why not take it? People shouldn't feel afraid to make money off there music if there putting the time and effort into making it. Not saying you should look for the money first but why not just go for it? Make beats, have fun doing it and try make some doe off it too
 

RawBhipHop

New member
Excuse my late pass (haven't been on in a while)

I think the point is to put out as much as you can (like RJ said) but at the same time while you working on different projects you have people coming at you that you dont feel fit for it (or you) thats when money comes in hand to me. I sell beats because if they want it they will pay. Just like MadLib said 'Yo can i get a beat for free? Thats like a dope man giving out his stash for no fee'

I dont mess with contracts though, simply because i dont need to. I dont clear samples, simply because it would be an honor for someone to recognize my music enough to sue me lol..
 

dondada

New member
Copy write your track and lease them to everyone that need a track for $20 to $50. This way you get some money in front end but your stuff is going to be heard all over. Only give your rights if there is major company that wants it for some real cake

dondada
 
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