akai s2000 dilemma

[R.Jay]

so i have come across a dilemma
i have an akai mpd 24 that i run thru fruity loops and im very happy with it, im eventually gonna step up to a mpc when i get better and have more money

i have a little money and i have an oppurtunity to cop ab akai s2000 for a hundred dollars

is this a good price for one of these? and is it a step up, or a step down from what i have now? because to me, it seems like the mpc 2000, cept im running it thru the mpd

feed PLEASW, btw i pretty much strictly sample

also, i dont quite understand the differences between the 16 bit and such

thanks

 

[Straight]

definetely go with the s2000

I have one, it sounds a lot better than FL. But yo know what listen to this

the first half is from FL the second is from the s2000

same samples, no effects, same volume

 

[R.Jay]

thanks, the guy already sold it, but imma try to look for one on ebay, can i run it strictly thru my akai mpd24?

and can u chop the samples inside or do i have to do that on my comp?

 

[Straight]

you can use it with the mpd24 with a midi cable

it'll be like an MPC minus the sequencer

you can trim samples very easy but you can't really chop them like you'd do on an MPC or a computer

 

[Mattman04]

definetely go with the s2000

I have one, it sounds a lot better than FL. But yo know what listen to this

the first half is from FL the second is from the s2000

same samples, no effects, same volume

Straight did you sample at 22khz in the s2k?
22khz should be dirtier, but I'm a little surprised if thats a 44.1 sample, unless you hit the inputs a lil' hot with a mixer, or preamp.
I noticed more perceived volume.
In the test I did with the lo-fi vst's there was noticable perception of more loudness in a few of them because the signal was clipped with overdrive from the particular vst fx.

Also did you sample that loop into the computers convertors?

There's alot of variables, and it's tough to make an accurate test.
My own test is not really a test, but a loose comparison of different lo-fi effects, and is flawed since there are so many settings in each one lol.

These audio comparisons are always interesting though.

We should do a test with the same files.
Not just us though, but people with different samplers, and soundcards could do the comparison too.

I know mp3 is not the most perfect format, but I'd upload at least 256kbps for the test.

An interesting side note about the s2000 is that it's a better spec'd sampler than the mpc2000, and 2000xl, but can be bought for under $100 on ebay.
Interesting how the history of the mpc name has affected the used market price.
It's name is legendary, just like Mickey Mantle cards are worth more than Willie Mays cards, but ya know willie was the man, lol.

 

[Straight]

Straight did you sample at 22khz in the s2k?
22khz should be dirtier, but I'm a little surprised if thats a 44.1 sample, unless you hit the inputs a lil' hot with a mixer, or preamp.
I noticed more perceived volume.
In the test I did with the lo-fi vst's there was noticable perception of more loudness in a few of them because the signal was clipped with overdrive from the particular vst fx.

Also did you sample that loop into the computers convertors?

There's alot of variables, and it's tough to make an accurate test.
My own test is not really a test, but a loose comparison of different lo-fi effects, and is flawed since there are so many settings in each one lol.

These audio comparisons are always interesting though.

We should do a test with the same files.
Not just us though, but people with different samplers, and soundcards could do the comparison too.

I know mp3 is not the most perfect format, but I'd upload at least 256kbps for the test.

yeah it's very interesting

I know mp3's are ****ed up, but it's still audible.

You know I always believed this mpc sound thing, but I tried to do a fair test.

I hear the difference, and I didn't compress or eq it.

S2000 have a lot more punch.


Yeah it's done through my cheap soundcard. I recorded FL's own out too and it still differs.



My test is not 100% PERFECT, but it's enough for me. the s2k gives the sample that real punch somehow.


If sy does another test, I'd like to hear that too.

 

[R.Jay]

thanks, one more question, if i chop my sample on my comp, can i load the chopped version into the s2k and play it out there? and also, can drum kits be played on it?

 

[Straight]

thanks, one more question, if i chop my sample on my comp, can i load the chopped version into the s2k and play it out there? and also, can drum kits be played on it?

of course, it's very good for drums

you record the samples into the s2k (or load via SCSI or MIDI), you create a multi, when you can assign the samples to keyzones (if you do drums, keyzones'll be like C3-C3, D3-D3)

yeah if you chop samples on PC, then you can load the chopped ones to the s2k, and do it like this

you can have bass, drums, chops, pianos, ... on the same keyboard.







if you don't have MESA and SCSI card, you gotta use the little LCD, a lotta people say it's pain in the ass, but I learned it in a few minutes and now I can do anything on that.

here is the official manual, but just ask me if you want to know st

http://www.akaipro.com/archive_doc/2_S2000.zip

 

[R.Jay]

thanks fam, good lookin