Mixing 808s and Kicks in FL Studio

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Watup FP fam. I have a minor question about mixing 808s and kicks in FL. When mixing I make sure the velocity is turned all the way up on the kicks and 808s so i can get that maximum bang. Only thing is when i compare to other mixes it dont sound as loud and thick. Im using ozone to master m final mix. Im making sure nothings clipping on the master track when I do my mixes. Sometime the mix sounds better as far as the 808s/kicks go when it clips but I know its not suppose to clip. Any suggestions? Do it sound like Im doing something wrong?
 
To be honest, that's one of the biggest mistakes people make .. they slam the fader on the kick because they want it bang .. you distort that way. Try turning your instruments down instead, to give your kick some breathing room. I still turn my kicks up pretty high, but not all the way... also, try layering ... I usually take a really punchy kick and layer it with a boomy kick, then just EQ the two to bring out the frequencies I want in them..
 
Never said anything about putting a fader on the kick. I heard bout turning the instruments down and having the drums up a bi more. That usually works. Just going for that real punchy mix. Thx for the feed. keep it coming
 
Mix low and EQ, then master. Really no huge secret to it honestly.
 
CellzisBack said:
Never said anything about putting a fader on the kick.
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Slamming the fader means turning the kick up... if you were to look at your mixer in FL, on the channel the kick is routed to there will be a fader below it... that controls the output... pretty basic stuff.
 
I won't put the velocity way up no need
layering and eq the kick(s) and ducking compression techn. can help alot as well
using quality kicks and 808s(or any kind of sub-bass) sounds from the start helps as well
what are you checking your mixes on???
what studio monitors????
any acoustic treatment in your production room????
what plugs are you using to mix with
and do you know how to use them correctly
take a month and just study and try some things out
on days where you're not making a beat

having acoustic treatment and accurate flat-response studio monitors help alot
and if you're making super bassy/club-like music
having a sub to listen to it on
try using your home theatre system as they usually have a sub
and cranking it up on there to give you a idea how your beat will sound to the average listener

you should only be doing loudness mastering
mastering a artform that comes with years of experience

but usually a great mix
only needs to have some fine tuning and to be cranked up for the loudness wars

-Coach Antonio
 
BeatGenerals said:
Mix low and EQ, then master. Really no huge secret to it honestly.
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Dude. . .this thread should have ended at this response. . .

Mix really low.

To give yourself a lot of headroom, make sure everything has a lower volume than the metronome.
 
EQ, EQ, EQ!!
I just tweaked the levels in Parametric EQ 2 a little bit to make it bang yet not distorted and saved it as a preset.
it's not that hard.
 
CellzisBack said:
Watup FP fam. I have a minor question about mixing 808s and kicks in FL. When mixing I make sure the velocity is turned all the way up on the kicks and 808s so i can get that maximum bang. Only thing is when i compare to other mixes it dont sound as loud and thick. Im using ozone to master m final mix. Im making sure nothings clipping on the master track when I do my mixes. Sometime the mix sounds better as far as the 808s/kicks go when it clips but I know its not suppose to clip. Any suggestions? Do it sound like Im doing something wrong?
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Kick should be the focus of hiphop mixes so I would say keep the fader of the kick drum up. The thing about bass is that your not suppose really hear it just feel it so cranking the bass up is going to sound decent on computer speakers but then put it in a car stereo (where most music is listened too) and then you cant hear any other instrument. For that boom kick you could have two or 3 different drums pick one thats punchy then eq all lows then another one that is boomy then eq till about 150hz ( give or take) then the 808 eq ALL highs till about 100-80hz. As far as the fader watch the levels where its just under the drums ( remember if you can HEAR it its too loud , so as soon as you hear the bass put it down a a dB or 2) IMO.
 
In mixing the secret is balance. If you want a loud kick turn other instruments down. I like to have a loud kick and clap/snare with a medium bass and everything else low. Then limit your master to bring up the overall volume as a whole.
 
Using EQ and compression correctly is all you need. Also when producing it's all about getting the mix balanced, my mix never goes above -6dB until I master the whole song.
 
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Audiotwist said:
Using EQ and compression correctly is all you need. Also when producing it's all about getting the mix balanced, my mix never goes above -6dB until I master the whole song.
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This. Don't necessarily worry about having your peak be exactly -6db as long as you have some headroom and good dynamic range you will be fine.
 
I usually have my kick 2-4 db's over the bass. Pending on the songs and i cut them both around 30-40hz. I also cut my kick after 400hz. I boost the high end of the 808 around 260-300 hz. You can hear them respectively well
 
Yooo preciate all the advice in this thread! Im using some Krk rokit 6s, the g2s. They pretty decent on the low end. Im new to EQing and compression. The EQing with the parametric 2 plugin in FL is sweet. I need to work on compression. I have no experience with compression on kicks/808s what so ever. Anybody got any tips on compression using FL?
 
im in the same boat as u im labbing that shit now. I'll let u know what i come up with probably tomorrow. But remember mix low and set ur master channel limiter to max loudness. I have a fat kit that is about -10 db but it reaches +1 in the master volume on the mixer. Also try layering 3-5 kicks

peace
 
Coo. I'm soaking everything yall give me hear on this board. If it wasnt for FP dont know where I would be as a up n coming producer. Im noticing compression as well as the eqs can take ya drum game to a whole nother level. Main thing i gotta work on is knowing how to adjust the compression and its envelope and release to different kicks/808s/snares because all drum samples aren't mixed the same

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Do most producers use compression on 808s?
 
I don't think so. Most 808's are already good cuz you don't want the 808 to bleed thru the track because it's gonna be felt and it can and will overtake the beat. Now a kick can bleed cuz it won't take over any instruments and if it's clipping you can HEAR it because it willcut ur track when it hits. on the 808 i just raise the around 300hz about 6 db's and i cut it off about 30 hz. mostly 30 and 40hz are just unwanted noise. and can cause clutter. Listen to this and tell me what u think boutmy kick and bass

AY Perfect - YouTube
 
That mix needs work. There is like no sub frequencies and the whole thing sounds thin.

I personally compress my bass, just because you compress your bass doesn't mean you have to go crazy with the gain compensation.
 
Sub frequencies?

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Can you explain ont know what dat is
 
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