Who Here is on that Kanye "5 Beat a day for 3 Summers" Tip?

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Listen to music DOES actually help you get better if youre listening to the production. Thats how I got my snare rolls on point. Now of course you have to actually DO it but listening as its own value.
 
Better to focus on a specific weakness in your tracks than to make as much as possible imo
 
PeezyBeatz said:
he was sampling. not saying that is easy but he had the beats done. he just chopped and looped. he had preinspiration beforehand. now composing 5 melodies everyday for 9 months is crazy
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Yea u rite last time i sampled shit i did lik around 3 beats in a day its pretty easy it feels lik ur cheating kinda haha, but it comes out sounding so good tho so u can still have quality with quantity
 
JRod37 said:
Yea u rite last time i sampled shit i did lik around 3 beats in a day its pretty easy it feels lik ur cheating kinda haha, but it comes out sounding so good tho so u can still have quality with quantity
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yeah, thats the thing about sampling, its easier and it usually comes out sounding better, so its hard to want to put in twice the effort for half the quality, making songs from scratch. But in the end, a sampled song sounds good because of someone else that worked hard to make the original song, not because of you, so it is like cheating in a sense, and you dont get the same satisfaction, nor own the song. So its bittersweet, but its still a very creative method though.
 
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thats cool but not always about how many....quality of quantity
 
[F_or_DEAF] said:
sounds like borderline biting...
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Listening to be influenced is not biting at all... Its actually evolution in the process of your mind. Thats how music makes progress. So actually anybody that says they don't listen to music that is out there....is a liar.....our how else would you know what to top....

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no offense by the way... but be honest....you never listen to anything....I would never believe that.....and truth be told producers and composers of any genre of music are real critical of what they hear in a production....so if a producer tells me that they dont listen to other music (producers)...its a BIG LIE
 
Eshai said:
yeah, thats the thing about sampling, its easier and it usually comes out sounding better, so its hard to want to put in twice the effort for half the quality, making songs from scratch. But in the end, a sampled song sounds good because of someone else that worked hard to make the original song, not because of you, so it is like cheating in a sense, and you dont get the same satisfaction, nor own the song. So its bittersweet, but its still a very creative method though.
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sounds like you're just using looping something and adding drums underneath if you say sampling is simple, easy and allows you to make a lot of songs. In regards to sampling you have to find the sample chop it, find other instruments or synths that fits the sample, you have to adjust tempo, key and rhythm to make sure everything fits together.
 
What's with all the hating on sampling? If it sounds good and makes your head bop, I don't see what the big deal is. Noone was originally saying that sampling is harder than writing from scratch, so i'm not understanding why you cats are coming out blazing with this "sampling is so easy, anyone can drop 5 sampled tracks per day, they aren't real producers blah blah blah" mentality.

Whether or not Kanye meant his statement figuratively or literally, I don't think the OP intended this thread as a competition of any sort. I just don't understand why some cats get so heated about this. It's music baby, its all love! You say to-may-toe, I say to-mah-toe (mainly because i'm from Australia). Whatever gets the job done and sounds great wins in the end. There will always be those producers who can write a great sampled beat or a great track from scratch, and there will always be those WACK ones - either way.

Anyways, i forgot what my point was...

Peace!
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It has to be combo of both quality and quantity if you want to be successful. One hot beat a year ain't gonna cut it unless that beat becomes a huge single(could happen but highly highly doubt it lol) and 100 wack beats a week ain't gonna cut it neither lol. You have to have consistency with that said 5 bangers (placement worthy beats) a week>50 mediocre beats.
 
KelevraOne said:
sounds like you're just using looping something and adding drums underneath if you say sampling is simple, easy and allows you to make a lot of songs. In regards to sampling you have to find the sample chop it, find other instruments or synths that fits the sample, you have to adjust tempo, key and rhythm to make sure everything fits together.
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Well, by easier I kinda meant faster, because the music is already there recorded for you. If you take a sample with Piano and Strings in it, chop it up, re-arrange it etc. you've just laid down two instruments - piano and strings in one pass, whereas trying to do both from scratch would take a lot longer. So if your talking about doing 5 beats a day, if your sampling, where a lot of samples have maybe 4-5 instruments going on, thats going to save you a ton of time, not having to record all those instruments separately, let alone the time it would take to write the parts of each.

Chopping/re-arranging samples is like composing/writing in a sense, but the difference is your doing it for multiple instruments all in one. Writing parts for all those instruments separately would take longer than just re-arranging it as a whole. So, its just a fact that its less work when sampling, which allowa you to make more beats per day. I dont think anybody is saying its any less credible or takes less talent, but it is less work, which is what the thread is debating in a way.
 
I don't think he was being serious when he said that.....It just sounded cool.
 
Eshai said:
Well, by easier I kinda meant faster, because the music is already there recorded for you. If you take a sample with Piano and Strings in it, chop it up, re-arrange it etc. you've just laid down two instruments - piano and strings in one pass, whereas trying to do both from scratch would take a lot longer. So if your talking about doing 5 beats a day, if your sampling, where a lot of samples have maybe 4-5 instruments going on, thats going to save you a ton of time, not having to record all those instruments separately, let alone the time it would take to write the parts of each.

Chopping/re-arranging samples is like composing/writing in a sense, but the difference is your doing it for multiple instruments all in one. Writing parts for all those instruments separately would take longer than just re-arranging it as a whole. So, its just a fact that its less work when sampling, which allowa you to make more beats per day. I dont think anybody is saying its any less credible or takes less talent, but it is less work, which is what the thread is debating in a way.
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Still account for making things faster. Sampling has a tendency to slow things down because now you have to add parts to a sample and find instruments that match the tonality of the sample. Then you have to count the eqing out of different parts to lose the sounds in the sample that you don't want. You also forgot about pitch changes and effects added to samples to make them sound completely different. Then some people use samples from more than one song to make a new song. You have to adjust those samples to make them work in the new context. But like I said if it's simple looping and adding drums then yeah sampling would be faster but if it isn't nope sampling might take longer than composing from scratch.
 
Out of them 30 beats how many of them are bangers and will actually be used is the real question. I heard of another producer making 96 or some crazy amount in one week lol.
 
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yup...just like you get better at basketball by watching it on tv...

or you get better at fighting by watching UFC...fukc practicing...

***dies***

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I never said don't practise. I said you learn by listening. You practise to reinforce the knowledge you have learned by watching/reading/listnening depending on your field. If you have a basketball player that doesn't also watch A LOT of games, I can bet he SUCKS.
 
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I start at 8 oclock in the morning and try to make 2/3 beats a day and not in the summer i'm in the studio everyday.
Sometimes i make 1 beat sometimes i make 3 sometimes i don't make any just depends on the energy at the time
 
Didn't do that but I wrote 37 songs/tunes/instrumental in a 45 day period from the middle of February last year. I'd wake up at 6:00am, write the basic skeleton by 8 am. Go back to bed sleep till 11am. get up, have a finished pre-master by 3:00pm, ready to show my kids when they got in from school at 3:30pm.

It was a hard grind, but it helped that I would imagine the next days work as I was drifting off each night and then dream about the creation phase during the night.

Haven't had much luck lately - other things are blocking the creative juices (shit happens when you least want it/need it to happen).
 
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