propellerheads are soon gonna announce something new/ The Reason 5 thread

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[F_or_DEAF] said:
which is ironic because those are the two programs that supposedly have the highest learning curves...

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yeah...but i wouldn't be caught dead trying to make beats FROM START TO FINISH ON A CONSISTENT BASIS using ANY version of pro tools...lol.

PT + = recording / editing

PT - = composing
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Now see bro what you just said should be taken, put in a FRAME and hung on a wall as PURE TEE CLASSIC! Man you said a lot in a short way lol I totally agree with you, I couldn't make a beat in that thing for nothing. But Record I can :) Don't you see me happy? lol
 
DaNOC said:
But Record I can :) Don't you see me happy? lol
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WORD...

i'm actually waiting to for the Propellerhead Record Power! BOOK to drop...supposed to have dropped a few days ago, but got delayed for some reason...

another thing i've noticed....

FP has BLOWN UP over the recent announcement of Rs v.5 & Rc v.1.5...MORE THAN ANY OTHER SOFTWARE UPDATE...

why does props seemingly get more "props" than any other company when it comes to new versions / updates???
 
[F_or_DEAF] said:
WORD...

i'm actually waiting to for the Propellerhead Record Power! BOOK to drop...supposed to have dropped a few days ago, but got delayed for some reason...

another thing i've noticed....

FP has BLOWN UP over the recent announcement of Rs v.5 & Rc v.1.5...MORE THAN ANY OTHER SOFTWARE UPDATE...

why does props seemingly get more "props" than any other company when it comes to new versions / updates???
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BECAUSE IT'S THE TRUTH !!!


Whats the Prop Record Power book?

This thread will probably reach double diamond. this will be the second thread on Props I see with 20,000 viewers. Heck I am bouncing from Record's forum to here lol there is a lot of talk going on props did their thing
 
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say it terror said:
some people think ableton is the easiest program in the world but the few times i've tried it i've been lost (i have to give the demo a proper go some weekend i have time).

nowadays the most praised programs seem to be ableton and logic.
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[F_or_DEAF] said:
which is ironic because those are the two programs that supposedly have the highest learning curves..
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I understand how Live or any program can seem to have a high learning curve, but in actuality, it's very simple. Making beats in Live is as simple as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ff0AcOsH3E

and Rewiring Reason is just this simple:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBFC7bLWzCA
 
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This thread has got too much fanboyism to the point where its disgusting ,I understand you like a certain set of tools but dang lets be honest this update looks more like Reason 4.5 than 5.0, it looks like a update that they just started working on in the beginning of this year instead of an update they started right after Reason 4. I mean it seriously looks like a last minute update to cash in, there should have been way more effects plugins or at least all the effects from the synths as separate modules in Reason plus a few more ,with native beat slicing and sample chopping and time-stretch. Plus a real step sequencer and 64-bit and midi out, but I'm foreal this fanboyism is not whats helping Props out in the long run ,it's like the "yes man" telling you your stuff is hotter than it is when in fact its not that hot ,this type of stuff is keeping them stagnant and complacent in their comfort zone. I know very talented cats that stopped using Reason because it no longer was an attractive option with all the other choices of software out these days.

And don't tell me "your not creative enough to use Reason" or "this is not for you" or "we don't need these features" because I simply will respond by asking to hear your music ,because trust me if you have used Reason a long time and your making some respectable stuff and tired of doing "convoluted workarounds" then you will feel me ,people say limitations allow for creativity ,well thats the opposite for me now ,I have been making beats to the point where alot of features will not overwhelm me anymore. Again I like Reason and all but lets be honest here.
 
Not sure who said they can't make a beat pro tools why not ?
It has one of the best piano rolls the best quantize
The best routing with aux and busses
Best audio editor for chopping
Chop shop beat detective
Xpand 2
Structure free
Rtas support
Its a very good app to produce with
And is the best app to rewire reason into
Best mixer

Name one reason why you can't make beats in it ?

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dabeatdoctor1989 said:
This thread has got too much fanboyism to the point where its disgusting ,I understand you like a certain set of tools but dang lets be honest this update looks more like Reason 4.5 than 5.0, it looks like a update that they just started working on in the beginning of this year instead of an update they started right after Reason 4. I mean it seriously looks like a last minute update to cash in, there should have been way more effects plugins or at least all the effects from the synths as separate modules in Reason plus a few more ,with native beat slicing and sample chopping and time-stretch. Plus a real step sequencer and 64-bit and midi out, but I'm foreal this fanboyism is not whats helping Props out in the long run ,it's like the "yes man" telling you your stuff is hotter than it is when in fact its not that hot ,this type of stuff is keeping them stagnant and complacent in their comfort zone. I know very talented cats that stopped using Reason because it no longer was an attractive option with all the other choices of software out these days.

And don't tell me "your not creative enough to use Reason" or "this is not for you" or "we don't need these features" because I simply will respond by asking to hear your music ,because trust me if you have used Reason a long time and your making some respectable stuff and tired of doing "convoluted workarounds" then you will feel me ,people say limitations allow for creativity ,well thats the opposite for me now ,I have been making beats to the point where alot of features will not overwhelm me anymore. Again I like Reason and all but lets be honest here.
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Well I agree but reason isn't a daw think of it more like
komplete 6
Or when u have a mpc and buy a motif yea it has a seq but
You bought it for sounds to seq in the mpc (daw)
 
dabeatdoctor1989 said:
This thread has got too much fanboyism to the point where its disgusting ,I understand you like a certain set of tools but dang lets be honest this update looks more like Reason 4.5 than 5.0, it looks like a update that they just started working on in the beginning of this year instead of an update they started right after Reason 4. I mean it seriously looks like a last minute update to cash in, there should have been way more effects plugins or at least all the effects from the synths as separate modules in Reason plus a few more ,with native beat slicing and sample chopping and time-stretch. Plus a real step sequencer and 64-bit and midi out, but I'm foreal this fanboyism is not whats helping Props out in the long run ,it's like the "yes man" telling you your stuff is hotter than it is when in fact its not that hot ,this type of stuff is keeping them stagnant and complacent in their comfort zone. I know very talented cats that stopped using Reason because it no longer was an attractive option with all the other choices of software out these days.

And don't tell me "your not creative enough to use Reason" or "this is not for you" or "we don't need these features" because I simply will respond by asking to hear your music ,because trust me if you have used Reason a long time and your making some respectable stuff and tired of doing "convoluted workarounds" then you will feel me ,people say limitations allow for creativity ,well thats the opposite for me now ,I have been making beats to the point where alot of features will not overwhelm me anymore. Again I like Reason and all but lets be honest here.
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ok let be honest, i guess you didn't read the updates because ive been beta testing reason 5 and record 1.5 since the 2nd day of the release. time stretch is included. for audio and midi. there is manual slice and and wav editor but i guess you didn't read that. either. i guess you dont use the 4 different eqs well now 5 that are included in reason 5. midi out i will give but 64 rewire i can't really say that i need it but that's a personal preference the same way you think they need 64bit. now slicing that's what recycle is for that why its still selling in store that your slicer right there. granted you may not want to slice with recycle you want may wanted included into reason as many of us do, but what choice do you have. none. i guess you dont realize how much time it takes to create something like blocks mode, but since i take you haven't used reason 5 yet i'll let you keep talking about something you haven't used yet. your probably a unregisterd user as well. how many effects do you really need to make good music. do you like to scroll thorugh presets or do you combine different effect tools to make your own custom effect and save it as a preset to your liking because i guess you didn't realize that just gave it user at 5 new effects. you can call me a fanboy but i'm a realist. the problem is with alot of people is they expected more and when they didn't get what they
wanted they sit back and cry about it. the only thing that got me upset is no midi out. which is fine because i was creating music without it. it not slowing me down when it comes to making music. ive been using reason since verision 1. and im registerd since version 1 so i think i can make that complaint if i choose. i guess your didn't realize they gave a sequencer a brand new overhual i guess you didn't read my post on all the stuff reason and record comes with right now. but you know what people are never satisfied. the props could have incorporated everything its users asked for and there still would be complaints because that all people on web love to do complain. they gave you a freaking ssl modeled mixer in record like seriously what more could you ask for. if some new effect units somehow going to make your musically magically that much better. i think not. if you dont like the update dont' buy it and use something that fits your needs. its too many cry babies on the internet i swear.
 
dabeatdoctor1989 said:
This thread has got too much fanboyism to the point where its disgusting ,I understand you like a certain set of tools but dang lets be honest this update looks more like Reason 4.5 than 5.0, it looks like a update that they just started working on in the beginning of this year instead of an update they started right after Reason 4. I mean it seriously looks like a last minute update to cash in, there should have been way more effects plugins or at least all the effects from the synths as separate modules in Reason plus a few more ,with native beat slicing and sample chopping and time-stretch. Plus a real step sequencer and 64-bit and midi out, but I'm foreal this fanboyism is not whats helping Props out in the long run ,it's like the "yes man" telling you your stuff is hotter than it is when in fact its not that hot ,this type of stuff is keeping them stagnant and complacent in their comfort zone. I know very talented cats that stopped using Reason because it no longer was an attractive option with all the other choices of software out these days.

And don't tell me "your not creative enough to use Reason" or "this is not for you" or "we don't need these features" because I simply will respond by asking to hear your music ,because trust me if you have used Reason a long time and your making some respectable stuff and tired of doing "convoluted workarounds" then you will feel me ,people say limitations allow for creativity ,well thats the opposite for me now ,I have been making beats to the point where alot of features will not overwhelm me anymore. Again I like Reason and all but lets be honest here.
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I cant agree with you at all, Audio in Reason is not a 4.5 feature...for reason users that's a huge update. Kong is not a 4.5 addition, something like that is not an update you give users for free. Blocks is a total work flow enhancement, its not candidate for a free update. Not a fan boy at all because I use a lot of different products in my studio, Reason is just one of them. I've been using reason for about 7 years now, I know the product pretty well, its not perfect and never will be. Someone will always have a different concept of how it could be better. I would say that if you cant find something positive from this update then you are being closed minded.
 
^^^^^^ thank you focused please explain to this man the difference please. for record 1.5 there is a effect update there is neptune. when reason went from 2.0 to 2.5 they added the rv7000 the scream, vocoder, and spider effects units there was no new devices. the combinator and mastering effects was included in version 3. thor and the sequencer update and regroove was included in version 4. these cats, dont realize that they included 2 new devices in reason 5 and a new sequencer overhaul,tap tempo, time stretch audio and midi, mutilple controller support, now i can lock my mpd32 to just kong and my keystation pro to the nnxt and my axiom pro 49 to whatever else i feel like using. multicore support and well as updates to the combinator, and all of the other samplers with live sampling but you know cats love to complain.
 
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mrgibbs said:
ok let be honest, i guess you didn't read the updates because ive been beta testing reason 5 and record 1.5 since the 2nd day of the release. time stretch is included. for audio and midi. there is manual slice and and wav editor but i guess you didn't read that. either. i guess you dont use the 4 different eqs well now 5 that are included in reason 5. midi out i will give but 64 rewire i can't really say that i need it but that's a personal preference the same way you think they need 64bit. now slicing that's what recycle is for that why its still selling in store that your slicer right there. granted you may not want to slice with recycle you want may wanted included into reason as many of us do, but what choice do you have. none. i guess you dont realize how much time it takes to create something like blocks mode, but since i take you haven't used reason 5 yet i'll let you keep talking about something you haven't used yet. your probably a unregisterd user as well. how many effects do you really need to make good music. do you like to scroll thorugh presets or do you combine different effect tools to make your own custom effect and save it as a preset to your liking because i guess you didn't realize that just gave it user at 5 new effects. you can call me a fanboy but i'm a realist. the problem is with alot of people is they expected more and when they didn't get what they
wanted they sit back and cry about it. the only thing that got me upset is no midi out. which is fine because i was creating music without it. it not slowing me down when it comes to making music. ive been using reason since verision 1. and im registerd since version 1 so i think i can make that complaint if i choose. i guess your didn't realize they gave a sequencer a brand new overhual i guess you didn't read my post on all the stuff reason and record comes with right now. but you know what people are never satisfied. the props could have incorporated everything its users asked for and there still would be complaints because that all people on web love to do complain. they gave you a freaking ssl modeled mixer in record like seriously what more could you ask for. if some new effect units somehow going to make your musically magically that much better. i think not. if you dont like the update dont' buy it and use something that fits your needs. its too many cry babies on the internet i swear.
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Whats worse a supposed "cry baby" who thinks for himself or a straight up "yes man" who agrees with everything a company does????Seriously though I really want to hear your music ,because I'm curious to what a Reason guru like you can create with the program.
 
There will always be two sides to the coin. Keep in mind the mere fact anyone is wasting there breath in this thread shows that you have intrest in props and there products.
 
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Focused said:
I cant agree with you at all, Audio in Reason is not a 4.5 feature...for reason users that's a huge update. Kong is not a 4.5 addition, something like that is not an update you give users for free. Blocks is a total work flow enhancement, its not candidate for a free update. Not a fan boy at all because I use a lot of different products in my studio, Reason is just one of them. I've been using reason for about 7 years now, I know the product pretty well, its not perfect and never will be. Someone will always have a different concept of how it could be better. I would say that if you cant find something positive from this update then you are being closed minded.
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You said "I use alot of different products in my studio, Reason is just one of them." so I'm sure this update will only affect you in just a positive way with the new additions because I'm sure you probably don't even use Reason as a "standalone beat creation tool" like I really want to do. There are positives but to this update, but I'm sorry imho this seems like a lazy update on their part ,they wait almost 3 years to release this and this is all they update????FL studio added way more features to their Fl 9 in like 1.7 years. Propellerheads fell off....
 
dabeatdoctor1989 said:
You said "I use a lot of different products in my studio, Reason is just one of them." so I'm sure this update will only affect you in just a positive way with the new additions because I'm sure you probably don't even use Reason as a "standalone beat creation tool" like I really want to do. There are positives but to this update, but I'm sorry imho this seems like a lazy update on their part ,they wait almost 3 years to release this and this is all they update????FL studio added way more features to their Fl 9 in like 1.7 years. Propellerheads fell off....
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Dont be so sure of yourself with that! Many of my placements in film and television were done in Reason standalone, mixed in Pro Tools. I do tons of work with Reason standalone. I typically use whatever tool is necessary to get the job done. When I find Reason to be inadequate/inappropriate for what im doing, I will incorporate other tools. If you think Propellerheads "Fell off" with this update then thats your opinion. IF you find a way to NOT use reason, you will....and the converse is true
 
i **** with propellerheads and i think this update is great *shrugs*

it works for me, and i havent used any other software that is better than Reason in my opinion... and ive used em all lolol
 
Focused said:
Dont be so sure of yourself with that! Many of my placements in film and television were done in Reason standalone, mixed in Pro Tools. I do tons of work with Reason standalone. I typically use whatever tool is necessary to get the job done. When I find Reason to be inadequate/inappropriate for what im doing, I will incorporate other tools. If you think Propellerheads "Fell off" with this update then thats your opinion. IF you find a way to NOT use reason, you will....and the converse is true
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See....the key to my post is "like I really want to", I want to use Reason for the whole beat and not have to switch programs to make a beat because of some inadequacy or elementary feature that wasn't added to the program ,I'm not asking for a Daw ,I'm asking for stuff that will make Reason better and more efficient at what it does ,they advertise the program as hardware replacement with complicated features like the routing and sound design but at the same time neglect to add the basic features that hardware have....that's kinda sad ,but anyway I'm out though I gotta go.
 
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