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biggrome
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My intent was not to offend anyone...
Do good deeds.
My intent was not to offend anyone...
Do good deeds.
i read muslims are not allowed to play or hear music. hiphop is especially haram....
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Tha Wiizard
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Exactly California. The "Tithe" is an offering of 10% of your weekly earnings that are supposed to be used for "Godly Deeds" like helping the poor. Nowhere in the Bible does it say to give your "Tithe" to the church or to your pastor. That is something mankind made up once again. You guys need to actually read the word instead of looking at Clefo Dollar. A church can be nothing more that a wooden platform. Todays society has taken the "Tithe" to build huge, unnecessary cathedrals and palaces for churchs and to buy whatever they wish. This doesn't please God, serving him and abiding by his rules do. It was never meant to take the scripture and make whatever you wanted out of it.
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so you are saying that if a person scores an 89 in an IQ test, and he discovers "self" , he will magically score above the 155 mark ? Also, you HAVE said that the problem with black people is that they "bought the foreigners bull****" . well, western education is foreigner education . Also , the greeks studied in alexandria which was already under greek rule . its like me claiming that Whites in america traveled to mexico to study because technically california used to be mexico . please study the Hellenistic period . also i already agreed to disagree
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las7154
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u agree to disagrre but u still trying top make points......
read what i said and stop trying to inject your own "feelings" into it....
are u reading what im writing?....that was talking about religion...and now somehow u have made it out to mean ALL kinds of education...anyone can teach u to be an engineer because 1+1=2 no matter what language u speak or what culture u are from....but u should not let other people dictate your world view...your not dumb...stop acting like it.....
and im talking pre alexandria...before the greeks took over egypt...they had been already going there to study for a millenia....u may be talking about the "hellenistic" period...but im talking "pre-hellenistic period".....again....u are not equipped for what u are trying to do...maybe it works on those that dont know the history....not me....
so now...i have not brought up any new topic.....so..can we agree to disagree...or is it a case of u just wanting the last word?
read what i said and stop trying to inject your own "feelings" into it....
are u reading what im writing?....that was talking about religion...and now somehow u have made it out to mean ALL kinds of education...anyone can teach u to be an engineer because 1+1=2 no matter what language u speak or what culture u are from....but u should not let other people dictate your world view...your not dumb...stop acting like it.....
and im talking pre alexandria...before the greeks took over egypt...they had been already going there to study for a millenia....u may be talking about the "hellenistic" period...but im talking "pre-hellenistic period".....again....u are not equipped for what u are trying to do...maybe it works on those that dont know the history....not me....
so now...i have not brought up any new topic.....so..can we agree to disagree...or is it a case of u just wanting the last word?
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biggrome
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DING! DING! DING! now you're gettin' it.
.... you never rebutted anything I've said or believe, you pretty much showed how silly it is to believe blindly.
I'm glad you took the time to store everything you know in your head, a friend might call you from Jeopardy or something. That's about as useful as it'll get.
... that wasn't nice. You know we've been cool since to old days Cali.
Pray for me.
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i dont understand what you are trying to say . you have stated " why should i give a tenth of my money to some dude that isnt even holier than me? " and i showed that you were wrong in your assumption that to be a christian , you had to give a tenth of your money to a guy or that it was even taught in the Bible. were still cool . this is just a religion debate . it gets uglier with family members, but at the end of the day, it was just the debate on religion . We are both humans before we are anything else . also i want to apologize to any black people that took my posts as anti-black , or that i thought black people were inferior to white people . I never meant to say anything like that. im mexican , and mexico is an ass place aswell . I would rather live in the US than in mexico , and just because mexico is ass, doesnt mean i have to be ir that my human worth is lower.
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phazer_effect
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So by your logic every kind of people are ass, because everyone ultimately came from the african man and woman.
DaNOC
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Exactly California. The "Tithe" is an offering of 10% of your weekly earnings that are supposed to be used for "Godly Deeds" like helping the poor. Nowhere in the Bible does it say to give your "Tithe" to the church or to your pastor. That is something mankind made up once again. You guys need to actually read the word instead of looking at Clefo Dollar. A church can be nothing more that a wooden platform. Todays society has taken the "Tithe" to build huge, unnecessary cathedrals and palaces for churchs and to buy whatever they wish. This doesn't please God, serving him and abiding by his rules do. It was never meant to take the scripture and make whatever you wanted out of it.
Hold up the tithe is 10 % Weekly? Or yearly? In Islam we only pay 2.5% of our yearly savings that's nothing! Also to help the poor, and help those who fell off from something they had no control over. Dang I know Agents and Managers that get 10 and 15% for their services. No wonder Holy Field has people going after Crefold Dollar, he claimed over some amount of years he gave Crefold $20 million dollars in tithe, I WOULD NEVER GIVE A MAN THAT MUCH MONEY SO HE CAN FLY AROUND IN JETS, BUY HOUSES, RIDE AROUND IN ROSS ROYCES AND LIVE GOOD!
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phazer_effect
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Another thing, history we learn in The US region of North America is Eurocentric, even in Mexico and Canada it's still Eurocentric. Remember, a great portion of the Europeans were the last people to even learn how to read and write, and to obtain some kind of unique culture. There aren't many important historically cultural landmarks in the majority of Europe dating back past a few hundred years. There's numerous ones in places like South America and Central America, Africa, and Asia. The places in Europe where most of the important landmarks are located, are Greece and Italy. Greece's own scholars admit that a lot of their knowledge of the sciences and culture/language came from the Africans' great libraries. They taught the world.
Also, IQ tests are BS. There's a direct correlation between living conditions and nutrition as a child, and IQ test score. Lets not talk about the absurd amount of metals (mercury and lead) in the water of inner city schools that basically lower the capacity of the mind (average mean of 20 IQ points deducted just from fluoride in the water). Just because I have a higher IQ score than 95% of all people in the world, and 97% of "blacks", that doesn't mean much. All it means is thank God I grew up in a rural country area in the south. We had water from the well without all those metals. We also ate pretty good country food and good fruit, so I was nourished as a kid. Others aren't so lucky as you and I. And we didn't grow up rich or even well off, we were pretty poor, but because of our location and knowing how to live off the earth, I was able to beat off all those factors that affect so many more people.
So don't base all your logic just off of statistics California, we both know statistics can be manipulated to back up poorly thought our assumptions for other motives and beliefs of others mental/intellectual capabilities/altitudes.
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biggrome
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For what I've "heard", tithes are 10% of everything.
If you find a dollar on the ground, you only found $0.90. or else you're going to hell if you don't cough up that dime to Pastor Roll-a-lot.
If you find a dollar on the ground, you only found $0.90. or else you're going to hell if you don't cough up that dime to Pastor Roll-a-lot.
DaNOC
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biggrome;
Although the Church proclaims that Jesus and God are, and have always been, co-equal personalities (along with the Holy Spirit) in the Trinity, there are many passages in the New Testament that indicate Jesus was not God, was inferior to God, and in fact was just a human being. Here are some of them:
Now that was on point^5 and the references you gave were on point!
Here's one that surely says Jesus himself is showing he isn't God but he worships a God, I mean it's clear!
Bible:
John 20: 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Now if he was God why would he say "MY GOD". My is a word of possession! lol
Good joint though. I have not seen one place in the Bible where Jesus himself said "I am God/Eloi you shall worship me!" I have seen God say that many times but Jesus no. The Qur'an says Isa/Jesus said
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"5:116 And behold! Allah will say: "O Isa/Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
Remember when Jesus himself said "I can not of my OWN WILL do nothing, for I hear and OBEY........... So if he was Eloi/God then why on earth would he say that? lol Wow!
People need to read for themselves and not while a Pastor is standing over them making them read passages what they feel is right. Oh did yall know the RSV Bible has omitted the so called Trinity out of the Bible, lol the Muslims have been saying that for years! The word Trinity isn't even in the Bible.
Although the Church proclaims that Jesus and God are, and have always been, co-equal personalities (along with the Holy Spirit) in the Trinity, there are many passages in the New Testament that indicate Jesus was not God, was inferior to God, and in fact was just a human being. Here are some of them:
Now that was on point^5 and the references you gave were on point!
Here's one that surely says Jesus himself is showing he isn't God but he worships a God, I mean it's clear!
Bible:
John 20: 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Now if he was God why would he say "MY GOD". My is a word of possession! lol
Good joint though. I have not seen one place in the Bible where Jesus himself said "I am God/Eloi you shall worship me!" I have seen God say that many times but Jesus no. The Qur'an says Isa/Jesus said
QURAN:
"5:116 And behold! Allah will say: "O Isa/Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
Remember when Jesus himself said "I can not of my OWN WILL do nothing, for I hear and OBEY........... So if he was Eloi/God then why on earth would he say that? lol Wow!
People need to read for themselves and not while a Pastor is standing over them making them read passages what they feel is right. Oh did yall know the RSV Bible has omitted the so called Trinity out of the Bible, lol the Muslims have been saying that for years! The word Trinity isn't even in the Bible.
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DaNOC
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I have to agree 100% on that. Because Herodotus a Greek, in his own words said "What we have learned we have learned from the Egyptians." END QOUTE! There is no European Civilized History before the Greeks! ABSOLUTELY NONE! Everything the Greeks and Romans knew they got it from our people in Africa. From Geometry, Chemistry/Kemet Mystery-, Mathematics, Anatomy etc. Africans have built Pyramids all over the world even as far as Caral Peru to what is now known as the Americas, to Asia. There was a scientic reason they built the pyramids also. Greeks had no Alphabet and I can show you that they copied the Semitic alphabet system. Hebrew starts off with Aleph, Arabic starts off with Alif, Greeks start off with Alpha! Europeans stole symbols from Egypt. Why say stole? Because they took our history hid it then took it in secrecy, that's stealing! Here's an example.
LET ME KEEP IT BLOUNT THE EYPGTIAN HERU PIC IS B.C.E. AND THE PIC FOR THE DOLLAR BILL WAS MADE IN AD. SO THE EGYPTIANS COULDN'T HAVE STOLE THAT FROM EUROPEANS LOL
If you look on the Falcon's head of the Egyptian picture you see the Sun disk Ra, what do the Europeans go do? They changed the Falcon to a Bald Eagel and put a circle over the head in resemblence to the Egyptian Falcon and put stars in it in the resemblence of the 6 pointed star of David! Look at the wings structure, another copy, look at the feet of the Falcon and Bald Eagle as they both grasp objects. The Egyptian Falcon grasp two ankh=the circle of life and the Bald Eagle of the Europeans grasp 13 arrows and 13 leaf/Berries, representing the 13 colonies. Now if that's not thievery I don't know what is! two more goodies for the people. The very United States Flag you see is stolen from Egypt!
This is an Amenehat Medallion from Egypt, as you can see the Falcon again and the RED, WHITE, AND BLUE! LOL
Malachi 4:2, the God of Heaven is described as the “Sun of Rightesouness with healing in his wings.”
The Sun with healing in His wings?
Then in the New Testament in Matthew 23:37 and Luke 13:34, we see God’s Son wanting to gather all under “His wings.”
I find in Egyptian culture, and the Hieroglyphics that this is appropriate for them, and what is in the Bible is a contradiction and Egyptian phrase is put into the Bible unnoticed if one doesn’t know Egyptian history or see this contradiction. Proof?
This is crazy, this is what the European has done to African people, taken history and distorted it and then we retroact that what we have been taught which is not the correct frequenices. European school system teach about Europeans and not about African history! If you want to know real African history Europeans have to be left out of the equation and taught by those who are from those parts of the world. If you ask me Eurocentric teachings are dumbing our children down and programming them the wrong history, if one wants to know the real history you must deprogram them from Eurocentric ideas and what they taught. This is facts not fiction.
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las7154
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^^^^^^^^^^^^
danoc...we can agree to agree on that one....
powerful post
danoc...we can agree to agree on that one....
powerful post
DaNOC
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Peace Brother
Thanks, just because we disagree sometimes don't mean we don't have the common connection of Carbon/Melanin
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umm thats not what i said at all, in fact i stated that my parents are from Mexico, yet i dont consider myself ass although mexico is pretty ass . Also, it depends on whether you believe in evolution ,because the "lucy" creature that tehy found in africa that is supposed to be the oldest human found is usually what is cited as evidence that human originated there . But that depends on if you actually believe that creature was a human . But as far as "human-human", civilization came from Mesopotamia . Written language and many other things came from sumer, which later became babylon, then other things and finally iran/iraq area . Thats if we are talking about human civilization adn not humanoid creatures
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California
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you both agree on "black people are superior" . surprising . IMAGINE if you WERE superiror ? that would be terrible since it would make it inexcusable for so many afro-americans to be in the condition they were in . Also, even if it were true that the greek and Romans got EVERYTHING from egypt ,(which is easilly not true) , the greews , romasn etc, took over from there and that was 2000 years ago . There have been a trillion fold more advances SINCE then . so if it was true taht "Africa was the leader in knowledge from antiquity until 400 bc (hellenistic/western takeover)" then it would make africa look even more ass . with africa in control of knowledge and civilization trends, it took them 10 thousand to stay the same, then the "others" came in and in 2000 years jumped great leaps. if we looked at a chart of the advancements made between 5000BC and 400BC and between 400BC adn 2000 AD, it would be laughable
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K-1ne
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Since we're discussing Egyptians and Africa, check this:
The tallest pyramid in the world, in the Balkans.
The Vatican raped our (Serbian) history as they don't seem to like us for some reason.
The Vatican doesn't like you too.
The tallest pyramid in the world, in the Balkans.
The Vatican raped our (Serbian) history as they don't seem to like us for some reason.
The Vatican doesn't like you too.
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DaNOC
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Well on the contrary to what you are saying, If Herodotus, and I have the book said he and all of the Greeks got their Knowledge from the Egyptians, ummmmm are you blaming me for that? lol I didn't say it I am just repeating it. Again SHOW ME CAUCASIAN HISTORY PRE-GREEK AND KNOWLEDGE OF CIVILIZATIONS AND I WILL SHUT UP! They had no mathematics, Geology, Astronomy, etc they got it from the Egyptians who were the children of Kush! I want you to understand something, Ethiopia was already advanced! Your take on advance and theirs is totally different! Let me put it to you like this, our whole toilet/Sewage system IS FROM EGYPT! The first man known to do brain surgery is IMHOTEP WHO BUILT THE FIRST PYRAMID FOR KING DOISZER! Where do you think all the tools you see with doctors come from? EGYPT! Healing process, EGYPT! Way before the Caucasian Greeks came on the scene! So advance to what? an Ipod? lol They were dealing with Atomology, Carbon etc long before the Greeks came on the scene. Don't talk about Airplanes and Helicopters and computers either! They had their own computers they didn't put it on a chip and weren't lazy to USE THEIR MINDS! They went into space and didn't have to leave EARTH TO DO IT! So when you say advance what do you really mean?
I can show you how advance they were. This is the threed pyramids, lined precisely mathematically on point not a niche out of pocket with the Orion belt! THE THREE KINGS BABY!
Pyramids and Orion's Belt.
Where in Greek culture are their greater monuments than these, where?
Here's Peru Caral this pyramid is four football 100 yards long!
Now in Mexico, I told you we were all over the earth.
Now Cali I ask you FIND ME ONE GREEK MONUMENT GREATER THAN JUST THE ONES IN EGYPT AND I WILL SHUT UP!
Now the inferior thing, when one is great, one doesn't have to brag if they are superior, OTHERS WILL TELL THEM THEY ARE! So I don't need to go into that. Not once in my notes have you seen me say Inferior or Superior. But I tell you this, I know Caucasians didn't come first and the original man is the Nubian man, not a black man! I don't use the word black, because that word separates me from my Alkebulan/African brothers and sistas! So I use the word Nubian! Now being that THE GREEKS WERE TAUGHT THEN CAME IN AND STOLE THE KNOWLEDGE THEN THE ROMANS, AND THE PERSIANS AND SO FORTH, UMMMMMM ASK YOURSELF SOMETHING WHY WOULD THEY STEAL? People only steal something they don't have or something that is WORTH MORE THAN WHAT THEY HAVE THEMSELVES! It's very Ironic that Beer that the US has and some people love to drink WAS FROM EGYPT!
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Tha Wiizard
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Well on the contrary to what you are saying, If Herodotus, and I have the book said he and all of the Greeks got their Knowledge from the Egyptians, ummmmm are you blaming me for that? lol I didn't say it I am just repeating it. Again SHOW ME CAUCASIAN HISTORY PRE-GREEK AND KNOWLEDGE OF CIVILIZATIONS AND I WILL SHUT UP! They had no mathematics, Geology, Astronomy, etc they got it from the Egyptians who were the children of Kush! I want you to understand something, Ethiopia was already advanced! Your take on advance and theirs is totally different! Let me put it to you like this, our whole toilet system IS FROM EGYPT! The first man man known to do brain surgery is IMHOTEP WHO BUILT THE FIRST PYRAMID FOR KING DOISZER! Where do you think all the tools you see with doctors come from? EGYPT! Healing process, EGYPT! Way before the Caucasian Greeks came on the scene! So advance to what? an Ipod? lol
Where in Greek culture are their greater monuments than these, where?
Here's Peru Caral this pyramid is four football 100 yards long!
Now in Mexico, I told you we were all over the earth.
Now Cali I ask you FIND ME ONE GREEK MONUMENT GREATER THAN JUST THE ONES IN EGYPT AND I WILL SHUT UP!
Now the inferior thing, when one is great, one doesn't have to brag if they are superior, OTHERS WILL TELL THEY ARE! So I don't need to go into that. Not once in my notes have you seen me say Inferior or Superior. But I tell you this, I know Caucasians didn't come first and the original man is the Nubian man, not a black man! I don't use the word black, because that word separates me from my Alkebulan/African brothers and sistas! So I use the word Nubian! Now being that THE GREEKS WERE TAUGHT THEN CAME IN AND STOLE THE KNOWLEDGE THEN THE ROMANS, AND THE PERSIANS AND SO FORTH, UMMMMMM ASK YOURSELF SOMETHING WHY WOULD THEY STEAL? People only steal something they don't have or something that is WORTH MORE THAN WHAT THEY HAVE THEMSELVES! It's very Ironic that Beer that the US has and some people love to drink WAS FROM EGYPT!
Man, shut the fuk up with this bullshyt.
