Just got Beat Thang Virtual

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One thing has nothing to do with the other. I put a lot of things on the web. The download of the Beat Thang Virtual trial had nothing to do with not liking the anti-piracy system.

Sharing is a good thing. What a sick world we live in where people are punished for sharing.
 
When are you going to understand that putting the software on your website was not your decision to make?

I agree that sharing is a good thing and I routinely share things on this site and others. However, I do not share things such as software, samples, etc. that are protected. If they are demo's, I will post a link to the website, etc...

I am done with this argument. Its obvious you will never see that you were wrong?

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When are you going to understand that putting the software on your website was not your decision to make?

I agree that sharing is a good thing and I routinely share things on this site and others. However, I do not share things such as software, samples, etc. that are protected. If they are demo's, I will post a link to the website, etc...

I am done with this argument. Its obvious you will never see that you were wrong?

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yo lol, I think it's pretty much time you just left it alone, I think you're gonna keep wasting your time man lol. He feels he did nothing wrong, he thinks sharing someone elses software is his decision to make, even though they didn't post an official trial.

I just don't see you getting anywhere with this guy on that specific topic, he'll never feel he was wrong.

peace man, thanks for trying to point it out but...sometimes you just gotta move on lol. The Kangz see this guy, they know who he is, and I also agree with you on marginalization...nobody would want to work with someone who acts in this manner when they encounter something they don't like, no matter what "reasons" they have.

carry on :)
 
yo lol, I think it's pretty much time you just left it alone, I think you're gonna keep wasting your time man lol. He feels he did nothing wrong, he thinks sharing someone elses software is his decision to make, even though they didn't post an official trial.

I just don't see you getting anywhere with this guy on that specific topic, he'll never feel he was wrong.

peace man, thanks for trying to point it out but...sometimes you just gotta move on lol. The Kangz see this guy, they know who he is, and I also agree with you on marginalization...nobody would want to work with someone who acts in this manner when they encounter something they don't like, no matter what "reasons" they have.

carry on :)

SaintJoe,

I know, your right. I also know the Kangz know who this dude is. I am done with this as said in my last post, but I just wanted this dude to realize his error, but that's obviously not going to happen? He's a clown and now everyone knows it.

This project is important to me because I feel its our best shot to get a piece of gear that we need and want, for people who make music and they (The Kangz) have their ear to the street and are listening to us and I am going to continue to help their cause because I respect what they are doing. I know your onboard too.

Take Care!

PEACE
 
yeah man...well, I wouldn't call dude a clown, he's just passionate about a specific thing (copy protection, sharing, etc) unfortunately, it doesn't apply well in all situations and no matter how we feel, copy protection is there, and we are not allowed to share software unless specifically stated.

I'm on board too,for the same reasons, I think they are really listening to us and trying to give us the major things we ask for. I'm excited about it, especially because most of what is done to the software will translate to the hardware :)
 
^^^^^ Yeah, I should have my software in a couple days and the unit as soon as they are ready! Gonna be tight!

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We agree, debate about intellectual property doesn't belong in a thread titled, "Just got Beat Thang Virtual".

If you want to teach me my error, you may explain it to me with carefully reasoned language in another thread or email.

You can see the logic used to justify distribution of Beat Thang Virtual here:
jamon.name/intellectual+property+thought+experiment+goo
 
Hey saintjoe, how many different effects can be assigned to each individual track?
 
jamon, you said you own a lot of computers. Why not dedicate one to the beat thang if it's that big a deal? also, I get the feeling you'll be thoroughly pissed if it doesn't allow you to use an open source OS. What is up that you are putting yourself through this? can't you just hack into a PSP or something? What exactly do you expect this open source OS to do that can't be done on something already available?
 
Principles. It's still early so it's easier to change things now. Once the process is entrenched, there's no going back. I'm trying to help the Kangz get things right from the start.

The Beat Thang represents a new breed of audio hardware. It is PC + dedicated merged into one, best of both worlds. See with a laptop computer, you have lots of possibilities for software, and more powerful features than you'll ever need. But you have to click around, move windows, select things, etc. That's not fun. It blocks creative flow.

Then you've got dedicated hardware. This stuff is great, it's using optimized chips and low-level code with no big OS to slow things down, real knobs, dials, sliders, it feels like an instrument. But the software is proprietary, and there's not much power. It's not like a PC where you can load up 1,000 different VST FX and instruments with scientific waveform analysis.

What we want to do is merge the power and diversity of the PC software, with the dedication and feel of the hardware. MIDI controllers are not enough. You still have to click, you're still anchored to your PC.

The Beat Thang is a PC brain, with all the stuff you'd want for audio, built into a dedicated control surface. It's like a laptop specifically designed for musicians. You've got the portability of a laptop, you've got the XLR+1/4 input without dangling USB interfaces. You've got MIDI without external box. Pads, pitch/mod, buttons, dials, LCD screen, it's all there built into one.

They're developing the soul application, that fits their vision, and does stuff they and their friends want to do. But what we have is the first merger between PC and instrument. It's not like the MPC. It's not like a laptop. It's both, in one. That means we can program it like we do a computer. We can run anything, invent anything, transform it into a million different monsters.

Everyone doesn't make beats. Maybe someone wants to load it up and use it as a synth. Maybe someone wants to use it as a vocal FX unit. Maybe someone wants to load a Speak n Spell emulator so they can play hangman using the pads, "A E I O U". It's anything, but it's better than a laptop + controller + audio/midi interface because it's all solidified into one dedicated package.

Now keep in mind all of this is based on speculation, based on unverified guesses I've made about the true specs of this machine, what's under the hood. There's a lot that'd have to be right for it to work as I imagine. Maybe the processor is underpowered, maybe it has a nasty loud cooling fan, maybe the audio interface is poor quality, maybe the OS space is way too small to fit anything exciting, maybe it's not running the OS I think it is at all.

I don't know. But I've been investigating, and have been looking at different ways to do this on my own for awhile, and so far this seems to be the most promising route that exists today in the real world. That is why, despite it seemingly being far from fully baked, I want to see the Beat Thang come out fresh, hot, and smelling good.

If by some chance I've made correct guesses, and things align luckily, then we really could see major changes in the audio industry from this device. No longer would we think in terms of software vs hardware. The two worlds would become one, and we'd be trying to figure out the best way to get a new softsynth to fit into the Thang, so we could play it like we just bought a new keyboard.

Think that sounds fun? Like the idea of being able to pop on a website, browse through a list of OS', and drop them into your hardware to transform it into a new type of musical machine? Then stay tuned as we uncover more top secret facts from the Kangz bunker, and see if this could work. If it turns out plausible, drop that grand on the pre-order to show some support. Otherwise, keep looking for other ways, and keep exploring new options.
 
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Yeah I see where you're going with it. I hope it's everything you're looking for.
 
They're developing the soul application, that fits their vision, and does stuff they and their friends want to do. But what we have is the first merger between PC and instrument. It's not like the MPC. It's not like a laptop. It's both, in one. That means we can program it like we do a computer. We can run anything, invent anything, transform it into a million different monsters.

Everyone doesn't make beats. Maybe someone wants to load it up and use it as a synth. Maybe someone wants to use it as a vocal FX unit. Maybe someone wants to load a Speak n Spell emulator so they can play hangman using the pads, "A E I O U". It's anything, but it's better than a laptop + controller + audio/midi interface because it's all solidified into one dedicated package.

What you want is already here. It's been here for a while. It cost more than a Beat Thang, but you can do everything that you just mentioned, and it's shipping right now.

Here's your dream come true:



openlabs-dbeat.jpg




And for $150 more, you can have a Beat Thang virtual inside it too!!!!!!
 
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What you want is already here. It's been here for a while. It cost more than a Beat Thang, but you can do everything that you just mentioned, and it's shipping right now.

Here's your dream come true:



openlabs-dbeat.jpg




And for $150 more, you can have a Beat Thang virtual inside it too!!!!!!


Oh shnap. I'd cop this. This is an MPC on Steroids. If I was a hardware die-hard, this would be a dream come true. You could put ableton, Battery, and every other drum or sample based program in that joint. WOW!!!!
 
lol at bringing up the d-beat. You could just get a laptop and a mpd32 for thousands less and have the same thing as the dbeat. Besides, the integration between software and hardware in the dbeat is not as tight as what Jamon is talking about. The dbeat is just a computer running XP mated with built in midi gear. True integrated hardware/software is something like the Maschine.
 
Well, if you check out his website, you will see that he truly believes and hopes that The Beat Thang is actually just a computer running Linux.

It is my prediction that the Beat Thang is running embedded Linux, and is therefore a computer, not a dedicated audio device like the Akai MPC. This has its pros and cons. On one hand, it's going to be really easy to hack, and will be able to do anything a computer can. On the other, it has latency. That's one of the major reasons why I don't like to use personal computers for audio production.

-Taken from his website ( jamon.name/bke+beat+thang )-


If that's the case, then Dbeat is already what he is looking for based on what he already said:



They're developing the soul application, that fits their vision, and does stuff they and their friends want to do. But what we have is the first merger between PC and instrument. It's not like the MPC. It's not like a laptop. It's both, in one. That means we can program it like we do a computer. We can run anything, invent anything, transform it into a million different monsters.

Everyone doesn't make beats. Maybe someone wants to load it up and use it as a synth. Maybe someone wants to use it as a vocal FX unit. Maybe someone wants to load a Speak n Spell emulator so they can play hangman using the pads, "A E I O U". It's anything, but it's better than a laptop + controller + audio/midi interface because it's all solidified into one dedicated package.


One last thing, you can't do anything with Maschine without a computer.
 
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Jamon, u should just get PD and make your own music software on a linux machine. No limit to what you can do on something like that.
 
One last thing, you can't do anything with Maschine without a computer.

I know that's what makes it so great. Now instead of my MPC with 128mb of ram I can have 4gb of ram. No USB transfers that take time, just immediate drag and drop of audio.
 
Hey saintjoe, how many different effects can be assigned to each individual track?

I think you get 2 sends to the verb and delay, one to the freak I believe and the BANG is global.

however, I've asked about insert fx per track/pad in addition to the sends so we'll see whatup!

if you go to my beat thang site, I when through the fx layout a lil bit.
 
different strokes for different folks...

I just wanted to show yall my beat thang virtual...and guess what?

when I get the hardware...I'll do another post :) hahaha.

peace!
 
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