Just got Beat Thang Virtual

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I still need to get hands on the unit to feel the build, the knobs, the pads.
hey saint joe are u controlling the virtual with your maschine controller? how is it working? what are your likes dislikes at this point?
 
nah, I don't have my maschine yet, I'm just using my emu xboard, it works fine and I like the workflow....i think it will continue to get better
 
I got my Beat Thang Virtual too.

jamon.name/bke+beat+thang+virtual
 
I just picked up a Maschine, so I dont think I have a need for this product now. But I'll keep an eye on the reviews for it.
 
When the hardware comes out, how big will it's library be?
 
same sound library in software....as the hardware...that way everything is interchangable
 
looks crap IMO

nothing wrong with opionions, we all have them...I think how it looks does have an effect on a person...as with any software.

If you don't feel inspired to use something based on how it looks, it's probably not a good fit for ya!

thanks for sharing your opinion though man...that's what forums are all about.
 
I got my Beat Thang Virtual too.

jamon.name/bke+beat+thang+virtual

What was the link for that they wanted you to "Remove Immediately"?

Did you actually put up the software?

Just wondering?

ONE
 
No disc?

What's up, it just comes with a usb drive and that's it?

Is that a dongle too?


Nevemind, I see that it is.
 
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Ya, I compressed the contents of the USB drive and uploaded it for people to leech. There are people who live outside the USA who have to wait a long time for their shipment to arrive, and most people won't drop cash on a new product they've never even tried.

They have nasty anti-piracy software that installs a kernel driver and actively attacks debugging tools to try and prevent cracking. It has a trial period, so what I was trying to distribute is nothing more than a Beat Thang Virtual trial. But they freaked out.

I don't even have a serial. After paying, you wait days to receive what you could've downloaded in minutes. Then you have to install that anti-piracy stuff so it can fingerprint your PC. After you email them the fingerprint, you wait for a reply with your activation file.

They don't say anything about what you do if you change your hardware configuration. They don't tell you about all the horror stories and known problems the anti-piracy system has caused people in the past. There is a boycott of that system in place.

I've been following this thing since January, even sticking up for these guys when the public opinion was against them. I wanted the hardware so we could hack it and bypass Akai forever since their OS is buggy garbage. I definitely was on their side.

But I still haven't installed the Virtual, despite it sitting here for 4 days now. I have principles, and they conflict with their severe paranoia over intellectual property control. I paid a grand, and yet they want me to interlock my PC with them to run it.

I don't want to risk my multimedia workstation's integrity with a kernel driver that does nothing but treat me like a potential criminal, and I don't want to break my own principles by going along with something I believe to be a step in the wrong direction.

Beat Thang Virtual will be cracked*. It is guaranteed. This anti-piracy system has been bypassed many times in the past because it is used by many audio plugins. They don't seem to realize that and are going overboard on the intellectual property warfare.

Did you read the license? You can't even use the sounds without attribution credit to the Beat Kangz. It's like some scheme to try and market their music group. If no one knows who you are, sell a sampler and force people to advertise your name.

I still want to see this product succeed, but the Kangz are making that difficult. Hopefully there aren't too many other decisions that were made with the same poor judgment as some of these we see with the Virtual. Who knows though with all the secrecy.

Rather than spend all their time and money on all the hyped marketing with, "Yo yo yo were real independent company from the street yall power to the people **** akai lets battle CEO vs CEO!" maybe they could've been a little more real with basic facts.

I'm collecting whatever little data I find on the many sites they market on and publishing it on my site as a way to cut through the fluff and getting to the bone. But that pissed them off too apparently, as they wanted ALL references removed.

I'm not a hater or a fan. I'm just interested in the tools.

* No, I didn't say I was going to make and distribute the crack, just like I didn't say that on KVR.
 
^^^^Ok, while I understand your point and concern with the Anti-Piracy Software, what are people like the Beat Kangz supposed to do to protect their hard work and investment? Also, they are now a company with some major investment and that has to be protected with Lawyers. I am sure they have Lawyer's telling them the best way to protect themselves and their company.

Also, if the Kangz wanted a demo version of the software, they would have offered it on their site. It really wasn't your decision to make and I can see why they got upset with you! Now, I don't want to start a web war with you, I just think that you marginalized yourself by your actions. Did you try to contact the Beat Kangz with your concerns before going this route? Did you ask them for a refund because of your position on the Anti Piracy Software? I am just wondering what opportunity you gave the Beat Kangz to rectify this before hand?

I am sincerely hoping that Beat Kangz succeed with this project and future projects! I believe that their involvement in this industry is good for the industry as a whole and for us, the people buying gear! We should do all we can to help them with this as they are going up against great odds already! Along the way, if we have concerns or questions with what is going on, let's at least give them the chance to fix it or address our concerns before counting them out!

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PEACE
 
I don't like the anti piracy scheme either, but I don't like many of the schemes out... I like the newer ones from companies like NI and FXpansion, very simple and on obtrusive.

However, even on the companies whose scheme I don't like...I have the choice to either use it, or not use it. I've never had any problems with antipiracy software in the past...so I'm not overly paranoid about it.

But everyone has their standards of operation and how they want to run their workstations...so it's cool if you don't want to install it for that reason.

If it was my company, I wouldn't have been cool with you posting my software either.

As far as the license, I don't really see them going after people for using the sounds or beats off there... lol maybe the unedited preset beats they are talkin about?

IF that is the case, and they want people to give them attribution for even using the samples...then...well...I definitely wouldn't think that was a smart move, but like I said...I really doubt that's the case, I'll try to find out for sure what that means. I'm wondering if it's referring to the premade "beats" ?

I don't think the anti piracy thing is that big of an issue, however, I would definitely like to see them look into a different system, the manual activation is annoying when you get your virtual on the weekend and have to wait until the next week to get your activation...if you start and restart or whatever a few times, those 30 tries dwindle quickly.
 
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so basically, u can't use the USB key as a portable Beat Thang virtual, so u can use the software on any machine. Bad move, but I guess it'll mostly hurt people who buy the software but don't buy the hardware since the hardware itself is portable. Still, wow.
 
so basically, u can't use the USB key as a portable Beat Thang virtual, so u can use the software on any machine. Bad move, but I guess it'll mostly hurt people who buy the software but don't buy the hardware since the hardware itself is portable. Still, wow.

that would have been dope...but really, how many programs operate like that? very few...

I agree, it would be dope...but like you said...I think this thing evolved after the hardware instead of the main program...so the portability and such is gained from the hardware.

but I would also have liked to see it be mobile...but then..you'd be limited by the size of the key. I would like to see something run off the key...but I wouldn't want to be limited to only what's on the key..unless they put it on a bigger key!
 
Did you read the license? You can't even use the sounds without attribution credit to the Beat Kangz. It's like some scheme to try and market their music group. If no one knows who you are, sell a sampler and force people to advertise your name.

I still want to see this product succeed, but the Kangz are making that difficult. Hopefully there aren't too many other decisions that were made with the same poor judgment as some of these we see with the Virtual. Who knows though with all the secrecy.

So I checked with Aja, and basically, like I suspected...it's only for those that wish to take the preset beats and make a song out of it. Just giving credit where it's due I suppose.

But you can use the sounds and samples to create your own stuff no problem.

I just got the response from Aja himself...so yeah, you can use any of the sounds as normal...but if a rapper takes the Thang and uses one of the premade tracks for their next single...all they askin is a lil credit.

doesn't seem like much of a big deal to me and it's what I assumed they were talking about when you pointed it out, but I wanted to be sure.

I didn't pay attention to it because I never have any plans to use premade beats lol. I listen to their pattenrs just to get an ideal of the capabilites...and listen to the various sounds "in context" but that's it.

hope that makes sense bro
 
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