Ali'i
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[F_or_DEAF] said:If you support wack music than you are guilty of the crime of conspiring to murder hip hop...
Weeeeelp.. I'm just gonna stop with you. One of those people who can't let go.
[F_or_DEAF] said:If you support wack music than you are guilty of the crime of conspiring to murder hip hop...
Jackpot ProductionZ said:Some people can't let go the fact that Hip Hop has evolved into mainstream form and it's not going back.
Jackpot ProductionZ said:Some people can't let go the fact that Hip Hop has evolved into mainstream form and it's not going back. It's evolved into a form that people who are into pop, country, r&b & rock&roll can enjoy as well. It no longer belongs to 1 culture or tastemaker........
10 years from now there are gonna be cats who are gonna consider 2002-2010 their "Golden Years" of Hip Hop.......
Some people might not like it but get used to it because it's not going backwards.......
Ali'i said:Weeeeelp.. I'm just gonna stop with you. One of those people who can't let go.
[F_or_DEAF] said:I DON'T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE SHYT IS NOT GETTING BETTER...
BUT OF COURSE...THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE...RIGHT?
ALL YOU ARE PROBABLY GONNA DO TOMORROW IS JUST MAKE A BEAT OR WRITE SOME LYRICS THAT IS BASICALLY A CARBON COPY OF THE BULLSHYT THAT IS ON THE RADIO / TV RIGHT NOW...
I find it hard to believe that supporters of the de-evolution of hip hop are gonna come with ORIGINAL shyt...
don't lie to yourself...
talking bout, "man, I got that original shyt, my shyt is different"...
no...
if you co-signin' what the phuck is going on in hip hop today,
THEN YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM...
Ant McQueen said:When I say it's getting worse, I mean overall, I'd be lying if I said that everything that comes out is wack. In my opinion the artists that are out now are talented, but I don't think they utilize their talent like they're capable of.
Jackpot ProductionZ said:My point is it's 2008 & people were saying the same thing in 1998 that were from the 1988 era and it's gonna be the same thing said in 2018.......
It's not going backwards and what's hot to some isn't hot to others, point blank. This generation probably has enjoyed the Murder Inc/G-Unit Era a lot more then the Ruff Ryders/Roc-A-Fella Era, nothing wrong with that........
Worse or Better is still at the end of the day personal preference.......
[F_or_DEAF] said:don't try to make the simple-minded-excuse / argument that if you don't like the BULLSHYT that is HOT today, then you are stuck in the past...
that is a felonious way to think dog...
not even smart...not even close...
Jackpot ProductionZ said:And once people figure out that music doesn't evolve around "Hip Hop" then they'll understand why it is what it is today and where it's going from here on out........
Music is bigger then Hip Hop.......
Ali'i said:I agree.. Lyrically.. Definitely more thought put into the lyrics of the underground artists, but that kind of stuff doesn't play very well in clubs.. I think some of the top artists are capable of putting something out as lyrically complex as... Rizza...
[F_or_DEAF] said:well go on ahead and fall in line with all the other cats that think the same way you do...
and I guarantee...
just about all a ya'llz beatz / music is gonna sound...for the most part...THE SAME...
ya'll thinking the same...
so how your beats ain't gonna sound the same???
THINK DIFFERENT = SOUND DIFFERENT
THINK SIMILAR = SOUND SIMILAR
simple math...
EDIT: Never Mind, I just realized what type of person I'm debating with, lol.......[F_or_DEAF] said:well go on ahead and fall in line with all the other cats that think the same way you do...
and I guarantee...
just about all a ya'llz beatz / music is gonna sound...for the most part...THE SAME...
ya'll thinking the same...
so how your beats ain't gonna sound the same???
THINK DIFFERENT = SOUND DIFFERENT
THINK SIMILAR = SOUND SIMILAR
simple math...
Ali'i said:Saying **** is whack just because it isn't what you grew up on isn't very smart at all.. And that's really what I'm saying, but you can take it that way if you want.
[F_or_DEAF] said:it ain't about what you grew up with...IT'S ABOUT CONTENT...
era makes no difference...
obviously content don't matter no more...because you sure in the hell don't need it to sell millions...
matter of fact, if you don't come off like A DAMN FOOL, you probably ain't gonna sell shyt...
as far as hip hop is concerned...
Ali'i said:I bet I've got a much wider range of musical influences than you ever will have..
Ali'i said:By 'what you grew up with' .. I'm gonna take that as influence.. and influence definitely has a HUGE impact on your content!
Once again... opinion dude.
... The only reason I'm still in this thread is cause I'm drunk.
[F_or_DEAF] said:it ain't about what you grew up with...IT'S ABOUT CONTENT...
era makes no difference...
obviously content don't matter no more...because you sure in the hell don't need it to sell millions...
matter of fact, if you don't come off like A DAMN FOOL, you probably ain't gonna sell shyt...
as far as hip hop is concerned...
[F_or_DEAF] said:YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE INFLUENCES YOU WANT...
THAT JUST EQUATES HAVING MORE SHYT TO BITE FROM...
The fact of the matter is...you will never in your life be as ILL, RAW, OR INNOVATIVE as me...
face it...
now hop back on your midi controller and bust out some more basic melodies & concepts...
you starting to get on my nerves...
[F_or_DEAF] said:I refuse to converse with a drunk...