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reggaetonero15
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why not 75% or 80%. i find those easier to work with.
Why are volume knobs and piano roll notes all set to 78% as default in FL Studio?
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kain101
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reggaetonero15 said:
i dont believe there is a particular reason for it
jmk9992
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Ummm...change em?
GoodMoney
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Lol yup^^^
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DJ Trigonometry
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so your levels dont clip. if its high.. your almost always gonna get distortion
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wraith302
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Divide 100 from 127 and you have your answer.
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kisoon
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HUH? What does that mean?wraith302 said:
PianoReeves
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wraith302 said:
1.27? lol
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wraith302
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Most knobs in fl studio go up to 100 instead of 127, so they start the volume out at about 78. 127 is the highest velocity you can have in midi I think.
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street ninja
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wraith302 said:
Exactly!
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JimbaFrosty
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well when i play out my stuff the velocity and everything its all over the place to what i play so i dont have a problem with it lol
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dvyce
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wraith302 said:
what does that even mean?!? Not only does it have no relation, from what I can see, to the number 78, but you even say "about 78"-- so tyou are not even talking about a method of arriving at "78"!
street ninja said:
OK, then you explain it to me...
(by the way, I would imagine it is just an arbitrary number they chose.)
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street ninja
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dvyce said:
In MIDI there are 128 'levels' 0-127 (Its not an arbitrary number, it has to do with the math behind digital quantization... I won't get into it. Its boils down to 2 raised to the power of 5 = 128)...
When you play notes with a keyboard or other controller, whatever velocity you hit key with is recorded. Hit a key softly and you'll get a low velocity (quieter sound)...hit the key hard, and you get a higher velocity (louder).
When you use a mouse in FL's step sequencer or piano roll however, there is no velocity recorded, so FL automatically assigns it a value of 100.
100 divided by 128 = 78.125%
Its the same thing with your volume knobs... they technically have 128 possible values, but for simplicity, in FL they make it appear as if its a 0%-100% scale. So when you load a new chanel, by default its MIDI value is 100, which equals ~78%.
I hope that is a somewhat decent explanation... I'm a lil red-eyed right now haha. If you still don't get it, I'll try to explain it more later on.
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dvyce
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street ninja said:
I understand MIDI and that it is based on a 0-127 scale...
that is not what i was not understanding...
It was his explanation of why they chose "78" to be "THE number"...
(it is not an explanation to say "the knobs in FL go to 100 and midi goes to 127, so they start the volume out at about 78")
And your explanation, even though there is a calculation showing how "78" would come from dividing 100 by 128 (which is .78125, not 78.125, by the way)... and that "78" is the relative value to "100" in a 0-127 scale...
It still does not explain why the number "100" on a scale of 0-127 would be chosen... nor why a value of "78" on a scale of 0-100 would be chosen...
It still sounds like an arbitrary number to me.
Because there is no "standard" number of "100" (out of 127) that is used for a default midi volume as a generality in sequencers.
for example, if I make a note with the mouse in protools, the default volume is "80" (out of 127)
Do you see what I am saying?
--and on a different but related topic: You can't set midi note velocity incrementally from 0-127 in FL? That seems silly for them to create a sequencer that works that way. That is quite limiting, in my opinion.
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street ninja
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dvyce said:
.78125 IS 78.125%...
dvyce said:
I'm not certain why they chose 100 as the default value (although 100 seems like a nice round number)
78% just a number which is derived from the 100/128 equation.
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dvyce
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street ninja said:
you are absolutely correct... when I read it before I did not notice the "%"... i was just talking about the math of 100/128... i was not trying to make any sort of issue about that, anyway.
street ninja said:
which leads back to my point and the original question of this thread:
Why did they choose 78% (or 100) as the default value?
While your calculation explains how 100 relates to 78%, there is nothing that explains why they would have chosen 100 in the first place, or if that is the reason they chose 78% (the fact that the 2 numbers do relate to each other does not show that to be the reason it was chosen)
I would guess that it was just chosen because it "felt right" to the creators of the software...
but if anybody really cares, they can try sending an email to the FL support department and maybe they will get an answer.
...I would say that anything else is just speculation.
...not that it matters any more than why ProTools uses a default velocity of 80, or why cubase uses whatever it uses, or logic uses whatever it uses...