Beatdoc, u should have wrote, "in my LACK of experience with Live..." lol, i'm playin, but i got hip to Live in ver.4, and i've been sampling and choping in there since the day i got it. i started out makin beats in FL3, so i'm pretty well versed in both programs. I know both, very well. Have not got on FL8 yet, still rockin FL7, and i used to champion FL as the fastest thing to go from static sample to chopped and ready sequence, but now that Live 7 has "slice to midi track" which is the equivilent of "send to new slicer channel", i've since changed my tune. As far as the right click-send to new slicer/slice to midi goes, thats pretty much the same, but the ultra speed comes in when u want to add efx to individual slices. Slice to midi wins cause u can easily espand the rack which has each slice on it's own seperate track, so addin efx is then as easy as addin efx to any other channel in Live. Which is drag n drop. Have not used slicex yet, but as far as the send to new slicer, can u even do efx per slice? I know u can assign the track to an individual track in the mixer, but can u assign each slice to it's own mixer channel? Or do u have to put the slices in the fpc or something then slice. Now ur probably thinkin "why would u want to efx each slice seperately?" well what if i have a drum loop i want to chop and add diff compression to the kick and snare and eq the hats and cymbals? See how that can be handle very quicly with minimal clicking? Again, i'm still not experianced inside n out with slicex so i can't shoot it down. I'm kinda curious why u said u needed 3rd party plugins to do everything u can do under Live's hood. When i got Live 4, all it came with was impulse and and simpler. Ohhh, it just hit me, neither of those is a tru multi-sampler like the nnxt. But what i would do, is make my loop in a track, then copy that clip and adjust the start end points, (like truncatin in the mpc, which is where i learned to sample) and drag them in impulse. Sounds like a lot of work compared to right click-send to slicer/midi, but it was a hell of a lot faster then doin it on the mpc, i'll tell ya that much. fL was my first software, i also learned alot about sequencing and a lil about synth programmin from it too, mpc was here i learned to sample, reason is where all my FL knowledge fell into place and how i really learned to program synths and how to use efx, Live brought the mpc workflow into the software world for me. So i know all 3 programs very well, i'm not ok in one and good in another, i could use either of them all stand alone and still get it done. As for recycle, it's a great tool, i just think it should be able to record audio and should be integrated into reason, much like edison, where u can record into it, chop, and send it to whateva module. If they did that for reason, that'd be wonderful. There's still the issue of audio tracks in reason, which i don't care to have, but atleast integrate recycle and stop tryin to pull a digidesign on us with the nickle n dime crap. Atleast props only do it with one product and not every single little thing like gig does. Anyway, beatdoctor, i'm looking fwd to ur rebuttle, and if u have questions, i'd b glad to elaborate.
LevLove
I forgot to mention that i don't use any 3rd party plugs with Live, (but, i do have free versions of the arp2600 and minimogue va), but for sounds, they moistly come from reason.as i've stated in a few other threads, Live is the new FL, they are more similar to each other then they are different. And if u peep some of the threads, cats is startin to hate on it for no reason, sound familiar? But to be fair, all the stuff i used to do manually in Live that is right clickable now, FL had alot of it first. To be honest, I loved the simplicity and manualness of Live 4, i leanred live just by keepin the info view open. I ain't start using the help menu til ver5, by then i was well on my way.