Put me on to some Reggae

[Bezo]

No dancehall, please!

I was on vacation in Jamaica a while back and a native told me the music I like is called roots rock. To my surprise, he said it wasn't that big down there. Dancehall and American pop re-makes are the thing.

Any way, I need some reggae music. I like live instrumentation. I have various Marley CDs, Burn Spear's Marcus Garvey, Peter Tosh's Equal Rights & Legalize It, and Steel Pulse's Tribute to the Martyrs. So I'm looking for similar artist or other good albums by these artist. Good lead or rhythm guitar would be a plus.

 

[engineroom]

No dancehall, please!

I was on vacation in Jamaica a while back and a native told me the music I like is called roots rock. To my surprise, he said it wasn't that big down there. Dancehall and American pop re-makes are the thing.

Any way, I need some reggae music. I like live instrumentation. I have various Marley CDs, Burn Spear's Marcus Garvey, Peter Tosh's Equal Rights & Legalize It, and Steel Pulse's Tribute to the Martyrs. So I'm looking for similar artist or other good albums by these artist. Good lead or rhythm guitar would be a plus.

A "native???" WTF! A good thing you never meet me in JA and call me a native.

Roots reggae, not roots rock (a song or two sings "roots rock reggae")- why is it surprising? Are you surprised that all of the US doesn't listen to 70s classic rock or disco all the time?

for the style with guitar, you might also try the Gladiators, 70s era Lee Perry stuff, all of Tosh's stuff, most early Steel Pulse albums.

 

[Bezo]

Is someone born and raised in a particular area not a native? What term would you use?

I see you really took offense. The term he used was root rock. And what I'm surprised at is that music that originated there is not the biggest thing. He told me that remakes of American music is the biggest thing there. It would be like Japanese pop remakes being the biggest thing in America. Very surprising!!!

Thanks for the recommendations though.

 

[engineroom]

Is someone born and raised in a particular area not a native? Pardon if I offended you.

The connotation is often pejorative

 

[Mr.Curlz]

No dancehall, please!

I was on vacation in Jamaica a while back and a native told me the music I like is called roots rock.

Do you consider yourself an American native? I don't think you are. The native American indians are natives. The Arawak and Taino indians are/were the Jamaican natives. Nobody else is. We don't live in coconut trees, we have cell phones and cd players, most of us don't know Bob Marley, we don't live in villages, all Jamaicans are not poor, all Jamaicans are not black, all Jamaicans don't smoke weed, we have cable t.v and computers. Just a little info for any body who didn't know.

P.S. I used to work with tourists and got these questions daily. It drove me nuts.

 

[spydakb]

Amen Mr. Curlz. Amen!!!

To answer the original question.....

Beres, Beres and more Beres Hammond. Instead of the industry looking for the next Bob Marley...this man is what is GREAT about music in JA.: Quality songwriting, superb productions and excellenct work ethic. Yonug and old, men and women can't get enough of his music.

- KB

 

[BOOMSHAK]

I think some people find it hard to believe that we as Jamaicans don't neccessarily listen to Bob Marley and Peter tosh every day. We do have other artists such as Beres, Freddy, Marcia Griffits and many more who are just making great music, and not only talking about justice and revolution and legalizing it, even though I do agree with that.

Part of the problem are some of these resorts. Me and the wifey decide to go to the All inclusive Grand Lido Resort in Negril this past weekend instead going to family as most of us yardies always do. What I noticed is that all they played is Bob Marley, nothing else, except for some old disco records. Marley instrumental, Marley remakes and the performers only sing Bob Marley until I shout out for them to sing some Beres or Marcia. Most tourist don't get a chance to hear anything else. That's part of the reason why some tourist think we only listen to Bob.

 

[Bezo]

The connotation is often pejorative

I guess for some. Like I said. Pardon if I offended you. I refer to myself as a Brooklyn native all the time. The same for other people from other cities, countries, ect.

 

[engineroom]

Is someone born and raised in a particular area not a native? What term would you use?

I see you really took offense. The term he used was root rock. And what I'm surprised at is that music that originated there is not the biggest thing. He told me that remakes of American music is the biggest thing there. It would be like Japanese pop remakes being the biggest thing in America. Very surprising!!!

Thanks for the recommendations though.

the biggest thing is dancehall.

dancehall originated there.

the music you are referring to is mostly from the 70s, it was popular then, but people have moved on.

 

[Bezo]

Re: Re: Put me on to some Reggae

Do you consider yourself an American native? I don't think you are. The native American indians are natives. The Arawak and Taino indians are/were the Jamaican natives. Nobody else is. We don't live in coconut trees, we have cell phones and cd players, most of us don't know Bob Marley, we don't live in villages, all Jamaicans are not poor, all Jamaicans are not black, all Jamaicans don't smoke weed, we have cable t.v and computers. Just a little info for any body who didn't know.

P.S. I used to work with tourists and got these questions daily. It drove me nuts.

My knowledge tells me that native means indigenous, inhabitant, local, resident...

Sure I'm an American native. I was born and raised here. Now I'm not an orginal American, but that's one meaning of many for the word.

What does native have to do with coconut trees, cell phones, and CD players, poverty, creed, weed, tv, computers, ect.?

And Bob has been dead for quite sometime. I doubt many Jamacians no him.

 

[Bezo]

Amen Mr. Curlz. Amen!!!

To answer the original question.....

Beres, Beres and more Beres Hammond. Instead of the industry looking for the next Bob Marley...this man is what is GREAT about music in JA.: Quality songwriting, superb productions and excellenct work ethic. Yonug and old, men and women can't get enough of his music.

- KB

Thank you.

 

[Bezo]

I think some people find it hard to believe that we as Jamaicans don't neccessarily listen to Bob Marley and Peter tosh every day. We do have other artists such as Beres, Freddy, Marcia Griffits and many more who are just making great music, and not only talking about justice and revolution and legalizing it, even though I do agree with that.

Part of the problem are some of these resorts. Me and the wifey decide to go to the All inclusive Grand Lido Resort in Negril this past weekend instead going to family as most of us yardies always do. What I noticed is that all they played is Bob Marley, nothing else, except for some old disco records. Marley instrumental, Marley remakes and the performers only sing Bob Marley until I shout out for them to sing some Beres or Marcia. Most tourist don't get a chance to hear anything else. That's part of the reason why some tourist think we only listen to Bob.

That's what I was looking for. Regae artist that I didn't know about. I can get Bob & Tosh any where.

My driver didn't play hardly any reggae or dancehall. 90% American covers.

 

[silkydark]

Try this site Audiomaxxx . I have bought from them once but I use it as a bit of a reference site. Check out the Roots & Culture section.

 

[praxis]

Check any or all the following.

1)Anything by Barry Brown. Super roots with original style....you may recognize the voice from many Tubby dub Albums.

2) Barrington Levy. Barrington is sick...Buy the albums "Teach me culture", "Poor Man Style" or "Too Experienced" which is a retrospective of his carrear. Stear clear of later stuff...

3) Gregory Issacs. Buy any Gregory recorded before 1983. Anything recorded after "My Number One" blows, but everything before is absolutley wicked.

4) The Crown Prince, Dennis Brown. Same as Gregory. Anything pre 85 or so is great. Also he was Marley's favorite singer.

5) Linval Thomson. Hard steppers sounds and a great producer.

6) Midnite. A New roots band that are absolutley amazing. Check them live if you can, and buy "Unpolished", Jubilees of Zion"

7)Don Carlos: Wicked style....buy "Time is the Master" for an introduction....many other great sides as well.

8) Anything pre mid -80's by the Gladiators, Heptones, Itals.

 

[Mr.Curlz]

Re: Re: Re: Put me on to some Reggae

My knowledge tells me that native means indigenous, inhabitant, local, resident...

Yeah, it might mean that. But if you went to Canada, I bet you wouldn't say that you met some Canadian natives.

What does native have to do with coconut trees, cell phones, and CD players, poverty, creed, weed, tv, computers, ect.?

Native has nothing to do with those things, but alot of people from developed countries like yours think that we in the caribbean are backward. I was just putting it out there because the "native" thing struck a nerve.

And Bob has been dead for quite sometime. I doubt many Jamacians no him.

Well tell that to your fellow natives and tell them not to ask it when they come here.

 

[zephral]

Yeah, it might mean that. But if you went to Canada, I bet you wouldn't say that you met some Canadian natives.

But you could. Any ways i'm not here to argue, someones beliefs should be told and not bagged on, because where I come from I try to be as free as possible.

Anyways don't forget to add some: Ziggy Marley into the mix


-James

 

[Bezo]

Praxis & Silkydark,

Thanks for the link and recommendations. The link looks like a good reference. Those artist are familiar names, just haven't listened to much of their stuff. I'm sure I've heard some Levy or Isaacs and didn't know who it was.

 

[Bezo]

Mr. Cruz,

I absolutely would call someone born and raised in Canada a native Canadian. I've used that term for many people from many countries. Because there are people that are considered Native Americans, I don't use that term for Americans, but I do use it for people from different cities/states.

Again, pardon if I offended you, but I haven't heard the word native used in a derogatory way. Not realy sure why you would take it that way.

You can tell them when they get there. I grew up in Flatbush, Brooklyn. There were more Jamaicans in my neighborhood than Americans. I don't know anyone that would ask something like that.

 

[DrEnigma]

I'm African amd I would be very offended if some tourist called me a native. the term is offensive 'cause back in the colonial dayz and dayz of slavery, that was the word they used like "native tribesmen", meaning uncivilized and backward. That is the kinda emotions it brings. It is like calling us negros on our own land, even though that may be a scientific term, alot of people would be offended by it. Also, the term "underdeveloped" which used to be used is offensive, that's why they now say developing countries.
I know u didn't mean to offend anyone, but when u do don't argue, just apologize.

 

[Mr. G]

I'm African amd I would be very offended if some tourist called me a native. the term is offensive 'cause back in the colonial dayz and dayz of slavery, that was the word they used like "native tribesmen", meaning uncivilized and backward. That is the kinda emotions it brings. It is like calling us negros on our own land, even though that may be a scientific term, alot of people would be offended by it. Also, the term "underdeveloped" which used to be used is offensive, that's why they now say developing countries.
I know u didn't mean to offend anyone, but when u do don't argue, just apologize.

so many things wrong with what you just said.

a) if you're born in africa, and you live in africa, you're a native african. i don't care how "offensive" you might interpret that as, but the case remains that any being that is living on the land they were born in is a native.

b) "native tribesmen" does NOT mean uncivilized and backward - it describes people who live in a tribal setting, and are native to the area. you can interpret it however you wish, but don't claim that the meaning is something it's not.

c) it is NOT like calling you "negros". the origin of that word is spanish, and means "black" - that's what you are, no? it's not scientific, either. the scientific word for black people would be "homo sapiens sapiens", just like the scientific word for white people, yellow people, or purple people. in the 60's and 70's, the term "negro"'s colloquial meaning changed, but it's true meaning never did.

get your head together.