limiter on vocals ?

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those anybody use a limiter on vocals and if so what are your settings ?
 
"limiter" is a wide ranged term. Hopefully we're all using some sort of dynamic processing on our vocals.

"Limiters" can be located in you input chain(preamps have "built in Limiters" especially high end ones). Compression with the right settings is pretty much "limiting", even "leveler" type plug ins are part of that "dynamics/limiter" family. So yes, most vocals have a "limiter" of some sort on them.
 
I think he's asking about hard limiting on vocals. i say don't do it. If you need to stop clipping on a track or bus lower the volume. If you need to get something louder, use a compressor and learn to set the output gain correctly. Many times I get projects where people apply a waves limiter on a track and slam it. Laziness if you ask me
 
Using a limiter on vocals works good for after you've compressed the vocals pretty well, but still have a few peaks you want to trim down. Matter of fact, I read an article recently that featured Christina Aguilera's mix engineer (forgot his name...), and he mentioned using the Waves limiter for that purpose. You could use a compressor with the right settings for the same purpose also. But JUST a limiter? Nah, probably not...
 
A limiter is a compressor. it's not until you get out of the realm of leveling and containing dynamics and into the realm of "loudness" that people use the classification "limiter" on a regular basis in 2010.

But majority of 'limiters" aren't even designed for the purpose we associate the name with. They're just "levelers" for lack of better wording that effect dynamics.

So unless you are using one on a master output to effect "loudness" of the overall track, it's more than likely not working any differently than any other "compressor'.
 
Probably at least half the time I will use some limiting as the last compressor on a lead rap vocal, and often for r&b too. Generally not a brick-wall type limiter, but rather just a compressor set up for limiting (ie. ratio of like 10:1, hard knee, stupid fast attack, release to taste but generally pretty fast).
 
Some software compressors have a limiter option, so you can set your normal compression settings, then enable the limiter just to control the peaks by adjusting the limiter threshold. It helps make everything a bit "tighter" if thats what you're looking for in the mix.
 
i use limiters on my snare and melodies. Works wonders. I am not a master though. I differentiate between compressors and limiters. Limiters tend to give the snare a little extra loudness to make it sit in the track. esp. transient shaping.
 
100% Facts.....

A limiter is a form of Compressor.

There are different types of limiters. But all limiters are compressors.

On individual tracks, unless you're doing something "experimental" you should be able to puh a limiter(assuming brickwall since we're talking 'loudness") any "harder" that you'r be able to push a simple channel compressor, so you're more than likely getting the same results.




Not facts, but Educated guess...

You are more than likely ruining your dynamics by using compression for "loudness" on an audio track. Using it to level/control volumes is one thing, but when you get into "loudness" of individual tracks, you more than likely have no clue of what you're doing.
 
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