Korg vs Roland

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Hi,

I'm considering buying a new multitrack recorder and am trying to decide between the Roland VS-2480CD and the Korg D32XD32. There's not a lot of difference in price but am wondering if anyone can offer any thoughts and preferences on either workstation? Also if anyone can recommend anything better than either of these two workstations, I'd be interested to hear about it...

Thanks
 
just curious...

why a multi track recorder instead of using a computer with recording software?? do you not have that option?
 
I would also consider building a computer and use recording software....I suppose the initial reason for considering a multitrack workstation is because I like the conveninece factor of having a purpose built system.

If I was to use a computer as a multitrack recorder, can you recommend what kind of spec I would require to get at least the same perfomance as, say, the Korg D32XD32? What would be the best software to use?
 
well to RECORD all you need is a program like sound forge.. but to do everything a multi-track can do you need more than one piece of software/equipment.. i guess thats one nice thing about a mult-track, it is pretty convenient.

the biggest problem with multi-trackers, aside from the retarded pricing that is, is the limit in channels they can record.. the one youre talking about is a very respectable unit... but.... the price is outrageous.. 3 grand? you could build a great compture for 1200, buy a mackie vlz 1604 mixer *probably the best analog mixer ever made*, buy sound forge and a sequencer like sonar 3 all for the same price you could get that multi tracker. and im not talking about second hand ebay prices.. all brand new from a vendor like musicians friend.

if you ask me thats a no-brainer. you have so many more options with the computer based system than with the multi-tracker. but i mean its up to you.
 
Get cubase,a control surface,some vsti'sa midi controller nd you will be straight.


IF you want a production software,get fruity loops or reason.
 
The computer is the workstation to use for multitrack recording. I use logic 4.7 and it gets the job done. Those portable digital recorder are to linear for my taste. I use the Roland Studio Pack and I only paid $300 bucks for mine plus I built a computer for $500. Now, I got a DAW that can do a unlimited number of things compared to any of those linear puppys. Money was a big issue for me deciding on what to use for recording.
 
Thanks for your replies....I'm definitely considering building a PC for use as my next multitrack recorder. The dilema I'm faced with is choosing the best components I can get for my money. Taking the cost of a purpose built multitrack machine such as the new Korg 32 track as my budget, can I build something which will do a noticeably better job for recording purposes? In this thread there are at least three different software recommendations - for someone who has never worked with any of them, what is the best for multitrack recording?

What's the best audio interface to get (budget around $500) - I don't want latency to be a problem?

What's the best controller to get?

Also, how many tracks will I be able to record with a computer - or is that down to spec of machine and software?

Forgive the long-winded message...I just want to do my research before buying all the different bits and pieces for my new multitrack...
 
Nothing wrong with going with a dedicated hardware multi-tracker as opposed to a computer setup. I track on a computer via a MOTU 2408 MKII with Cubase SX as my program of choice and I find it pretty pleasant to work with.

The thing about stand-alone gear is that it is easier to operate. Getting a computer setup you will have to learn how to use the software, the hardware audio interface, the mixer, and then everything together. So it takes a bit more work but you do end up with more flexibility.

I haven't tried any of the hardware multi-trackers that you mentioned so I really can't make any recomendation. The Roland has been getting a lot of mention lately but other than that, I couldn't say.

It's good to consider computer recording but some of the posts on this thread are only mentioning half of it if even half at all. Eternal Youth makes some good points regarding the price point but it's good to take everything else into account.
 
When you say the 2480 is way better, is this in comparison to the Korg 32 track, a PC recording system or both?

Also - in what way is the 2480 better?

Thanks!
 
I'm Currently using the Same as Sleepy, a MOTU 2408MK3 into my Custom Built Workstation
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I also have a Yamaha AW4416 Multitrack.
Why?
Because I prefer to use alot of outboard gear also for a few reasons
-Less strain on the Workstation
-More Hands on approach (knobs, Faders etc.)
-More Versatility for Sounds

That said, there is absolutely Nothing wrong with having your Workstation do all the Work.

IOW, There is No "Right Way". Build your Studio to your preference.
There's alot of good advice/Ideas but ultimately you have to go with what your comfortable with.

G/L ;)
 
Am I right in thinking that the number of tracks you can record with Sonar or Cubase is limited only by how much your computer can handle? I'd like 24 tracks as a minimum but having the luxury of being able to add as many as I like on top of that would be great.

Also, for around $600 what is the best audio interface to get? I'm looking for something which with at least a couple of inputs for mic and guitar so I can get by without a mixer (until I can afford to buy one).

All your advice is greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
 
rico2004 said:
Am I right in thinking that the number of tracks you can record with Sonar or Cubase is limited only by how much your computer can handle?
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Yes. But don't forget VST's automation also use processing so # of tracks isn't the only thing the Cpu has to calculate

I'd like 24 tracks as a minimum but having the luxury of being able to add as many as I like on top of that would be great.
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All I can say is RAM and More Ram! Like I said before it isn't only the # of tracks. I recommend at least 1GB.


Also, for around $600 what is the best audio interface to get? I'm looking for something which with at least a couple of inputs for mic and guitar so I can get by without a mixer (until I can afford to buy one).
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This is more of of a Preference than getting a right answer.You already answered part of your Question (I/O)
Now do a little research on who can give you that for $600. Look at M-Audio, Echoaudio. A couple of hundred more gets you into MOTU, RME and a few other more expensive alternatives.
One thing I can say is STAY AWAY FROM USB interfaces! Go PCI card and save yourself alot of headaches.
Also, I wouldn't recommend soundblaster, too many problems trying to make it "Sound Good"
You may be able to get away with a TurtleBeach but I wouldn't do that either.I'd only do those 2 if I had $200 to spend.

All your advice is greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
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No Prob, again remember this is My Opinion ,Some may disagree. But 1 thing is Certain. DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!
Also, After building your workstation you MUST tweak it to make it a Music Workstation. Until then..GL

;)
 
^^ Exactly.

Both options are possible, but really if ur set into buying a multitracker, then get one.

If someone has no experiences with a certain piece of kit or way of working they will always recommend a different solution obviously.

I myself use my computer to record, whilst my drummer has a mulitrack, so I guess we have the best of both worlds.

The immediate use, stability and portability of mulitrackers make them unique from a computer based system- so definately try recording and mixing with a computer before u head that direction, just to see if u can work that way.
 
eternalYouth said:
well to RECORD all you need is a program like sound forge.. but to do everything a multi-track can do you need more than one piece of software/equipment.. i guess thats one nice thing about a mult-track, it is pretty convenient.

the biggest problem with multi-trackers, aside from the retarded pricing that is, is the limit in channels they can record.. the one youre talking about is a very respectable unit... but.... the price is outrageous.. 3 grand? you could build a great compture for 1200, buy a mackie vlz 1604 mixer *probably the best analog mixer ever made*, buy sound forge and a sequencer like sonar 3 all for the same price you could get that multi tracker. and im not talking about second hand ebay prices.. all brand new from a vendor like musicians friend.

if you ask me thats a no-brainer. you have so many more options with the computer based system than with the multi-
Buying the muittrack roland or korg{ I think both r close to $3000} wouldn't be no different from buying a computer...you still can use the same plugins like a pc an if anyone tell u different then there probably a beginner....mines is computer based but either way you'll get the same results....if you do go the multitrack route I would consider{personally}to get a digital mixer along with it like a tascam dm24 so you can mix your tracks on tha mixer an use the multitrack channels to have the sounds on it that way you can mix on the dm24 an then adat the mix back into the multitrack for a 2track master...p.s. This is not a hobbiest talking
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