I am the only one that notices this?

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Some of these hip hop songs seems to be seriously coppying reggae without giving credit.

that black eyed peas song called Hey mamma or what ever it is called. that beats borrows so much from the diwali riddim.

and that Cassidy and R kelly song, Hotel sounds just like the suprise riddim

Cant thik of anymore right now but I have heard some more
 
Dude, Sean Paul's label wants to market him as a hip hop artist to confuse people more. I don't think he'll go for it though. All dancehall producers need to make as many people aware that dancehall is seperate and apart from hip hop or we'll lose our identity.

More dancehall artists need to have videos in rotation on MTV and BET and I think the Jamaican government should be contributing to the development of the industry by sponsoring videos since not many local labels can afford $100,000 plus videos.
 
This is nothing new. I sure you all know that "Reggae" is "Hip-Hop's" underated father.
 
articledon said:

and that Cassidy and R kelly song, Hotel sounds just like the suprise riddim

I noticed quite a few of R Kellys songs use dancehall type patterns
 
vaboi said:

I noticed quite a few of R Kellys songs use dancehall type patterns

Count how many DH riddims didnt sample but straigh use R Kellys beats. That allways botha me. Either them get clearance from RK or Kelly dont petty dem.

1.Fiesta
2.Snake
etc.
 
jamaicas intellectual property laws are very strange, maybe because of michael manleys flirtations with socialism back in the 70's. or, maybe my knowledge of them is out of date.. someone here can surely correct me if so.

but just looking at the willingness of artists to share riddims there paints a vastly different picture than the american hiphop creative scene, where NOTHING is shared without money exchanging hands and lawyers getting paid.

which probably explains why hiphop has been corny garbage since the late 90's.
 
The artists can't just share the riddim like that. The producer gets all the artists that he wants on his riddim and records them. All the artists that you hear on any one riddim are there because they were requested. You might have a few songs in circulation on the same riddim by other artists who got the riddim from the 45 and voiced on it and issued it themselves just to get some recognition. If they try to sell it in the mainstream, they'll get sued.
 
many thanks for the info, obviously i was way off the ball on this one.

ive seen many examples of multiple labels offering 7"'s from different artists on the same riddim (baba boom, death in the arena, etc). how does that come to pass? do producers license their riddim to other labels on occasion?
 
Riddims like 'punanny' have been reissued by several labels through licensing from the original owners.
 
Sharing beats in Reggae has been done for so may years! This is a DJ based music flow and always has been, what with sound systems and all.
Peace
 
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