how do you make your kick THUMP?>?>>?

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anyone know of a good trick to make your kick kick the **** out of u?

so far Ive made it to sound fuller but when I listen to it from far it loses its fullness and it has some sort of frequency(high frequency) when you listen to it far away.
 
bad kick

some programs alow you to put a boost on the bass
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thats what i doo but what are you using and
what kind of music do you record ?
and what kind of gear do you currently use that gives
you that problem ?


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Yes, try some different kick samples... and then play with EQ (for a thump try to boost higher frequencies (about 1kHz) to get more attention to the head of the kick) and a compressor (try to use attack about 30ms ore even more, short release times and play around with ratio and treshold).
Otherwise you could experiment with the kick sample in a wave-editor (like Soundforge) and shape it to your needs/add FX (a nice effect can be achieved by pitch bending the head of the kick from high to normal, again experiment...)
gtx, GeN
 
SHYDA;
It may be your kick sound, or it may be your monitors. Many small speakers can't deal with frequencies below 200 hz well. Do some sine wave tests and see. Also, if you wanna dig into the science of creating kick drums and other sounds check - www.studiocovers.com

Peace and good luck.
 
Like he said use a bass boost in the effects settings or something related..you can have a sorry azz kick and still make it thump
 
I can't believe no-one has mentioned this yet....

COMPRESSOR

Basically you need to slap a compressor onto the kick sound that has really vicious settings - high ratio and fairly low threshold and then big make-up gain. Then stick the output through a bass enhancer. The compressor makes the kicks dynamics change so that it has a really powerful THUMP to it and the enhancer works differently to an EQ by generating harmonic bass frequencies to those present so that the bass appears louder while its level actually is not.

Give it a whirl. Instant kick drum mayhem ye will find!
 
just get something that's close to, then play with the EQ and ****...............P.E.A.C.E.............:) :cheers: :victory:
 
Compressor + Parametric EQ applied correctly = Unbeleiveable Thump!

Also - try using multiple kick sounds. I have a really dull-sounding (but ever so thumpy) smaple from an old analog drum machine that I like to layer with my kicks - it provides the "thump" while the other "main" sound provides the warmth or whatever. Sometimes I'll layer it with bass sounds also to give the bass part a litte bit o' UHH!!
 
This question has been asked many times on this forum and is a practice ive been interested in perfecting, so ill try 2 compress past posts ive read into this one. Whot a bloody nice bloke i am.

First off, the type of sample your using has a huge role in providing phattness and making the kick really KICK. The 909 drum machine by roland has legendary kick synthesis and has been used for many years by top hip hop,DnB and house producers. You dont have to have one of these machines however, cause it has been sampled so many times and the internet is crawling with 909 samples. Also most software drum synths have 909 emulators. Personally i have Waldorf Attack which produces some good 909 kick waveforms which can be tweaked to perfection.

If the 909 sample sounds too round and bland for your tastes, a live kick sample can be pasted over the top of your sample with its bottom end rounded off to give the kick more expression.
But theres no beating the 909 for bottom end boom.

EQ can play a important part, (as it can with any sound). If the sample lacks bottom end a boost of around 6db at 80-100Hz will sort it out.

To get that thwack, boost (sparingly) at 300Hz, or you could use extreme compression with a slow attack.

Another trick is to mix the kick with a very short delay of around 3 milliseconds to produce a sort of comb filter effect, this can work well, again if used in moderation.

I try not to use too much compression on my single samples, but try to get them as close to the desired sound by using the correct samples EQ and FX. If my kick is close to perfect i use compression with an attack of 20 ms, to let the initial transient through before the compressor kicks in, i use a ratio of 5:1 and only 10db of gain reduction. This setting reduces the dynamics just enough to tighten everytin up.

A good tube distortion effect can also add life to all frequencys of your sample, as it boosts the harmonics of every fundamental frequency. Again use very sparingly.

Last word of advice. Many people (myself included) spend so much time trying to get their kick to really pound that they neglect the top end of the freq spectrum. Monitoring your mixes at a low level can ensure the kick cuts through, if it dont boost at 2-8kHz.

Good luck with your quest to find the perfect kick, im off to soak my blistered fingers in hot water.!
PEACE
 
I want to upload it so u guys know what im trying to accomplish. Are there any free streaming sites???
 
Just register at soundclick and upload your files as MP3s.
 
SHYDA:

Sounds like you have a lot of reverb on your kick, or maybe the original sample had a lot of reverb on it?

Also ... the actual level of the kick seems awfully low ... is that the loudest it can get?

1 more thing ... are you sure that you are using a kick sound? It sounds maybe like a Tom or Conga tuned waaaay down.
 
There are a few old tricks to beef up a sampled kick. My favourite is to lay a short sine bass wave under it, or another kick that complements it. You could also have the kick trigger a bass line through a noise gate side-chain.

I always prefer to add a new element that a sound is missing instead of boosting its eq. If the sample is lacking something in the spectrum in a first place, eq can perhaps add a little bit of something but very surely some nasty artefacts. That's like an underexposed photo that gets grainy when processed and enhanced. It's probably a matter of taste, if one likes it gritty...

The sampled kicks that are floating around on the www and on CD are usually already heavily compressed and eq-ed. From my experience, if a sample doesn't fit into your track as is (eq flat) it most likely never will even with heavy twiddling in DSP.

The way most people I know work when hunting for the perfect sound -- make a ruff pre-mix with ALL tracks (eq flat), let the tune run and step through the different kick samples until you find the one that fits best in the mix. If it's still lacking the thump, add another one. It's amazing sometimes how samples that you would never think of using when hearing them solo are exactly what you need in the mix.

I use eq and compression only as a last resort on tracks that are a crucial part of the tune and that can't be easily replaced. IMHO, finding good sounds up front is better than patching dodgy ones with DSP.

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You could always try and double it up so there are two kicks at the same time. That will fatten up your sound loads.

Cheers,
Filo
 
yeah, I do that alot. It's also nice to have a subass every 2 bars or so.
 
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