hip-hop r&b clap samples???

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I've noticed a popularity with using clap samples instead of snares in a lot of commercial hip-hop lately, e.g., neptunes production, busta rhymes - i know what you want, etc.

I'm wondering where do these producers get these really snappy clap samples? Most of the ones I have are really dry sounding drummachine claps, and doesn't compare to these clap samples that sound much more realistic.

are they from sample cd's, modules, sampled tracks?
 
Well from all three. I know the claps you are talking about owning, and the claps from the neptunes, or even dre and such. The claps you have are probably synthetic 808, 909, such claps from a keyboards replication. The claps you want, a good portion of them, you can get from R&B sample cd's. I have "OFF THE HOOK 1&2" from Big fish, and it has ALOT of excellent quality snaps (fingers), and claps (hands). If you have leave an email Ill send u a couple.

2. The recording of drums (especially with neptunes) is with samples, and live drums. Neptune tracks, with the sound youre talking about have a sampled snare, a sampled snap... and they also have a real life snap played, and recorded live at the same time,on top of the samples. That gives it a live feel. If you listen to those neptune tracks, you can tell that the down beat of the snares sound different everytime....This is done with the live feel of snaps on top of the sampled drums.


whereas if you quantized only samples, you would get a mechanical feel like when you heard producers who first start developing their skills.


Another track from Neptunes with the CLIPSE, "GRINDIN" used all the drums from the Trinity rack. Ive even heard a couple new R&B tracks that are using the old Trinity Rack drum sets. You have to also keep in mind, producers like the neptunes, dre, and such also have alot of outboard gear for their music. Its not like they just patch an mpc through the mixer and record it live. All the sounds are compressed (which has a HUGE effect) on drum sounds, eq'd, gated....everything. So, you have to realize you wont get the "same exact" sound as the neptunes or such...


Compression isHUGE to producing
 
Hey Bigmoz,

Thanks for your reply, it was very helpful.

I'm interested in this OFF THE HOOK sample cd. If you can email me a few samples for me to check out that would be great.

Email me at
alan.lam@sympatico.ca

Cheers.
 
clap samples

I've found that you get the best sound by using different types of claps (I nicked mine from Hip Hop Ejay 2 beats/samples) and layer them up in your sequencer. If you offset them from each other you get that ever-so-slightly-delayed sound (e.g. Busta "Make it Clap").

I noticed that on "make it clap" he uses the layered clap sound on every second "snare" hit and he pitches it down as well so you get a "bing-bong" effect.

My advice is experiment.

LEO
 
Stranjah makes a good point. What happens, is that they layer them on top of each other, and shift one of them (time wise) a little before the down beat, or a little after...

But the song, Make it clap, is real claps on top of samples.... its not just shifted samples. That song is making me sick of all the clap sounds now.
 
You might not have noticed but most of those claps are layered with a snare.You'll find if you filter some of you "generic" claps and layer them with a "matching" snare you can achieve a phat "clap" sound.
If you record vocals then record some claps yourself in the mic.
Filter them out...play with the pitch, then see how they sound with a rythm/sample over them and not just by theirselves.

If all else fails try to get a clean "clap" from your favorite producers track...hey they just get them from old 60/70's records anyway!!!
 
Bustah Rhymes' "Make it clap" actually has quite a long clap loop at the end of it.
 
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